Wait, let's hear him out
I don't want to get blamed for being a woman-hater, but there are a whole lot of women who misidentify in rape cases. The numbers are a little shocking, but he's my non-stats based personal experience story, culled from my time at the St. Louis Public Defender's Office:
A single woman is raped in the early morning in her home by a complete and utter scumbag who pounded on her window until it broke and entered her house. Nobody (including the victim) woke up despite the noise, but after he violently attacked her and raped her, he then took her to the bathroom and forced her to wash away (what he thought was) all the evidence. He then stole her cell phone and car, and used the cell phone to call her boyfriend and tell him that he had raped his girlfriend, and that he'd better get over there. The rapist was in the girl's presence for the better part of an hour and spoke to her boyfriend.
The police apprehended a young man, a drifter from Kentucky, and videotaped his confession to the crime. He spoke in very specific detail about the events, including the events after the physical assault, although he seemed emotionally disconnected from the story. The victim positively identified the young man as her rapist.
A year and a half later, a random DNA check on prisoners in the local jail identified another man, arrested for sexual assault, as the rapist. The police videotaped his confession to the crime, where he cried openly about the pain he caused the girl. He lived in her neighborhood and had followed her to her home, then returned later to rape her. There was only one rapist. The young man from Kentucky was released and the second man charged and convicted for the rape.
So, in this particular case, the police clearly fed the Kentucky kid the entire story, promised him something (or simply browbeat him) in exchange for the confession, and also convinced the victim that this kid was the rapist, despite his appearance being completely different from the actual rapist. (Well, they were both white) Whether it was the physical or psychological trauma that caused the misidentification, this idiot from Kentucky sat in jail for 18 months for a crime he didn't commit.
This is a 100% true story. I've seen both confessions and studied the case closely. Rape is an absolutely terrible thing, but sometimes the more brutal the crime, the greater likelihood of a mistake in the proceedings.
I like the part in that story where you explain how/when/where the woman misidentified the rapist and that's what led to the drifter's arrest.
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i'm waiting for NoNoAge to share his thoughts on this story.
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How come more men don't get raped by women security guards.
Big bertha gave it to me hard and I didn't want it
Yeah...that story was kinda dumb....seems like he was just bragging about his experience asba public pretender
Doin time......at the public pretender office
Eyewitnesses are the single biggest cause of wrongful convictions. Something like 70% of wrongful convictions are down to the eyewitness picking the wrong guy. The problem is most apparent in sex crimes because of the higher chance of DNA evidence emerging to clear somebody further down the line.
Last edited by MissingPerson; 06-02-2011 at 11:09 AM.
I only have stories that are 98% true.
Tomservo's idea of how suspected rapists should be identified:
40% - DNA evidence
20% - multiple eyewitness accounts
20% - caught in the act
10% - identification by witness
10% - B-sides & rarities
None of that stuff matters if you have money and the right lawyer.
Welcome to america...land of the fiends
Hearing set for man accused of raping music fest attendee
11:21 PM, Jun. 3, 2011
A preliminary hearing for a Los Angeles man accused of raping a 23-year-old female concertgoer at April's Stagecoach country music festival will take place later this month, officials said Friday.
Darin Ledale Garrett, 45, who worked as a parking lot attendant during the festival, is charged with felony rape, oral copulation by force and digital penetration, according to court records.
Indio Police Department spokesman Ben Guitron said Garrett attacked the victim about 9:50 p.m. April 30 on the opening night of the annual country music festival held at the Empire Polo Grounds.
Garrett's preliminary hearing was scheduled for June 30, when a judge will determine if there is enough evidence to order him to stand trial.
On the night of the alleged attack, Garrett offered assistance to the woman, who was looking for her car in an overflow parking lot, police said. When the two located the car, the defendant attacked her, according to Guitron.
“The parking attendant stayed with her and then asked her to walk toward the rear area of the car,” Guitron said. “At that time, the suspect sexually assaulted her and left when other people in the parking lot area noticed that she was in need of help.”
Garrett, who is being held in lieu of $100,000 bail, was arrested May 1 in his motel room at Indio's Palm Tree Inn, Guitron said.
I worked directly on five rape/sexual assault cases and three murders - every sex crime had an element that made the arrest questionable (though most not as bad as the coerced confession above) and every accused party (except one) sat in jail awaiting their court date for longer than a year. The others went like this:
1. 17 year old accused of sexually assaulting his 13 year old cousin. No accusation of actual sex, and no physical evidence of sex... two kids who *shared a bedroom* were playing doctor. After nearly two years awaiting trial, a hung jury sent the kid back to jail to await another trial.
2. Adult woman gets drunk in a bar and hooks up with her ex-boyfriend in her car before losing her lunch and passing out. Accuses him of date rape with roofies, no chemical evidence of anything except a lot of alcohol. The accused was not in jail in this case.
3. Adult woman accuses two separate men of date rape, one in St. Louis, the other in St. Charles. Both men are arrested and await trial in jail. On the week of the St. Charles trial, the woman breaks down and admits she fabricated BOTH accusations. St. Charles guy released, St. Louis Circuit Attorney refuses to drop charges until the eve of trial while the accused remains in jail.
4. Adult woman accuses her ex-husband of raping her very young daughter. The child is too young or traumatized to verbalize the accusation, she simply points to a doll's private areas. The man is arrested and jailed. There is no physical evidence of sexual assault, and the accused was in the process of fighting for partial custody of the child. He vehemently denied the act (of course he would) and it was a simple "may or may not be guilty" situation.
Rape is an absolutely horrible crime. My mother was raped and it led to the downfall of my parents' marriage. My sisters' husband's best friend attempted to rape her in our house (I walked in on them) and later strangled his mother to death. What happened to the girl at Stagecoach was just terrible. None of these stories are meant to take away from that, just attempting to add a little texture to the conversation.
And to whoever said I'm bragging about working at the public pretender... please. The lawyers I worked with know the law and their judges better than anybody else in the County. I watched unprepared private attorneys get dressed down in court every day while the PD smoothly navigated the system. Outside of the hotshot $550/hour criminal defense guys, I'd take the PD any day. They're very busy with a whole lot of clients, but they're not pretenders. I'm not trying to impress anybody, just sharing some experience. It's a discussion forum... is it wrong to have a discussion?
i seriously don't get why THIS is the case where people are choosing to accuse the victim of lying. i'm not saying it isn't possible, but all the examples listed above are examples of people having SOME contact with each other before the act happened and without witnesses. fucking christ.
Good follow up.
You should take it easy.
Yea as someone said Woodstock 99 with a bit of Altamont thrown in. Men can be pigs no doubt, esp cowboys. Cr****
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I heard the girl who got raped was Malcolm Jamal Awesome!
Darin Ledale Garrett released a statement through his court appointed lawyer: "she was into it and came a bunch of times"
I wanna be molested by Hotshot
They hire anyone to do security or parking jobs. They randomly select people. If u get called u get the job. No background checks or nothing. Its good if u want to just make some money. But don't trust people u don't know!
Don't trust people that can't take the time to type the extra two letters in the word "you" either.
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