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    So the fall season is upon us, and for some strange reason beyond my control, I have an affinity for it. It's very nostalgic to me and I love it. The humidity drenched heat finally fucks off and it's rather comfortable outside.

    Anyway, I've started getting into to more gothic rock/darkwave and stuff like that; it connects to the nostalgia for whatever reason. Maybe I'm just going to have a kickass halloween party or something.

    What are some of your recommendations here? I've been into Bauhaus for a while, but that's honestly it.

    I'm slowly getting into The Sisters of Mercy, some of Gary Numan's later stuff (which is hit and more often miss unfortunately), and Souixie and the Banshees.

    what are some other more accessible groups that I could get into?

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    Cocteau Twins, Killing Joke, Type O Negative, Skinny Puppy, Front Line Assembly, Alien Sex Fiend, Christian Death. Crushingblows.

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    The cover of "Song to the Siren" on here will destroy you.

    This Mortal Coil - It'll End in Tears


    Also:

    Dead Can Dance - Into the Labyrinth


    I'm sure I could think of more, but those two albums are great.

    Oh wait:

    Bauhaus - In the Flat Field

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    It's a big genre of music, Matt.

    First off Siouxsie and the Banshees were just a post punk band/modern rock that dabbled in lots of different sounds. The only album of their's I really consider "Gothic" is JuJu from 1981. They are one of my all time favorite bands though so if you need any guidance please ask. Also check out Siouxsie and her exhusband's band The Creatures.

    There were two distinct periods of Gothic rock, the first wave, which was the 80s and the second wave which was the 90s.

    First wave bands worth checking out are acts like Xmal Deutschland, early Christian Death, Specimen, Alien Sex Fiend, Play Dead, The March Violets, Tones on Tail, Fields of The Nephlim, Red Lorry Yellow Lorry, The Virgin Prunes, Sex Gang Children and The Southern Death Cult.

    Check out an OLD comp from like 1992ish called Gothic Rock. I'm not sure if it's still in print or not but I imagine the more p2p savy people should be able to find it no problem at all.

    Bands of note from the second wave were acts like Faith & The Muse, The Cruxshadows early stuff, Corpus Delecti, London After Midnight, The Shroud, Incubus Succubus, Rosetta Stone, The Wake, Switchblade Symphony and a ton more.

    Then you have lots of other world/folk/ethereal music that got lumped in with Gothic like This Ascension, Black Tape for a Blue Girl, Rhea's Obsession, The Changlings, The Legendary Pink Dots, Death in June, Current 93, Ataraxia etc.
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    So is this thread meant to be about traditional goth rock (like the aforementioned Sisters of Mercy and Bauhaus) or also about industrial and EBM/Darkwave? It all tends to get lumped (incorrectly) into one big genre but the 3 are quite distinct from one another.

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    I was only talking about Gothic Rock myself which is why I didn't mention any Industrial or EBM or acts like Skinny Puppy.
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    In that case, let's start with these:

    Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy, Killing Joke, Birthday Party (and early Nick Cave), Joy Division, Siouxie and the Banshees, Echo and the Bunnymen, Cocteau Twins.

    Also early Cure, especially "Pornography".

    There's way more obscure stuff of course, but those are the big names I've been into. And yes, my picks are incredibly 80's oriented but let's face it, that was the golden age of this particular genre.

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    A more recent band of this decade that play a fantastic traditional goth rock with female vocals is Birthday Massacre. They're on the Metropolis records label (a haven for Industrial/EBM) and highly worth checking out.

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    You are correct. I don't follow this music at all really any more but every once in awhile a band does come up on my radar and I do quite enjoy the Birthday Massacre.
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    Also mid-era Depeche--Music for the Masses, Black Celebration, Violator.
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    I approve of this thread! Some music recomendations I actually care about
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cookieman908 View Post
    In that case, let's start with these:

    Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy, Killing Joke, Birthday Party (and early Nick Cave), Joy Division, Siouxie and the Banshees, Echo and the Bunnymen, Cocteau Twins.

    Also early Cure, especially "Pornography".

    There's way more obscure stuff of course, but those are the big names I've been into. And yes, my picks are incredibly 80's oriented but let's face it, that was the golden age of this particular genre.
    I always assumed that Joy Division and Echo were more post-punk, no? What would you consider goth about Echo?

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    Also, many thanks to everyone for the recommendations. Very much appreciated!

    If anyone want's to get more specific with some groups (like which album to go to first), that'd really help me out. I know some, especially Killing Joke, have a pretty extensive discography. I'll also check the "young'n's extensive discography" thread too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by betao View Post
    I always assumed that Joy Division and Echo were more post-punk, no? What would you consider goth about Echo?
    I would never consider stuff like Depeche Mode, Joy Division or Echo Gothic rock. That stuff was music that was listened to by goth kids but I would just consider it post punk, dark pop, stuff like that. The term is pretty broadly used to cover a lot of music. For Instance, as an example you might have people that are really into Trance that are big fans of Underworld but I would never call their music Trance itself.
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    Some great goth/moody records not to be missed

    The Mission-God's Own Medicine
    The Danse Society-Heaven Is Waiting
    Clan Of Xymox-Medusa
    Modern English-Mesh & Lace/After The Snow
    Sad Lovers And Giants-Epic Garden Music
    Sisters Of Mercy-First Last & Always
    The Damned-Phantasmagoria

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    thanks jazzz!

    currently downloading some of the recommendations now, including:

    alien sex fiend
    dead can dance (self titled)
    faith and the muse
    sex gang children
    london after midnight

    thanks again for the recommendations, and keep the suggestions coming!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bballarl View Post
    The cover of "Song to the Siren" on here will destroy you.

    This Mortal Coil - It'll End in Tears
    I was recommended this literally today at the record expo in claremont and bought it.

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    Dead Can Dance is a fantastic band name. I am going to download some of their stuff based on nothing but the name.
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    They are amazing. Would love to see them live again someday.

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    Yes Dead Can Dance are amazing live. I highly recommend the live DVD "Toward The Within" It is awesome + I was in the audience! Also Brendan Perry's solo record "Eye Of The Hunter" is amazing as well.

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    Much approval for this thread. Anyone with an interest in goth rock should check out Zola Jesus' 2010 ep Stridulum. My favorite track on it:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cookieman908 View Post
    Also early Cure, especially "Pornography".
    This is exactly what I was going to say when I read the title of this thread. To add: hints of Disintegration and most of Seventeen Seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cookieman908 View Post
    Also early Cure, especially "Pornography".
    My favorite Cure album... The Figurehead. Great lyrics, amazing sound, and that bassline always gets me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bballarl View Post
    The cover of "Song to the Siren" on here will destroy you.

    This Mortal Coil - It'll End in Tears
    Elizabeth Fraser's vocals just SCREAM on this track. Fucking phenomenal album, though I'd argue against the "goth" label for it. Perhaps select segments of tracks on "Tarantula" or "Kangaroo." Either way, fantastic choice. Love 4AD just in general.

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    I kinda feel like the best hope out of this thread is that the Dead Can Dance get reunited at 2011 because goldenvoice saw this.
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    I always felt that Disentegration was too pretty to be Goth. I know that sounds weird, but ...it's just pretty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ficklecycle View Post
    This is exactly what I was going to say when I read the title of this thread. To add: hints of Disintegration and most of Seventeen Seconds.

    Don't forget about good ol' 'Faith' heavy dense bass in there as well..


    oh and there's this goth compilation with great tracks


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    Thanks again for the recommendations, keep them coming!

    also: Where can I start on Killing Joke? I know they have a ton of albums.

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    www.allmusic.com is a helpful resource that I use to focus my listening when I am first getting into bands.

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    With Killing Joke, just go chronologically. Most of their stuff is consistently good but the first couple of albums are the best.

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