The people who throw the thing partied with us all wekend in Detroit. 8^) great dudes
Rhythm is a dancer.
New Deepchord album on the way.
Back from music adventures. Had to pop in here and say how blown away I was with Blawan. Missed him (mostly) at Sonar, as his B2B with Mary Anne Hobbs turned out to be more like 30 minutes of him, 30 minutes of her (and I wandered over at least 20 minutes in), but caught his set at Fabric this weekend and he was terrific.
This is a bit negative and out of place in this thread, but here it is anyway: after going to Fabric and a bunch of parties in Spain, I once again have to wonder how people can dare claim the US crowds at clubs are so terrible in comparison. I've never seen people so fucked up, so unaware of what was going on around them, and so lacking knowledge and interest in the music. Fabric in particular, absolutely awful crowd, the sort that I'd associate only with bridge & tunnel crowds here. I suppose Berlin may be different (or at least a venue or two there), that may have to be my next pilgrimage.
Edit: That sounds overly negative, I didn't mean to imply that I didn't have a GREAT time. It's just such a disappointment that even some of the most widely talked about clubs are full of douchebags. My expectations must be too high. Thank god for good sound and good lineups.
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Fabric is a massive tourist trap with no door policy, what did you expect.
I didn't expect the crowd to be worse than the worst tourist trap/bridge & tunnel clubs here. That's all. There's a lot of talk about how terrible American crowds are for EDM shows. While I think that's true sometimes, almost every event I've been to overseas has had a worse crowd than I've seen at US shows. Starting to feel like in order to for venues to be popular enough to attract (and pay for) great bookings, it has to be supported by masses of idiots who've just come to get completely fucked and to pull.
Well, as I said, maybe the next trip I'll focus on Berlin and venues with door policies. (For what it's worth, I didn't go there specifically to go to Fabric - had a 11PM-10AM layover at LHR, so it seemed like a reasonable thing to do with the free time, and I'm not sorry I went since Shed and Blawan were quite good!). I saw a ton of great music while away but am so very glad to be back in SF where I can see good music with people who can behave like adults despite the substances they've swallowed.
Edit: also I was really dismissive of people who poo-pooed on Sonar, saying it was only good 10 years ago. From the comments, I inferred that they were talking about the bookings, not... the crowd. What a shit show. I saw some really good acts, and thought the venue itself was pretty good (sound-wise, set-up) but holy crap the crowds were worse than US massives. It was only "lacking" kids in kandy and costumes.
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Function speaking w/ LWE in a recent interview:
I actually like coming back to the States and playing. There’s sometimes where I have to step back and think to myself, like, when I go to New York and I play at Bunker, it’s like everybody knows what they’re hearing. They’re educated about the music, and there is this nice sense of hunger because they’ve been deprived of it, so they really make the most of it when they experience it. And they’re really educated maybe because they’re sort of deprived of it. Where in Europe sometimes you experience this shows where it’s just like — it becomes obvious to you, these people just want to go out and get off their tits. You have your fanbase and stuff like that, but I can definitely say that sometimes it seems a little bit watered down, especially in Berlin [with] the lengths of time that people are out and exposed to music. That experience gets diluted across 14 to 16 hours, where in the States it’s like it has to end by four or five, in some cities even earlier. So they’re soaking that up and really paying attention to it. That’s actually really inspiring to me, you know"
Ben Klock had similarly nice things to say about playing in Minneapolis (as opposed to New York or a big Euro metropolis) some time back.
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Boris - 7/29 - The Mohawk
NIN/Soundgarden/ - 8/14 - Austin 360
Woods - 8/20 - Holy Mountain
Jamie xx - 8/27 - The Mohawk
Little Dragon - 8/31 - Moody Theater
Ty Segall - 9/5 - The Mohawk
Seth Troxler - 9/5 - Vulcan Gas Company
Black Lips/King Khan & BBQ Show - 9/12 - J. Lorraine Ghost Town
There are some events in New York where the crowd has been excellent (a great example being Omar S on Sunday - everyone was totally there for the music - just relaxing, dancing and having a great time), but there are also events where the crowd has ruined the event a bit for me. It really depends. I find generally that the smaller events have a better crowd. People are typically there for the artist and not because it's something to do/somewhere to get fucked up.
I haven't been to very many events and Europe so I can't really compare though.
Hah. Yea, as far as layovers go, it was pretty great. I came really close to bailing on the thing due to torrential rains, all of the friends I'd planned to meet up with bailing, and more tube closures/transit problems than I expected, BUT it sure as hell beat sitting in the airport for hours. I felt like a derelict though, coming back to the airport and boarding a flight on no sleep, no shower, (thankfully I'd thought ahead to stash a backpack with some clean clothes in left luggage at the airport), eyes still crazy. It was a very long trip home...
FWIW, I really have no problem with people getting fucked up or really drunk at shows, it's entirely a matter of how they're able to conduct themselves in that state. If they're there /just/ to get fucked up and to ensure everyone around them understands exactly how fucked up they are... that's really really annoying.
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Glad you had a good trip! Wish I could have gone to Sonar. Barcelona seems like a great city.
Hah. Yea, to be honest, overly drunk people annoy me more than high people. In that the super drunk people usually are less aware of their surroundings and their impact on other people, whereas -usually- I feel like people who are high as fuck make a little bit of effort to not be so obvious. There is more social and authoritative pressure to not be so obviously on drugs versus not being so obviously drunk.
I think most of us has the occasional situation where WE are the bad crowd, but when it's the majority of a crowd, or the same people doing it every time, that's very disheartening.
Actually, at Fabric, I was at one of my sloppiest points ever in a venue (I actually puked for the first time ever in a venue - fortunately in the restroom, quietly, with some dignity left intact). And I still hated at least half the crowd for being a shit show. :P
Some killer summer releases coming out.
But what are everyone's favorite first half of 2012 releases. I've honestly been very distracted.
Shifted, Claro Intelecto, Lucy, Stellate... Those are the most obvious.. But what else have I mssed?
Rhythm is a dancer.
I've listened to almost no new music this year. Someone please download stuff, bring it to my place, tie me to a chair and make me listen to it all.
prepare for face fuckage
Rhythm is a dancer.
8/16: Anthony Naples, Maxmillion Dunbar @ f8
8/18: Man Man @ The Chapel
8/23-8/24: FYF Fest
8/30: Peaking Lights @ The Chapel
9/3: Bear in Heaven @ The Independent
9/24 - 28: Decibel Festival
10/5: The War on Drugs, Cass McCombs @ The Fillmore
10/18-19: Treasure Island Music Festival
Stoked for emptyset -
Also Robag Wruhme made my day.
R_co's account has been emptied. Ugh.
definitely hope that the emptyset set veers more towards the recent stuff... please let the sound system be sufficient, i have no interest in a ben frost-esque fiasco.