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    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...ement-plan.ars

    Major ISPs agree to "six strikes" copyright enforcement plan
    By Nate Anderson

    American Internet users, get ready for three strikes "six strikes." Major US Internet providers—including AT&T, Verizon, Comcast, Cablevision, and Time Warner Cable—have just signed on to a voluntary agreement with the movie and music businesses to crack down on online copyright infringers. But they will protect subscriber privacy and they won't filter or monitor their own networks for infringement. And after the sixth "strike," you won't necessarily be "out."

    Much of the scheme mirrors what ISPs do now. Copyright holders will scan the 'Net for infringement, grabbing suspect IP addresses from peer-to-peer file-sharing networks. If they see your IP address participating in a swarm for, say, Transformers, they will look up that IP address to see which ISP controls it, then fire off a message.
    An appeals process does at least exist. Before a "mitigation measure" is taken, users can request an independent review of the accusation, but not from a judge; it remains unclear who exactly will handle the appeal. To keep everyone from using the system every time, there's a $35 filing fee (which can be waived by the independent reviewer). In addition, subscribers can always still sue their ISP in court.
    Baby steps to mitigation

    The complete list of "alert" steps is included below for your reading pleasure:

    First Alert: In response to a notice from a copyright owner, an ISP will send an online alert to a subscriber, such as an email, notifying the subscriber that his/her account may have been misused for content theft, that content theft is illegal and a violation of published policies, and that consequences could result from any such conduct. This first alert will also direct the subscriber to educational resources which will (i) help him/her to check the security of his/her computer and any Wifi network, (ii) provide explanatory steps which will help to avoid content theft in the future and (iii) provide information about the abundant sources of lawful music, film and TV content.

    Second Alert: If the alleged activity persists despite the receipt of the first alert, the subscriber may get a second similar alert that will underscore the educational messages, or the ISP may in its discretion proceed to the next alert.

    Third Alert: If the subscribers account again appears to have been used for content theft, he/she will receive another alert, much like the initial alerts. However, this alert will provide a conspicuous mechanism (a click-through pop-up notice, landing page, or similar mechanism) asking the subscriber to acknowledge receipt of this alert. This is designed to ensure that the subscriber is aware of the third copyright alert and reminds the subscriber that content theft conducted through their account could lead to consequences under the law and published policies.

    Fourth Alert: If the subscribers account again appears to have been used for content theft, the subscriber will receive yet another alert that again requires the subscriber to acknowledge receipt.

    Fifth Alert: If the subscribers account again appears to have been used for content theft, the ISP will send yet another alert. At this time, the ISP may take one of several steps, specified in its published policies, reasonably calculated to stop future content theft. These steps, referred to as Mitigation Measures, may include, for example: temporary reductions of Internet speeds, redirection to a landing page until the subscriber contacts the ISP to discuss the matter or reviews and responds to some educational information about copyright, or other measures that the ISP may deem necessary to help resolve the matter. ISPs are not obligated to impose any Mitigation Measure which would disable or be reasonably likely to disable the subscribers voice telephone service (including the ability to call 911), e-mail account, or any security or health service (such as home security or medical monitoring). The use of the mitigation measure is waivable by the ISP at this point.

    Sixth Alert: Whether or not the ISP has previously waived the Mitigation Measure, if the subscribers account again appears to have been used for content theft, the ISP will send another alert and will implement a Mitigation Measure as described above. As described above, it's likely that very few subscribers who after having received multiple alerts, will persist (or allow others to persist) in the content theft.
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    In a word: crushing.

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    NOOOOOO!
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    Yeah, this is gonna be fun....

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    Does ? count as a peer-to-peer sharing network that will be affected by this?

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    Major US Internet providers—including AT&T, Verizon, Comcast, Cablevision, and Time Warner Cable—have just signed on to a voluntary agreement with the movie and music businesses
    How exactly is internal cooperation within entertainment conglomerates a major move. This is like wal-mart deciding to stop customers from walking out of the store with merchandise they didn't pay for.
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    Six strikes?? That's fine. I'll do what I do till I get five.

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    bring it on motherfuckers

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    I'm sure by the time I get the 5th alert there will be a way around it.

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    I'm gonna mitigate all over your face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guedita View Post
    Does ? count as a peer-to-peer sharing network that will be affected by this?
    Yes.

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    We will win this fight!

    A partnership announced today between big entertainment companies and some of the nation's largest Internet service providers will not mean the end of online piracy. To be sure, the parties involved know this.
    Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-20...#ixzz1RU9F97p1


    Cuomo, like Obama, argues that piracy robs U.S. citizens of jobs and the nation's companies of revenue.

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    Damn the man

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    Quote Originally Posted by faxman75 View Post
    NOBAMA 2012
    Who then?

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    So Prince might actually come out with a new album again?
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    Once piracy is eliminated no one will go on the internet anymore and everyone will be forced to go back into the world and shop at stores. Thus the internet being over! Just as the purple one predicted. This shit is for real y'allz.

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    It's time to load the cannons!
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    Guess we're just gonna have to go back to dubbing cassette tapes for each other.
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    Fuck. My internet got suspended by Cox already. Twice.
    Once for downloading a Nintendo DS-formatted copy of Iron Man 2, and another time for downloading a PDF copy of Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. They shut me down like 5 months after I downloaded and read it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TallGuyCM View Post
    Guess we're just gonna have to go back to dubbing cassette tapes for each other.
    Exactly what I thought. Everybody join the thumb drive/memory card swapping club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faxman75 View Post
    We will win this fight!



    Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-20...#ixzz1RU9F97p1





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    Quote Originally Posted by guedita View Post
    Does ? count as a peer-to-peer sharing network that will be affected by this?
    The big advantage they have is with the tracker being private and all.



    Im suprised they just dont go after the 2% of people who hog up all the bandwidth, and the ISP's see the usage. Its kind of apparent isnt it?

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    I really hope these assholes are using this kind of united effort to go after people who download child pornography as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by suprefan View Post
    The big advantage they have is with the tracker being private and all.

    Im suprised they just dont go after the 2% of people who hog up all the bandwidth, and the ISP's see the usage. Its kind of apparent isnt it?
    Yeah, going after the seedbox folks makes the most sense and will provide them the biggest bang for their buck. Plus, I am fairly certain that the film companies are really the only ones that feel they still have a shot at reigning in piracy. The music industry is starting to (has?) throw in the towel (and, smartly, looking at different business models).

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    Quote Originally Posted by suprefan View Post
    Im suprised they just dont go after the 2% of people who hog up all the bandwidth, and the ISP's see the usage. Its kind of apparent isnt it?
    Is it? I suppose when it's persistent heavy bandwidth usage (rather than peaks / reasonable waking hours). I probably take up way more bandwidth per week streaming movies (legally) than I do downloading music though.

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    Laws pertaining to stealing copyrighted work are just as dumb as the people getting caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandma View Post
    I really hope these assholes are using this kind of united effort to go after people who download child pornography as well...
    Not likely since Time Warner doesn't yet own a child porn subsidiary. Vivendi might own one, so there's a chance.
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