DEMF 2013

[adamjab]

As far as seeing Detroit:

There are techno bike tours here: http://www.wheelhousedetroit.com/tou...aspx?tourid=32

If you are awake on Saturday going to the Eastern Market is always good people watching. http://www.detroiteasternmarket.com/ Farm fresh fruit, homemade goods, stores, restaurants, artists galleries. Best pizza joint in the city is Suppinos right on the side of the market. Nice graffiti around there too. Plus bonus points if you see others walking around with a Movement wrist band! In fact this would be the most "authentic Detroit" experience.

Russell Industrial Center is a huge artists community. They have a bazaar open but I have heard the merch available isn't the best (thinks socks, belts and used CD/DVD's). But some of the artists there have their studios open to check out stuff. Haven't done this myself but there are legitimate galleries there. http://ricdetroit.org/2010/?id=home

Guardian building lobby is a sight to behold. It's right downtown. Couple clothing stores and coffee shops in there as well.

Heidelberg would be a short cab away from the city but is always pretty cool. http://www.heidelberg.org/

Just walking around the midtown area (where old miami is) is neat. It's thriving again. A few stores, restaurants, wayne state university, DIA, Historical museum, artist galleries are all in this area. http://detroitmidtown.com/05/directory.php?msub=6

For the good Christians out there there are many architecturally fascinating churches in the downtown and surrounding areas. Sweetest Heart of Mary, Old St. Mary's, SS peter and paul jesuit, holy trinity etc. etc. Google those names or historic detroit churches and you could spend a day checking them out!

As far as seeing the abandoned buildings:

I don't do it but it is done quite often. Do be careful and it is not recommended. Some moron, and it happens about once a month, had to get rescued from falling down a few flights of stairs in the train station last week. Plus in most of the buildings illegal scrapping is going on and you don't want to get caught up with those people. Also most of the buildings in and around downtown are either being rehabbed, have been torn down, or are better secured lately. (Places I have heard lately require ladders to get in and dodging security guards.) You have to go some of the outlying warehouse areas and most of those buildings aren't all that significant really and are more dangerous and loaded with scrappers. If you want to go back home saying you walked around an abandoned building in Detroit go ahead and give it a shot I guess, but it could be a quick way to end your weekend.

Restaurants that I can recommend:

Downtown: Detroit Beer Co., Suppinos, Mudgies Deli, Russel St. Deli, Bucharest Grill, Slows BBQ, Small Plates (if you want a nice night out), American or Lafayette coney islands, Grand Trunk Pub (A.K.A. Foran's-they'll have technos throughout the weekend with awesome Michigan microbrews!!!), above Grand Trunk Pub is Motor City wine for the vino lovers out there and they are also techno music friendly, Jacoby's for good beer. Any of the bars downtown will always have a decent burger available otherwise google the rest of the places for locations and hours.

Midtown: Honest John's Bar, Union Street, Avalon Bread Co., Cass Cafe, Byblos, Slows BBQ to go (much quicker than the sit down restaurant) Motor City Brew Works (they supply the beer for Need I Say More), Traffic Jam and Snug. There are a bunch more places near the university that I am not sure will be open because the students won't be there.

Have fun! As with any city travel in a group, don't look or act like a moron.

[chiapet]

Grand Trunk Pub/Motor City Wine is how we kind of ruined our Friday night last year. Thanks a lot, Carl Craig.

And yea, I'm hesitant to suggest prowling about abandoned buildings, but I know tons of people who've done it and no one has had a problem. I wouldn't go by myself, or at night. I think SoulDischarge would make a good bodyguard.

[SoulDischarge]

I went into Packard Plant at night and was just fine. Although I wasn't alone . . . And Heidi, you're forgetting I'm kind of a pussy.

Thanks for all the recs though! I scheduled myself to get in Thursday so I could have some non-DEMF related Detroit time.

[chiapet]

You *look* intimidating though.

[Karl Malone]

I went into Packard Plant at night and was just fine. Although I wasn't alone . . . And Heidi, you're forgetting I'm kind of a pussy.

Thanks for all the recs though! I scheduled myself to get in Thursday so I could have some non-DEMF related Detroit time.

Totally hit SLOWS if your looking for some BBQ. If you have a chance, hit the Heidelberg Project, totally worth it.

[Karl Malone]

Totally hit SLOWS if your looking for some BBQ. If you have a chance, hit the Heidelberg Project, totally worth it.

NM, you already mentioned it on the last page. Glad you have seen it. The old car plants are worth exploring. Security might be a bit heightened though since its the biggest weekend in Detroit. A Tigers game should be on peoples radar too, its actually not a bad place to see a game. There is another great art space too, can't remember the name though, but it is off the beaten path...gets really gritty at night though.

[Tupper]

Wow. Thanks. I'm not sure what yet, but I'm going to do something culturally relevant to absolve myself for all the nonsense the rest of trip.

[chiapet]

Well, frankly, I think your main purpose for the trip is culturally relevant. If you doubt me, you should check out that techno bike tour that was mentioned.

I pay tribute to Detroit by listening to Motown and techno while getting trashed each morning in the hotel.

[boarderwoozel3]

And another one:
http://www.residentadvisor.net/event.aspx?366202

[chiapet]

Tempting. Circo Loco was a lot of fun last year.

[myvelouria94]

can a richie or minus show be expected during the weekend?

[boarderwoozel3]

Richie pops up pretty much every year in one form or another but apparently often announces his parties very late. Also, a while back the DEMF facebook page operator hinted at him being around the festival in some capacity, for what it's worth.

Failing that, Items & Things is essentially M-nus 2.0 (Magda, Troy Pierce, Marc Houle) so you can get your fix at the Down & Out party.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

Pros and Cons of Downtown Westin vs Downtown Marriott Courtyard: GO

[boarderwoozel3]

Westin
Pro: My Crew is in the Westin
Pro: Not a Mariott

Mariott
Con: My crew is in the Westin
Con: Mariott

[chiapet]

Marriott Courtyard is like across the street from Hart Plaza. Haven't heard anything bad about it. But, everything is pretty close.

I think most of us are staying in what has been dubbed the "Troubletree"

[chiapet]

And I am almost certain that boarder's "crew" is way more trouble than you're looking to get into that weekend.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

ZOMG CHIA HAVE YOU SEEN MOLLY

[boarderwoozel3]

I've got tons of MDNA if you're into that kind of thing...

[guedita]

Pros and Cons of Downtown Westin vs Downtown Marriott Courtyard: GO

One of them is likely closer to the guedita curated TV/MOVIE AFTERPARTY SATURDAY NIGHT

[grannock]

I've got tons of MDNA if you're into that kind of thing...

Should bring those babys to a sperm bank and get fertalizing

[boarderwoozel3]

And for your Monday evening entertainment... because guedita has to run out of movies sometime.

http://www.residentadvisor.net/event.aspx?366596

[chiapet]

Oh man. I just realized that is the venue that was hopelessly oversold last year, for the Magda party I never got into. If going to this, probably want to get over there ASAP after the fest.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

Im a DEMF outsider, but it appears to me there are several channels through which one may party.

[Aurgasm]

Just curious. Where has there been any mention of Need I Say More going on outside of this thread? I can't find any info. about it. I know it's gone on for many years but haven't seen anything for Detroit. Or is it one of those things just show up and it will be there?

I spoke with Ryan Crosson about this in January and he kind of laughed in disbelief when I asked him if it was happening.

Ahem.

dude, craziness

I want to spend a few hours checking out Detroit, not in a disaster-porn kinda way, but an small attempt to actually see the place. Any locals have any suggestions?

I just had to make up a story to explain my hysterical laughter. thank you

As far as seeing Detroit:

There are techno bike tours here: http://www.wheelhousedetroit.com/tou...aspx?tourid=32

If you are awake on Saturday going to the Eastern Market is always good people watching. http://www.detroiteasternmarket.com/ Farm fresh fruit, homemade goods, stores, restaurants, artists galleries. Best pizza joint in the city is Suppinos right on the side of the market. Nice graffiti around there too. Plus bonus points if you see others walking around with a Movement wrist band! In fact this would be the most "authentic Detroit" experience.

Russell Industrial Center is a huge artists community. They have a bazaar open but I have heard the merch available isn't the best (thinks socks, belts and used CD/DVD's). But some of the artists there have their studios open to check out stuff. Haven't done this myself but there are legitimate galleries there. http://ricdetroit.org/2010/?id=home

Guardian building lobby is a sight to behold. It's right downtown. Couple clothing stores and coffee shops in there as well.

Heidelberg would be a short cab away from the city but is always pretty cool. http://www.heidelberg.org/

Just walking around the midtown area (where old miami is) is neat. It's thriving again. A few stores, restaurants, wayne state university, DIA, Historical museum, artist galleries are all in this area. http://detroitmidtown.com/05/directory.php?msub=6

For the good Christians out there there are many architecturally fascinating churches in the downtown and surrounding areas. Sweetest Heart of Mary, Old St. Mary's, SS peter and paul jesuit, holy trinity etc. etc. Google those names or historic detroit churches and you could spend a day checking them out!

As far as seeing the abandoned buildings:

I don't do it but it is done quite often. Do be careful and it is not recommended. Some moron, and it happens about once a month, had to get rescued from falling down a few flights of stairs in the train station last week. Plus in most of the buildings illegal scrapping is going on and you don't want to get caught up with those people. Also most of the buildings in and around downtown are either being rehabbed, have been torn down, or are better secured lately. (Places I have heard lately require ladders to get in and dodging security guards.) You have to go some of the outlying warehouse areas and most of those buildings aren't all that significant really and are more dangerous and loaded with scrappers. If you want to go back home saying you walked around an abandoned building in Detroit go ahead and give it a shot I guess, but it could be a quick way to end your weekend.

Restaurants that I can recommend:

Downtown: Detroit Beer Co., Suppinos, Mudgies Deli, Russel St. Deli, Bucharest Grill, Slows BBQ, Small Plates (if you want a nice night out), American or Lafayette coney islands, Grand Trunk Pub (A.K.A. Foran's-they'll have technos throughout the weekend with awesome Michigan microbrews!!!), above Grand Trunk Pub is Motor City wine for the vino lovers out there and they are also techno music friendly, Jacoby's for good beer. Any of the bars downtown will always have a decent burger available otherwise google the rest of the places for locations and hours.

Midtown: Honest John's Bar, Union Street, Avalon Bread Co., Cass Cafe, Byblos, Slows BBQ to go (much quicker than the sit down restaurant) Motor City Brew Works (they supply the beer for Need I Say More), Traffic Jam and Snug. There are a bunch more places near the university that I am not sure will be open because the students won't be there.

Have fun! As with any city travel in a group, don't look or act like a moron.

Thanks for posting!!!!

can a richie or minus show be expected during the weekend?

the magic 8 ball says- yes

Oh man. I just realized that is the venue that was hopelessly oversold last year, for the Magda party I never got into. If going to this, probably want to get over there ASAP after the fest.

but they didnt do presales last year, did they? i dont remember

[chiapet]

They did presales. I had one. The problem was that they also did door sales, and did not hold enough spots for people with pre-sales to gain admission. They didn't even have a separate line for people with pre-sales versus people just trying to pay at the door.

So, I would definitely suggest getting there early. The first time I tried to go was at like midnight and it was already mobbed with people.

[boarderwoozel3]

The KMS 25 undercard got filled out a bit more today. And as mentioned previously, crushing.

[grannock]

Yep, gonna do kms cause that gives me every detroit act i want to see in one place.

[Karl Malone]

The KMS party looks rad, but I wish it was more of a throwback style event. Some of the buildings that they used to have parites at are intact and empty. Something raw and gritty would be nice. Im not one of those anti-corporate types, but c'mon: red bull, beatport, traktor, beatsme, etc? Seems to be missing the point of what the creators of techno had in mind when they, you know, created techno. My biggest fear with this is that they will be using some bullshit DJ tool like Serato, or Traktor, instead of the original vinyl these guys made.

[chiapet]

They don't have to spin vinyl to put on a good set. I've seen about half of that lineup in the last 2 years, and they all put on great sets. Stacey Pullen and Mike Huckaby in particular will be great supporting acts for this.

[guedita]

The KMS party looks rad, but I wish it was more of a throwback style event. Some of the buildings that they used to have parites at are intact and empty. Something raw and gritty would be nice. Im not one of those anti-corporate types, but c'mon: red bull, beatport, traktor, beatsme, etc? Seems to be missing the point of what the creators of techno had in mind when they, you know, created techno. My biggest fear with this is that they will be using some bullshit DJ tool like Serato, or Traktor, instead of the original vinyl these guys made.

What's St. Andrews like as a venue?