The Revolution Will Not Be Televised (U.S Protests)

[JebusLives]

I've just claimed they're either lazy or misusing their effort and resources.

And what do you call this, exactly?

[jackstraw94086]

I call it exactly I just said. Do those words look unfamiliar to you?

There's an attempt at cleverness here. Get on with it.

[faxman75]

http://current.com/shows/countdown/v...py-wall-street

[jackstraw94086]

That is the most batshit crazy bullshit so far.

Here are some of the things that statement indicts "corporations" for

take houses illegally despite not having the original mortgage. (really?)
agism and racism in the workplace
poisoned the food supply through neglegence
profit off torturing animals
hold students "hostage" with tens of thousands of dollars (which is unjust because education is a "human right")?
used the military to enslave people
decline to recall faulty products
intentionally hide inactive ingredients
perpetuate "colonialism" at home and abroad
torture innocent civilians overseas



They're seriously trying to tie this up into one evil theme: "Corporations".
I thought this was about the bankers. This is an indictment of pretty much every industry there is. Are you fucking kidding me?

This statement makes them seem more childish than ever. People (yes "people", this evil shit didn't flash into being with the legal definition of "corporation") have been doing this shit since time immemorial. The difference is now there's an internet to brag in front of. These people should pick one cause and attack it until their satisfied and then pick another. The fucking gaul this idiots have to just assume that they can bring down the whole of society and start from scratch.

Because they can't find a high paying job.
Don't they know they're going to have to explain the gaps in their resume?

These aren't the 99%. If you backed up to a global scale they'd be right back in that 1%.

[concertgoer]

I suppose bitching on the Internet would be a much better use of their time

[JebusLives]

Many journalists, it seems, pay lip service to the First Amendment, but turn their backs or grow disdainful when people actually exercise these rights in the streets. In such a climate, idealistic activists such as those at the tar sands pipeline and Wall Street protests, obviously, can be safely ignored by the major news media or condescended to as not being rooted in the practical, real world. Real grown-ups don’t need to protest.

http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/index....groundid=00580

[jackstraw94086]

I suppose bitching on the Internet would be a much better use of their time

I'm not claiming to have their lofty impossible goals.

What are you doing to aid the cause? seriously.



I'll tell you one thing. If these morons aren't careful they'll wind up putting a republican in the white house.

Or more likely the tantrum will be forgotten as these kids get on with the process of living life and eventually hopefully learn how to pick fights that can be won.


This is perfect timing with the new season of South Park though. Hopefully they'll be on next week's episode. Definitely the one after if not.

[PotVsKtl]

take houses illegally despite not having the original mortgage. (really?)

Yes. This is true. You might want to learn more about the topic before beating it like a dick in a windsock.

[Wheres the beef?]

Yes. This is true. You might want to learn more about the topic before beating it like a dick in a windsock.

Indeed. Matt Taibbi wrote a really great article about it a couple months back. The whole process is crooked to the core.

[jackstraw94086]

Yes. This is true. You might want to learn more about the topic before beating it like a dick in a windsock.

You have no idea what I know about foreclosure. Would you like to quote why you believe it is strictly illegal. Or would you like to remove your dick now?


there's a difference between "crooked" and illegal.

Don't we all wish shit that wasn't fair was illegal.

[TomAz]

It comes across as very French revolution and is just fuel for the fire.

The difference being, the French revolution actually changed things.

[JebusLives]

The difference being, the french revolution is over.

[faxman75]

They're seriously trying to tie this up into one evil theme: "Corporations".
I thought this was about the bankers. This is an indictment of pretty much every industry there is. Are you fucking kidding me?

This statement makes them seem more childish than ever. People (yes "people", this evil shit didn't flash into being with the legal definition of "corporation") have been doing this shit since time immemorial. The difference is now there's an internet to brag in front of. These people should pick one cause and attack it until their satisfied and then pick another. The fucking gaul this idiots have to just assume that they can bring down the whole of society and start from scratch.

Because they can't find a high paying job.
Don't they know they're going to have to explain the gaps in their resume?

These aren't the 99%. If you backed up to a global scale they'd be right back in that 1%.

After listening to and reading the demands. This movement should simplify itself and be called the Fight Club revolution.

I thought this old piece from 1999 Seattle WTO protests was interesting because of the similarities.

http://www.mail-archive.com/nativene.../msg05293.html

[TomAz]

The difference being, the french revolution is over.

[faxman75]

You have no idea what I know about foreclosure. Would you like to quote why you believe it is strictly illegal. Or would you like to remove your dick now?


there's a difference between "crooked" and illegal.

Don't we all wish shit that wasn't fair was illegal.

Yes, illegal. Not just unfair.

"In general, the examinations found critical deficiencies and shortcomings in foreclosure governance processes, foreclosure document preparation processes, and oversight and monitoring of third party law firms and vendors. These deficiencies have resulted in violations of state and local foreclosure laws, regulations, or rules and have had an adverse affect on the functioning of the mortgage markets and the U.S. economy as a whole."

http://www.creditslips.org/creditsli...iciencies.html

[JebusLives]

crackpipe

Ha! Obviously, the French revolution analogy only goes as far as the ruling class making the situation worse for themselves by taunting the commoners.

[jackstraw94086]

On a large enough scale you can find oversights and mistakes in any situation.
There were laws that were violated, but there were laws. You're not going to get people to stop breaking laws by protesting.

The childish rant woudl have you believe that this problem is systemic and ubiquitous, but what we're talkign about is violation of laws that were supposed to be there to prevent such things.

Some of these laws could probably be shored up, larger penalties for violating them, sure. Campaign for that. write your congressman about that.

Or stand on the street and scream about that and pet torture and WMDs. See which one gets more traction.

[JebusLives]

Or play devil's advocate / contrarian brat on a music forum. See how well that works!

We're having "inspired-by" protests here as well starting this weekend. I'm going to attend - the protests are right in front the building i'm working in right now.

[lunatic core]

The holding students hostage thing would work better if they were (and they possibly are) specifically talking about these schools that are basically scams like the Art Institute that use the government and the laws protecting schools to trap unsuspected kids into paying for useless classes and degrees.

[nationocean]

jackstraw must be a hoot at parties... if he's invited to any.

[J~$$$$]

The holding students hostage thing would work better if they were (and they possibly are) specifically talking about these schools that are basically scams like the Art Institute that use the government and the laws protecting schools to trap unsuspected kids into paying for useless classes and degrees.

Its only a scam to those that are incompetent or unwilling to start at the bottom. Just because you have degree does not mean you are worth more than minimum wage.

My wife graduated from AI and is pulling in 65+ a year.

[TomAz]

[jackstraw94086]

Or play devil's advocate / contrarian brat on a music forum. See how well that works!

We're having "inspired-by" protests here as well starting this weekend. I'm going to attend - the protests are right in front the building i'm working in right now.

again, genius, your taunt only works if I were the one claiming to have these insane and infeasible goals myslef. I don't. I have a few things I care strongly about and I put effort into those, and luckily they afford me some time at work to amuse myself with your head.

[jackstraw94086]

jackstraw must be a hoot at parties... if he's invited to any.

if you only knew. I'll hoot you all night long, sister.

[nathanfairchild]

Its only a scam to those that are incompetent or unwilling to start at the bottom. Just because you have degree does not mean you are worth more than minimum wage.

this is more indicative of the current generation. they don't want to have to work for anything. they think that if they finish college they're entitled to a $100K+ job.

[JebusLives]

again, genius, your taunt only works if I were the one claiming to have these insane and infeasible goals myslef. I don't.

Once again, I yield against your impenetrable wall of apathy. Or is it a vortex? Vortex of apathy.

this is more indicative of the current generation. they don't want to have to work for anything.

That's just not true at all. A generation ago, a Bachelor's degree was a ticket to middle-class comfort. Now it's the minimum employable standard and graduates are sorta cheesed. How old are you? This sounds very "get off my lawn".

[jackstraw94086]

Its only a scam to those that are incompetent or unwilling to start at the bottom. Just because you have degree does not mean you are worth more than minimum wage.

My wife graduated from AI and is pulling in 65+ a year.

your wife's gonna take us both out for steaks and milkshakes.

[jackstraw94086]

I yield against your impenetrable wall of apathy.

so not throwing a tantrum and demanding a complete and instant end to greed and consumerism = apathy.

got it.

[lunatic core]

Its only a scam to those that are incompetent or unwilling to start at the bottom. Just because you have degree does not mean you are worth more than minimum wage.

My wife graduated from AI and is pulling in 65+ a year.

Your mostly unrealated acedotal evidence has nothing to do with the level of bullshit these schools are putting students through tethering them with massive debt that follows them for years. They only get to do this thanks to how student loans and bankruptcy is handled here giving them all the protection from the students. The prices soar and students have problems getting loans down the line and don't always get to finish. The credits don't transfer to other schools. The students aren't protected from anything.

These schools have only incentive to sign up as many people as they can and then let the system get them the money. Doesn't matter if the students have success or even if they can graduate. They are all slaves now.

[J~$$$$]

I yield against your impenetrable wall of apathy.



That's just not true at all. A generation ago, a Bachelor's degree was a ticket to middle-class comfort. Now it's the minimum employable standard. How old are you? This sounds very "get off my lawn".

Unfortunately there is no more buying your way into middle class. Hard work, know someone in your industry, innovate or GTFO.