EDC 2011

[guedita]

But I DO think that, guedita!

Let me guess, you also think that you have the right to mention that a DJ messed up at the thing most crucial to DJing? Like you some sort of opinionated news journalist o something?

[LickTheLizzard]

We are way off topic. I would say you are right, there are other important elements to a set besides song selection and energy, I guess I just don't know what those elements are. Some are good. Some are bad. We are all entitled to our own opinion on which is which. Let's leave it at that.


and I'm still never going back to EDC....

[Mr. Dylanja]

Let me guess, you also think that you have the right to mention that a DJ messed up at the thing most crucial to DJing? Like you some sort of opinionated news journalist o something?

GET OUT OF MY HEAD

[Brochella]

Let me guess, you also think that you have the right to mention that a DJ messed up at the thing most crucial to DJing? Like you some sort of opinionated news journalist o something?

Playing good music isn't the thing most crucial element of DJing? News to me.

[tmac]

and I'm still never going back to EDC....

good for us, bad for you.

win butler fucked up royally the first night at the shrine. i loved every minute of it. artists are human they are bound to fuck up at some point.

[guedita]

Playing good music isn't the thing most crucial element of DJing? News to me.

Wow. Why the fuck hasn't EDC booked me? I make a bad ass playlist.

[Mr. Dylanja]

I've often asked myself that same question.

[Gribbz]

So.... what about non-electronic acts? Do you guys walk away when a guitar, bass player, or drummer has a minor slip up?

Anyone?

[guedita]

Having fingers or arms or other body parts that attach to some sort of button pressing device: also crucial.

[LickTheLizzard]

good for us, bad for you.

...and I hope you have a great time! The line-ups are ridiculous, and so is the production. Last year was just too much, and it was too bad of an experience to risk it again.

[Mr. Dylanja]

Anyone?

Everybody makes mistakes...

[Gribbz]

Everybody makes mistakes...

I see what you did there.

Mistakes are unacceptable.

[Brochella]

Wow. Why the fuck hasn't EDC booked me? I make a bad ass playlist.

Because "most crucial" and "only" mean the same thing, right?

[djandrews25]

I'm not saying you don't. People need to be educated, but it can be done without the huge ego trip. Reminding people about how superior your ear for good DJs is whenever you get the chance is not a very becoming quality.
...please don't misrepresent what I'm about.

I dont sugar-coat shit, so when you're going to tell me something that is completely false and then insist it's the truth im going to tell you how it is very bluntly. If the reason we're having the argument is because of your ignorance on the subject, that will also be known. Im just stating the obvious here, but why you go out of your way to defend shitty djs should be the topic. So, answer me this. If you're a dj and you hear a shitty set, how does it not bother you? I understand the people who dont have a trained ear not noticing slips, but you claim to have djed for 3 years and sets that sent me running for the beer garden you have defended.
This means one of two things. Either you have no fucking idea what you're talking about, or you dont care. Both void your analysis.

I don't claim to be an expert. I am not a DJ. I have never attempted to be a DJ. I think this is why I do not recognize small slips or mistakes. I can only judge a DJs performance by the energy in the room, and by the songs they play. I have seen train-wrecks (mostly local DNB DJs), but I do not consider Tiga's set a train-wreck.

To clarify, i didnt say his set was a trainwreck. I said he slipped several times. A slip turns into a trainwreck if the dj doesnt catch it. His set was good only when compared to the other terrible sets that were played that day. Tiga is a great producer, and an average dj.

[unknown]

Anyone?

If that minor slip up happens consistently and there is something else to check out, most definitely. When you go see a band and they fuck up, you would not go around saying it was a great set you would say that they kinda fucked up and weren't on point.

[Gribbz]

If that minor slip up happens consistently and there is something else to check out, most definitely. When you go see a band and they fuck up, you would not go around saying it was a great set you would say that they kinda fucked up and weren't on point.

I can understand mulitple slip ups. It sounded like you were saying you were "one and done."

[unknown]

No way, Matt. I'm not that big of an asshole.

Minor slip ups that happen several times during the set are going to cause me to walk away.

[djandrews25]

Playing good music isn't the thing most crucial element of DJing? News to me.

Playing good music is equal to how each song is delivered. I saw perry ferrel play good songs one year during his dj set, but he trainwrecked every mix. According to you, that set would be fine?

[Brochella]

I dont sugar-coat shit, so when you're going to tell me something that is completely false and then insist it's the truth im going to tell you how it is very bluntly. If the reason we're having the argument is because of your ignorance on the subject, that will also be known. Im just stating the obvious here, but why you go out of your way to defend shitty djs should be the topic. So, answer me this. If you're a dj and you hear a shitty set, how does it not bother you? I understand the people who dont have a trained ear not noticing slips, but you claim to have djed for 3 years and sets that sent me running for the beer garden you have defended.
This means one of two things. Either you have no fucking idea what you're talking about, or you dont care. Both void your analysis.

Or that I just don't stand there waiting for a DJ to fuck up when I'm intoxicated? Its hard for me to nitpick when I'm in those states of mind, and I usually give people the benefit of the doubt. Brochella-on-Drugz liked what Tiga and Erol brought to the table at HARD Summer, and that's the only time I've seen them, so of course I'm going to extrapolate that experience and use that as my basis for judging them. I'm not calling them the best DJs I've ever seen, just that they were enjoyable.

I don't think that invalidates my good word, but if it does in your eyes, so be it. It's not like we see eye to eye on most of this shit anyway.

Playing good music is equal to how each song is delivered. I saw perry ferrel play good songs one year during his dj set, but he trainwrecked every mix. According to you, that set would be fine?

Of course not. Like I implied to Guedita, "most crucial" is not synonymous with "only". Obviously, lots of forces come together to make a good DJ set, and proper programming and a big-picture understanding is key, but good music IS the universal constant in the DJ world.

[djandrews25]

Or that I just don't stand there waiting for a DJ to fuck up when I'm intoxicated? Its hard for me to nitpick when I'm in those states of mind, and I usually give people the benefit of the doubt. I liked what Tiga and Erol brought to the table at HARD Summer, and that's the only time I've seen them, so of course I'm going to extrapolate that experience and use that as my basis for judging them. I'm not calling them the best DJs I've ever seen, just that they were enjoyable.

Allow me to translate: You dont care.

Edit* after reading this post a second time i think its both.

[Distorted_Jungle]

So bottom line here, some of us are true electronic music enthusieasts and others are casual fans. I personally can deal with slip ups more than the average person, but they don't go unnoticed that's for sure. No DJ is perfect, there are some that are damn near perfect such as Adam Freeland, but even sometimes people like him make mistakes. Like others have said, it's when it's constant or the DJ doesn't adjust his mix to fix the issue. Anyone who saw Club 75 last year should know exactly what a trainwreck sounds like, that set was embarassing for anyone on that stage.

[Mr. Dylanja]

I run away from trainwrecks like Richard Kimble.

[Brochella]

So bottom line here, some of us are true electronic music enthusieasts and others are casual fans. I personally can deal with slip ups more than the average person, but they don't go unnoticed that's for sure. No DJ is perfect, there are some that are damn near perfect such as Adam Freeland, but even sometimes people like him make mistakes. Like others have said, it's when it's constant or the DJ doesn't adjust his mix to fix the issue. Anyone who saw Club 75 last year should know exactly what a trainwreck sounds like, that set was embarassing for anyone on that stage.

Yep, I feel the same way.

[Mr. Dylanja]

[tmac]

glad we settled that, now who will be headlining the two days?

Daft Punk and Justice (i fucking hope not, but they do have a mssive following amongst the many many brotronica fans in LA)?

[djandrews25]

lol D.

[Brochella]

Allow me to translate: You dont care.

Edit* after reading this post a second time i think its both.

It only took one read of this post for me to decide that you have a hilariously inflated opinion of yourself.

[djandrews25]

I havent talked about myself at all. Your analysis of me is equal to your analysis of edm. You are clueless.

[Brochella]

I havent talked about myself at all. Your analysis of me is equal to your analysis of edm. You are clueless.

*Hilariously inflated opinion of yourself based on your own perceived flawless interpretation of EDM and DJing. I thought that was implied, but please, carry on being a gigantic tool.

[djandrews25]

Im arguing with someone who admittedly has no idea what hes talking about and doesnt care about mixing skills about mixing skills. You're right i am a tool.