Rage Against The Machine, July 30th 2011

[Rosemont17]

From the Rage site:

Breaking News 5/3/11
All info will be released on Monday morning, May 9 regarding the L.A. Rising festival featuring Rage Against The Machine, Muse, Rise Against and more! Get the latest news on the L.A. Rising page on Facebook at facebook.com/LArising

[Bons222000]

I agree with you.

Tool is an amazing band, and one of my favorites but I think Muse is a better live band.

None of the guys in Tool have the stage presence of Matt. They just stand there and recreate their amazing songs. I love Adam Jones's style of guitar playing, Hes one of the reasons i started playing guitar. But he isn't a dynamic live performer. Maynard usually sounds great but these days he doesn't give 100% of himself the way Matt almost always does.

I'd put Justin on the same level as chris in terms of stage presence. I'd give a slight advantage to Danny over Dom in terms of stage presence. Sure danny might deserve more respect at his craft, but while performing they both seem to be in the same ballpark in stage presence.

I'll happily take either band don't get me wrong. Also, I never saw tool on the lateralus or aenima tours, which were supposedly raw as fuck and incredible. I only saw 10,000 days shows, which sounded great but the performers themselves didn't seem to extatic to be there.

I love both Muse and Tool live. They are two of the best bands ever, and it would take a lot for me to miss either live.

However, I have to slightly respectfully disagree with you. I think Muse is great, but they are a little more flashy, silly, fun on stage...while I think Tool focuses on the music and artistry of the performance a little more. I am in no way ripping Muse, but I think Tool has slightly more integrity when playing live. Muse's kind of show has been done before, Tool's really hasn't. Sure, Matt has the stage presence, he shreds that guitar, but Danny Carey is just about the best drummer I've ever seen live.

I think this will come down to personal taste for most.

[citizenerased]

Haha exactly, it is opinion.

[TomServo]

I think Muse is great, but they are a little more flashy, silly, fun on stage...while I think Tool focuses on the music and artistry of the performance a little more. I am in no way ripping Muse, but I think Tool has slightly more integrity when playing live. Muse's kind of show has been done before, Tool's really hasn't. Sure, Matt has the stage presence, he shreds that guitar, but Danny Carey is just about the best drummer I've ever seen live.

If integrity = not being flashy, silly, fun... does that just mean "be boring?"

Some of the most amazing artists of our generation and those before are flashy, silly, fun, but still genius and respectful of their craft. Prince is the definition of flashy, silly, and fun, but the dude honors music by creating and performing it at a ridiculous pace.

You don't have to be overly serious to have integrity.

[nathanfairchild]

If integrity = not being flashy, silly, fun... does that just mean "be boring?"

Some of the most amazing artists of our generation and those before are flashy, silly, fun, but still genius and respectful of their craft. Prince is the definition of flashy, silly, and fun, but the dude honors music by creating and performing it at a ridiculous pace.

You don't have to be overly serious to have integrity.

lets avoid turning this thread into a muse vs. tool debate.

[TomServo]

I'm not... hey, I went to see Tool when they came through, and I'm seeing APC as well... but I'd never say a band has more integrity because they come out and play without any humor or personality.

Heck, guys like Bob Dylan and Paul Simon have more musical integrity than just about anybody, and they've got great sense of humor.

[nathanfairchild]

I'm not... hey, I went to see Tool when they came through, and I'm seeing APC as well... but I'd never say a band has more integrity because they come out and play without any humor or personality.

Heck, guys like Bob Dylan and Paul Simon have more musical integrity than just about anybody, and they've got great sense of humor.

bob dylan is depressing live now

[Mr. Dylanja]

Silly hipsters.

[TomServo]

bob dylan is depressing live now

I concur. I couldn't even watch his performance on the Grammys at all.

But from what I hear of his shows, he's been known to crack a joke and smile his rickety old face in the general direction of frightened children.

[suprefan]

From the Rage site:

Breaking News 5/3/11
All info will be released on Monday morning, May 9 regarding the L.A. Rising festival featuring Rage Against The Machine, Muse, Rise Against and more! Get the latest news on the L.A. Rising page on Facebook at facebook.com/LArising

Figures. You cant put Weenie Roast AND L.A. Rising onsale at the same time.

[Bons222000]

If integrity = not being flashy, silly, fun... does that just mean "be boring?"

Some of the most amazing artists of our generation and those before are flashy, silly, fun, but still genius and respectful of their craft. Prince is the definition of flashy, silly, and fun, but the dude honors music by creating and performing it at a ridiculous pace.

You don't have to be overly serious to have integrity.

You don't. I didn't say Muse doesn't have integrity. I just said Tool has more. I'll take Maynard's silhouette over Matt's glitter jacket and Kanye glasses. That's just me.

I also said it will come down to personal taste. I do not disagree with you, but to me being serious and artsy show stays with me. A flashy show is fun when you're there but in the end you don't get as much out of it. Again, that's me. You don't have to agree.

In any case both bands are awesome because of their SOUND live.

[Bons222000]

bob dylan is depressing live now

I saw Bob Dylan in Connecticut in 2006 and it was maybe the worst live show I've ever seen. He's obviously got more artistic street cred than anyone.

[tigermilkboy]

bob dylan is depressing live now

I think a lot of people get disillusioned when they go see Dylan play these days and especially if you have never seen Dylan before. I have seen Dylan a lot -probably at least 18 times. I accepted that his voice isn't what it was and comes as a great shock to anyone who has only ever heard him from the 60's and 70's. But I was still enjoying the performances.
However, the last two Dylan shows I saw, even I was depressed by his voice. Only Dylan can get away with sounding this bad. I was shocked when hardcore Dylan fans reviewed the performance 'great'.

[GaragePoet]

this sucks...

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/...new_album.html

[nathanfairchild]

dang.

[Mr. Dylanja]

I'm pretty sure they don't get along. Busy? Busy being a shadow of what you once were?

[nathanfairchild]

I'm pretty sure they don't get along. Busy? Busy being a shadow of what you once were?

agreed. zack's done what, 5 shows with ODAL? tom has kinda been doing some stuff but for all we know, the other two just sit at home waiting to get the call to do another rage show.

[TheRotten42]

agreed. zack's done what, 5 shows with ODAL? tom has kinda been doing some stuff but for all we know, the other two just sit at home waiting to get the call to do another rage show.

They had Audioslave for a little while.

[nathanfairchild]

They had Audioslave for a little while.

not since the reunion is what i meant

[Phantasma Del Mar]

So does this actually go on sale monday?

[suprefan]

No, theyre announcing info on monday.

[nathanfairchild]

well....it's monday

[suprefan]

And thats not how it works in this town. Wait about 8 hours and youll know whats up.

[MidnightSIX]

Tickets go on Sale Friday 5/13/2011 @ 10am.
They are $99 & $69 dollars (im guessing there's gonna be seats and GA?)

was just announced on KROQ, its at The Coliseum, it is just one day apparantly. They didn't announced any bands *during the radio promo but online they have a new flyer announcing the Roots and Immortal Technique *



should be pretty cool, KROQ is also having a pre-sale "soon" (so maybe sometime this week?)

[ficklecycle]

Sweeeet.

[Rosemont17]

gonna start planning now. any hotels in the area that are walking distance to the coliseum?

[nathanfairchild]

this is gonna be great. can't wait until July 30th!!

[EastLos01]

gonna start planning now. any hotels in the area that are walking distance to the coliseum?

There are quite a few, but be careful where you stay. There are quite a few no-tell motels around there.

[dancefreak]

There's a Radisson right there at USC on Figueroa. Also plenty of better hotels up Figueroa by LA Live/Staples too (Figueroa Hotel, Luxe, JW Marriott)...it's a 20 minute walk or a short cab from there.

[thombjork]

the radisson on figueroa is your best bet.

its right next to the coliseum and right across the street from USC.

any of the hotels at LA live you will need to cab it. its too far to walk

and there are lots of seedy motels around there so be careful. if you can't get a room at the radisson, do one of the downtown hotels.

hotel figueroa is awesome. great pool/lounge area