Who Has Headliner Potential in 5 Years?

[nechadi]

no. no she couldn't.

[icedKeg]

First of all, think about it, to headline you have to have STAGE PRESENCE. Does mopey Beach House have that? No. And I'm a huge BH fan. I'm also realistic.


Think about bands like the Killers and Muse, bands that were 6 point font on the poster back in the day...then honed their live shows, put out some ANTHEMIC songs, add some fireworks and lasers and viola, Headliners.

so why couldn't Beach House hone their live show and put out some ANTHEMIC songs and become headliners?

haha alright i'll give it a rest. this thread is ridiculous but i kinda love it.

[nechadi]

have you heard Beach House?? That's not what they do...they're too busy looking down..the first firework that goes off would scare the living piss out of Alex.

This thread is beyond ridic! haha

[brycerosen]

The Roots, TV on the Radio, The YYY's

[Garbarator]

Animal Collective, anyone?

got a new album in the works right now, they were high up on 2011's poster. Why isn't this obvious?

[Auckland]

Take your pick:

Phoenix
The XX (if they don't screw things up)
Florence
MGMT
Bon Iver
Vampire Weekend
Deadmau5
Mumford
Band of Horses
M83
The Killers (again)
The Temper Trap (given a good 2nd album and continued success)

[Bumblebee]

Florence just sold out 9,000 tickets before noon first day sales. Deer Lake Park Vancouver/Burnaby

Stripes/Bjork/REM/Keys/Arcade didn't do that as quickly when they played the same venue in recent years.

[KidRobot]

^The Knife counts as EDM, but I don't see them headlining. There isn't anybody I can think of unless Deadmau5 releases an album that gets sampled by Kanye.

The Knife probably won't be headlining anytime soon, unless somehow their next album is a massive commercial success.

these debates are so hard to have because it's all hypothetical. a year ago nobody would have said Bon Iver and now you're all saying it. if Beach House's 2012 release has the same commercial and critical success that Bon Iver had in 2011, they are just as much worthy of headlining in 3-5 years. You can't say Bon Iver COULD headline within the next five years and Beach House could not. Beach House's sound is just as large as Bon Iver, and in my opinion it is larger.

Edit: and Kid Robot I'm not trying to single you out, you just had basically the point i'm trying to make in your previous post. there seems to be a few folks that are saying Bon Iver yes, Beach House no.

I see what you mean, but Bon Iver's music totally transforms live on stage. On record, yes, you could say both of their music doesn't have a large sound, but Bon Iver does a complete 180 when performing live. Beach House, however, does not. And I agree what the other person says about stage presence. They are definitely not boring to watch, but you're simply watching them perform the music, not really watching an actual audio-visual performance piece. Coachella headliners (most) give a SHOW, not simply a rendition of their record music.

There's no question she could headline right now if she wanted to even with only 2 albums. It's not likely for her to do festivals but if Coachella had the opportunity to book her would they not? If on the lineup, are we saying she's someone who'd be billed under the Black Keys and between SHM and Mazzy Star? We're talking about the hottest name in music right now. Is she too boring? Coachella has surprised us before.

Adele might be able to headline after another huge commercially successful album, but if she was on the 2012 bill, she would have been a subheadliner tops.

Animal Collective, anyone?

got a new album in the works right now, they were high up on 2011's poster. Why isn't this obvious?

This seems plausible.

The Temper Trap (given a good 2nd album and continued success)

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[witham]

Yeah I could see Animal Collective.

[icedKeg]

I see what you mean, but Bon Iver's music totally transforms live on stage. On record, yes, you could say both of their music doesn't have a large sound, but Bon Iver does a complete 180 when performing live. Beach House, however, does not. And I agree what the other person says about stage presence. They are definitely not boring to watch, but you're simply watching them perform the music, not really watching an actual audio-visual performance piece. Coachella headliners (most) give a SHOW, not simply a rendition of their record music.

true dat. i got you. i've noticed that i often agree with most things you say around here Kid Robot.

[Auckland]

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I'm talking strictly potential. If their 2nd album is bigger than their first and they have an extensive tour, then follow that up with a successful 3rd album, it doesn't seem impossible. And yes, I know, that rationalization could apply to anyone.

[AeroplaneJunkie]

I think if MGMT's new self-titled album is as good as their first one, they'll headline next year. but if we're still talking about the 5 years from now thing, I'm taking LCD Soundsystem, Bon Iver, and Animal Collective.
I think the only rapper that's popular now that hasn't already peaked is Drake, even though I hate him. I think that unfortunately, Drake can headline in 5 years.

[heart cooks brain]

I think if MGMT's new self-titled album is as good as their first one, they'll headline next year. but if we're still talking about the 5 years from now thing, I'm taking LCD Soundsystem, Bon Iver, and Animal Collective.
I think the only r

and then aeroplanejunkie died, unable to finish his final post.

[AeroplaneJunkie]

and then aeroplanejunkie died, unable to finish his final post.

and on the 7th day, he was revived, and goldenvoice hooked it up with weekend 2 passes so he couldn't worry about Jeff Mangum conflicts :')

[frizzlefry]

I don't know about Animal Collective ever headlining, I think it would be risky looking at their setlist last year, they don't seem to give two shits about pulling out hit after hit in order to appeal to the largest audience. I'm sure they were plenty of casual fans or people who only recognized the name that were walking by or who came in late to see them and thought the monitors were broken or something. Granted I would shit bricks if they did headline, I doubt it will happen in five years though, that seems too late for them, they opened for AF last year, if it does happen it would be with their next album release if it has a song in a Itunes commercial or something.

Edit: Fuck MGMT headlining, they'd have to do something about their dreadfully boring live show to ever justify a headlining spot. Granted, they might just not belong in a festival setting, I haven't seen them anywhere else, but still, anybody who says MGMT can headline has probably never seen their show live.

[grannock]

What electro artist do you see headlining? Because the only EDM artist I see with headlining potential is Daft Punk.

In upcomming years?? I think you will find the real friday headliner this year is shm, not the black keys.

Edm is exploding in popularity, if gv swings with this trend any numer of 10 cheese acts could headline with superstars like avicii and skrillex going from 0 - megastar in under a year. I dont see anything like this in the "rock" sector these days.

[FreshLaundry]

there won't be any EDM headlining acts until Daft Punk does it first. Then yes it will explode. Kinda like how it's not unusual for a rap artist to headline a day, there'll be an EDM headliner. Except the only reason there are rap headliners is cause they've run out of rock headliners.

[mazzystareyes]

BASEDGOD

[KidRobot]

SHM might draw a larger crowd than The Black Keys, but I still couldn't see them actually putting Swedish House Mafia in big letters on the top line.

[jefferie]

SHM might draw a larger crowd than The Black Keys, but I still couldn't see them actually putting Swedish House Mafia in big letters on the top line.

Maybe but the Black Keys are pretty big, they are one of the few bands that has crossed over to VH1 and top 40 while still maintaining artistic credibility and in my opinion still make great music. SHM is the biggest EDM act of the weekend though, right?

[frizzlefry]

I personally think it's a toss up between Guetta and SHM, even if most Guetta fans don't realize their favorite Usher or Minaj song is actually a Guetta track

[unit300021]

The Roots, TV on the Radio, The YYY's

As much as I hate to say it The Roots and TV on the Radio are never going to be headliners. As much as I love them both they are always going to be the "cool indie" sub headliner and never the massive popular mainstream headliner.

[Eric the Corgi Cadet]

Animal Collective, anyone?

got a new album in the works right now, they were high up on 2011's poster. Why isn't this obvious?

As much as I loved seeing them last year, the crowd that stormed away from the main stage five minutes after they began playing was MASSIVE.
I don't think they'll ever be enough of a ticket buying draw to be a headliner

[hippiephonics]

black keys sold out madison square garden in fifteen minutes. all the biggest edm acts in the world have played coachella in the last decade. none of them headlined the main stage. what in the hell is a house mafia?

[witham]

SHM sold out MSG in less time. Does that make them a more worthy headliner?

[hippiephonics]

SHM sold out MSG in less time. Does that make them a more worthy headliner?

considering that the black keys have played new york about twice a year since 2009, no, not really. theres a difference between a band that constantly comes through and can still sell out an arena and a rave act who rarely do. then theres the whole part where house music is shit.

[witham]

So what this is really about is the fact that you don't like house music and are upset it might grace the main stage, right?

[Garbarator]

If this next Animal Collective album is as big or bigger than MPP, and they go on another post album release tour, like they did with MPP, i could see em headlining 2013, or 2014 maybe.

idk about 5 years from now, maybe, they could be huge in 5 years.

[TeaJay]

In 5 years? This is so tough because we never know who's gonna blow up out of no where. How about span of 3-7. Some possibilities I guess? Even though apparently everyone and their mom is wrong with their predictions because everyone has their panties in a bunch.
Bon Iver
Mumford and Sons
Muse
The Killers
Rage Against The Machine (Fingers Crossed)
The White Stripes
The Mars Volta
Foo Fighters
Coldplay
The Smashing Pumpkins
Rush
Outkast
Eminem
Drake (maybe with The Weeknd if he blows up)
Death Cab For Cutie (if they come through with an amazing album next time around)
RHCP (One last chance)
Some Amazing Superband that comes out of no where?
More and More reunions
Paul Mcartney and Ringo Starr playing with holograms of John and George as The Beatles (One can dream)
Incubus (this will never happen even though I think it should)
and a lot more I can't think of, etc.

[jefferie]

In 5 years? This is so tough because we never know who's gonna blow up out of no where. How about span of 3-7. Some possibilities I guess? Even though apparently everyone and their mom is wrong with their predictions because everyone has their panties in a bunch.
Bon Iver
Mumford and Sons
Muse
The Killers
Rage Against The Machine (Fingers Crossed)
The White Stripes
The Mars Volta
Foo Fighters
Coldplay
The Smashing Pumpkins
Rush
Outkast
Eminem
Drake (maybe with The Weeknd if he blows up)
Death Cab For Cutie (if they come through with an amazing album next time around)
RHCP (One last chance)
Some Amazing Superband that comes out of no where?
More and More reunions
Paul Mcartney and Ringo Starr playing with holograms of John and George as The Beatles (One can dream)
Incubus (this will never happen even though I think it should)
and a lot more I can't think of, etc.

Do you really think Paul and Ringo could headline in 5 years? I guess if they have some sort of break out album followed by another hit album.