b.) 8k is not that much most of the tickets were bought by people who want to go
c.) Ebay has the small time scalpers at the moment.
The "real" scalpers are smart and will sell the tickets when they can get more $$$. Hell they could be going for 1k plus down the line. Right know they seem to be around 700 or so.
If the shuttle passes weren't selling in sufficient quantities, then GV was in danger of not meeting its commitment to Indio, which could have legal / financial repercussions. So: in order to ensure that they at least look like they're complying with the requirements, they force people to buy shuttle tickets ... so they can say, look, we *sold* 15K shuttle tickets, it's not our fault people didn't use them.
Not thievery - politics.
there just aren't that many tickets left and they want to fill up their shuttles for sure.
if they have a complete sell out with out anyone buying shuttle passes, it makes the shuttle a waste of money for them.
The shuttles are a great idea....how many years have we wasted a hour walking from our car to the venue..the buses will probably bypass that completely.
Have we every got a confirmation that they are actually reducing attendance from 75,000 of last year?
That said, I think everyone who goes to the festival (and isn't camping) should care about people using the shuttle: the one year I didn't camp (2005), the traffic out of the venue at night was horrendous, and larger crowds would make this worse. Everyone's experience will be better the more people use shuttles to get to and from the venue.
I suppose it's only ~$50 though. Nothing horrific. It's just the idea that it's being forced pisses me off.
I find it very hard to believe they would lease additional land, add an extra stage, and then decrease capacity. But I'd love to be proven wrong.
It's not forced your stupidfuck..it's all that is left. You have had every oppurtunity to buy them and you didnt..you get what's left and that is a combo ticket with shuttle. It's only frustrating to you cos you didnt buy them earlier.
I think GV's public relations mistake here was in changing the rules of the game in the middle. If *everyone* had paid the +$50 and gotten a free shuttle pass, you wouldn't be reacting this way (although campers would be pissed).
On the other hand, that probably would have made it more difficult to demonstrate to Indio that they were doing something about traffic.
hum sounds it exactly like a ticket on ebay
a.) you are not forced to buy the ticket
b.) it is the only option left to get a ticket
c.) you could have bought them earlier (cheaper) through TM or layaway but you didn't
d.) you are stuck with what is left (tickets that cost more that face value)
e.) you are pissed because you did not buy the ticket cheaper
If you are going to get pissed at scalpers you should also get pissed at GV forcing you to buy something you do not want.
Gv is always a work in progress and when they fuck up, they are pretty good at fixing their issues.
i think it does suck that you can only buy a ticket with a shuttle pass. but hey, who knew it was gonna sell out this fast. this easily beats the 07 sellout!
The thought of going from free parking in previous years (or having it included in your ticket) to having to pay $50 to park offsite (driving to a lot and be shuttled in) probably is not the most ideal situation for some people. I think the $50 shuttles to/from local hotels makes sense (as offered by Valley Music Travel). But if this is just a lot that is close by that you still have to drive a distance to in order to park and be shuttled in, then that seems kind of shitty for that price.
But in the end, it was not like we weren't warned we were close to selling out. And I personally support any attempts to cut down on the shit ton of traffic in and out of the venue.
For your health
The implication here is that there are different buckets - standalone tickets, standalone tickets with shuttle, etc - and that there were so many tickets in each bucket from day one, and that one bucket is now empty.
That's not how I thought it had worked.
I thought there were so many tickets, and so many shuttle tickets, and that as the tickets sold and the shuttle tickets didn't, they discovered a problem and created a bundle as a solution.
Had my misunderstanding of the situation been correct, it would have been changing the rules of the game in the middle.