College Football 2011

[bobert]

Notre Dame stays independent because they have the largest fan-base in the country and the most lucrative tv contract on television. Until that changes, there's very little reason for them to change their status.

[biggfoot17]

Speaking of, in a discussion I was having with somebody else regarding the super conferences and all that, this could make a playoff system viable.

4 Super Conferences
Conference Championship Games 1st weekend of December
4 Team Playoff the weekend after Conference Championship Games
Normal Bowl Season
2 Playoff Winners Meet in Final Bowl Game of the Season for Championship

This pretty much makes all other conferences obsolete. Might as well downgrade them all to the FCS

[suprefan]

Theyre all turning into greedy ass mofos anyway, how else would they make sure they had a stranglehold on almost all the tv revenue?


A plus one would still be the best bet. After the bowl season ends, whoever is #1 and #2 go at it...

[JustSteve]

Have you seen the Oregon unis?







Fucking rad.

all black e'rything

[fikus222]

UW isn't going to do as good this year as they did last year, though they won't lose every game like they did '08-'09.

Likewise, Stanford is going to kick some Pac-12 butt, though they won't get as many wins as last year...Owen Marecic was a BEAST.

[Miroir Noir]

A few thoughts on BYU and ND, two programs/universities that I am pretty familiar with.

BYU is going to take the Big 12 thing very, very seriously. Their move to independence, as suggested above, was very much driven by the U's move to the PAC-12. But, and in answer to Supre's question, there were also some tremendous financial incentives for them to go indie: they already have a national cable network in place that's ran by the LDS Church, ESPN agreed to a long-term contract with them (that included promises to help with scheduling). The move to indie was made less for its own sake -- I don't think they ever really believed they were going to be the ND of the West or whatever -- and more out a recognition that it was a much superior strategy than hanging out with Boise St and the remnants of the MWC. When ESPN came on board, it sealed the deal for them because it gave the program (and its recruiting) more exposure and revenue, and the Church (and its very different type of recruiting) more exposure as well. As an aside, last summer when they first decided to do this, there was a lot of talk locally that it was the only way they would get invited to a major conference when the next round of dominoes started to fall with the Big 12.

The Big 12 is really appealing to them because a) what they've really wanted all along is to be in a major BCS conference, and b) they could come on board now and try cut some special deal like the one that Texas has where they run their own tv and keep the revenue.

ND is not going to join a conference unless the superconference scenario comes into play. Above all else, what drives ND's thinking -- more than the tradition, more than the NBC money, more than the fact that they're already in the BCS cartel under their own terms -- is that their fucking alumni would mutiny if they tried to join a league without it being absolutely necessary. As a fan, I've long thought that the Irish need to join the Big East or Big Ten in order to ever have a legitimate shot of putting together a team (and schedule) that could again contend for a national title. A lot of people in their administration get it, but every time they've done the conference dance, the boosters have absolutely lost their shit over it. However, if the four sixteen-team conference thing happens, ND would get in with either the Big Ten or whatever mutant conference emerges out of the parts of the Big East and ACC. The Big Ten probably; I'd imagine that the Big Ten's wish list would be ND, Missouri, Syracuse, and Rutgers.

[Miroir Noir]

And Tommy, I think if BYU joins the Big 12, it may actually stabilize that conference. Even if the SEC expands with A&M and lets say FSU, or even two more teams on top of those, I don't see why that necessarily starts a domino effect that ripples through the other conferences. The Big Ten and Pac-12 just expanded, and now get their big revenue conference title games. I'm not sure that I see the rationale in either of those conferences expanding just to keep up with the SEC. Additionally, I'm not sure that Texas and Oklahoma want to leave. They're not natural fits in either the SEC or the Pac-12, and they way they have things right now is pretty sweet: they play each other, and if the one of them that wins finishes their season undefeated, they almost always get picked to go to the BCS title game. Missing the additional conference title game isn't going to hurt their chances with the computers too badly. And guess what: you don't have to compete in the SEC gauntlet every year, or travel thousands of miles to play road games in Corvalis and Pullman. Moreover, Texas (especially) has it pretty sweet financially. There are a lot of incentives for those schools to stay where they are if they can keep it together.

[suprefan]

What is happening with TCU.

[Miroir Noir]

They graduated a ton of kids from those BCS teams.

[suprefan]

Baylor is the real deal, thats what is up. TCU still had a ton of talent coming back. Insane.

[dorkfish]

New TCU QB doesn't know how to finish drives behind an unproven o-line. They also lost their top S/CB combo to the NFL Draft this year.

[suprefan]

Griffin put on a freaking clinic tonight. Oh yeah, Wisconsin last night looked great on Offense, not so much on Defense.

[dorkfish]

I hope TCU ends up winning. That would be an awesome start to their season.

[dorkfish]

one possession game!

[dorkfish]

TCU is totally going to get the ball back. Score another TD. Screw up the 2-pt. Miraculously get the ball back. And then miss the last second field goal.

[dorkfish]

holy hell, this is probably going to be game of the year.

[dorkfish]

TCU is totally going to get the ball back. Score another TD. Screw up the 2-pt.

so far, so good

[mmsk123]

Good try TCU. They just seemed shocked at the start and couldn't bring it back.

[Miroir Noir]

What a start to a season!

[biggfoot17]

This TCU loss could kill Boise State's chances. Although, losing two starting WR could kill their chances too. As a BSU fan, I'm uncomfortably nervous for tomorrow's game

[dorkfish]

WAC's Utah State is up by 10 with 3 minutes left at defending champ Auburn, right now.

[dorkfish]

Now this is turning into an all time great Auburn comeback.

[boarderwoozel3]

Damn. Utah State pulled a... Utah State.

[C DUB YA]

Duck... Duck... Goose.

I wonder if losing hurts more in those fancy uniforms?

[biggfoot17]

The Oregon loss is great. Totally opens the door for Boise St to march its way to the top while Bama and LSU get to run the gauntlet that is the SEC

[C DUB YA]

The Oregon loss is great. Totally opens the door for Boise St to march its way to the top while Bama and LSU get to run the gauntlet that is the SEC

This is true. TCU losing didn't do the Broncos any favors though. I also don't think Boise is nearly as good as they were last year, Georgia is not a good football team.

[C DUB YA]

As a Notre Dame fan, I'm looking forward to going 11-0, and then getting successively destroyed by Luck in his Heisman game and the second place SEC team in a BCS game.

Um... yeah.... no.

[C DUB YA]

Also like to point out these fucking uniforms (Boise/Oregon/Georgia) are starting to look like the ones in Starship Troopers. Stop it already.

I better not see a flip-six-three-hole play anytime soon.

[CuervoPH]

College football sucks. Ole Miss lost to BYU. At least Houston Nutt is on his death watch now.

That being said, way to go Boise State.

[gaypalmsprings]

Northwestern University 1-0