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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw94086 View Post
    That you could draw that analogy is astounding.

    Does it completely escape you how the tactics of the tea party and these kids differ? What the fuck have we been saying here?
    You're almost militantly apathetic. It's an interesting paradox.
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    and you didn't even stop to think about my response to you.

    you're recklessly simplistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starraven View Post
    grass. roots.




    Yeah those kids down there need to tie some sort of symbol to their hats and carry more signs with the image of hitler on them =/
    Jesus how does that analogy make any sense to you at all? Was the extent of that effor to just pick up an internet pic and then call it quits? Did you put one ounce of thought into what makes these kids and the tea party DIFFERENT? even after I spelled it out for you?

    Where do the tea party folks gather except for in planned rallies in their own back yard? Where does the tea party derive its power?

    From campaigning in front of like minded folks who then elect leaders to represent them in congress.

    You don't see the tea party doing something as pointless and foolish as camping out on wall st.

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    I think i spelled it out for you too grass roots
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starraven View Post
    I think i spelled it out for you too grass roots
    what the fuck is "grass roots" about camping out on wall st? Do you know what that term means?


    and btw you pulled out hitler for no reason. By laws of internet you've got nothing interesting to add.

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    Fair points are being made here, Jack. Both tea-partiers and occupy wall streeters emit carbon dioxide; and while I don't have the actual figures in front of me, a fair majority of both groups have fingernails.

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    you guys need to unclench

    meaning that a movement has to start somewhere... i'm sorry you're a little slow jack i'll try harder
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    Quote Originally Posted by guedita View Post
    Fair points are being made here, Jack. Both tea-partiers and occupy wall streeters emit carbon dioxide; and while I don't have the actual figures in front of me, a fair majority of both groups have fingernails.
    I see the good ole divide and conquer method is still alive and kicking!

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    Both groups consist largely of poorly informed individuals with no real concrete or uniform message. The Tea Partiers want to "take back america" (from black people, or something). These guys want to "stop the greedy banksters" or whatever.

    But opportunistic politicians jumped on the tea party as a way to get elected, and that in itself made them a force for change. I'm hoping this can be something loosely similar, because right now nobody in government is catering to these guys.
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    I like what Cornel West had to say about the lack of cohesion or unified message of the Occupy Wall Street protesters.

    "It’s impossible to translate the issue of the greed of Wall Street into one demand, or two demands... You’re talking about raising political consciousness so it spills over all parts of the country, so people can begin to see what’s going on through a set of different lens, and then you begin to highlight what the more detailed demands would be. Because in the end we’re really talking about what Martin King would call a revolution: A transfer of power from oligarchs to everyday people of all colors. And that is a step by step process."

    Makes sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JebusLives View Post
    Both groups consist largely of poorly informed individuals with no real concrete or uniform message. The Tea Partiers want to "take back america" (from black people, or something). These guys want to "stop the greedy banksters" or whatever.

    But opportunistic politicians jumped on the tea party as a way to get elected, and that in itself made them a force for change. I'm hoping this can be something loosely similar, because right now nobody in government is catering to these guys.
    Nader or Kucinich will.
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    Bernie Sanders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guedita View Post
    Bernie Sanders.
    This is dudes platform. He needs to get his old ass out there.

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    Can we get an independent presidential candidate out of this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JebusLives View Post
    But opportunistic politicians jumped on the tea party as a way to get elected, and that in itself made them a force for change. I'm hoping this can be something loosely similar, because right now nobody in government is catering to these guys.
    It's hard to see the impetus to cater to these guys, in terms of new, fresh opportunistic politicians. There was money to be made as a tea-party candidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JebusLives View Post
    Both groups consist largely of poorly informed individuals with no real concrete or uniform message. The Tea Partiers want to "take back america" (from black people, or something). These guys want to "stop the greedy banksters" or whatever.

    But opportunistic politicians jumped on the tea party as a way to get elected, and that in itself made them a force for change. I'm hoping this can be something loosely similar, because right now nobody in government is catering to these guys.
    Your hatred of the tea party it seems has clouded your better judgement. I'm not sure you know much about them. They're not really about taking america back from "black people". They're more or less just about maintaining status quo. Also, they have a very clear and articulate agenda, mainly aimed at stopping social programs, it's just that it's often exaggerated and hypocritical.

    The reason politicians have been able to exploit them is because they were good at organizing themselves into a voting block.

    These wall st kids are just rabble compared to the tea party movement.

    Please stop with these absurd comparisons.

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    Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

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    Cause it's like. The Tea Party people were organized and funded and bussed around the country for free. Remember?

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    Cause it's like. They're just normal Republicans? Remember?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw94086 View Post
    They're not really about taking america back from "black people". They're more or less just about maintaining status quo.
    Are you seriously arguing that the tea party has a single coherent message vs the wall street folks?



    Politicians with slick spinsters have since created a message from the noise, but it started out as angry white people shouting at stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rage patton View Post
    I like what Cornel West had to say about the lack of cohesion or unified message of the Occupy Wall Street protesters.

    "It’s impossible to translate the issue of the greed of Wall Street into one demand, or two demands... You’re talking about raising political consciousness so it spills over all parts of the country, so people can begin to see what’s going on through a set of different lens, and then you begin to highlight what the more detailed demands would be. Because in the end we’re really talking about what Martin King would call a revolution: A transfer of power from oligarchs to everyday people of all colors. And that is a step by step process."

    Makes sense to me.
    Makes no sense to me. Wall St. greed isn't news to anyone.

    If Cornel West were a boxing trainer, he might coach his fighter to throw blind haymakers at the champ until the crowd accepts that he might be able to beat him. And only then he should throw some aimed punches. Oh yeah and also mention MLK.


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    Jack, it sounds like you are forgetting about the beginning of the tea party. They were just as disorganized and without a clear agenda as Occupy Wall Street when they began.

    Also, dont forget about the birthers. I think you are giving the tea party far too much credit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JebusLives View Post
    Are you seriously arguing that the tea party has a single coherent message vs the wall street folks?



    Politicians with slick spinsters have since created a message from the noise, but it started out as angry white people shouting at stuff.
    fantastic. Pick an edited video full of cherry picked soundbytes.
    You realize you're the caricature they complain about on their end, right?

    Instead of fishing for dumb quotes from the crowd, why don't you listen to their elected reps like Rand Paul and see if he can articulate what they want.

    Now lets see who the occupy wall st. kids have representing them. oh wait...


    Seriously cut this out.

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    The tea party was not a grass roots movement, and it didn't coalesce into anything other than traditional Republican values. You're all fucking stupid.

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    "Their elected representatives" are Republicans. That's it.

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    I think we need a time machine in here. No one seems to remember what actually went down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rage patton View Post
    Jack, it sounds like you are forgetting about the beginning of the tea party. They were just as disorganized and without a clear agenda as Occupy Wall Street when they began.

    Also, dont forget about the birthers. I think you are giving the tea party far too much credit.
    First of all, I'm not the one who brought tea party bullshit into this, they have no place in this.

    Show me the beginnings of the tea party that were anything like these kids randomly flash mobbing wall st.

    seriously.

    The birthers are a simple amusement. They are if anything an argument AGAINST a comparison between them and the wall st kids because they were able to take an absurd (IMO) triviality and make use their influence to get it to the furthest reaches of goverment and make even the white house take notice.

    These kids actually have something substantial (in theory) to complain about and they can't seem to put it into a sentence.






    Or how about people just STFU with these idiotic comparisons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw94086 View Post
    the furthest reaches of goverment
    Donald Trump.

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    Jack, i'm fully aware that that is cherry-picked sound bites from a small group of clueless protestors. That's sort of my entire point. There were no Tea Party Republican congresspeople at the time, so don't invoke Rand Paul on me.
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