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    Sure, I don't have anything specific in mind.

    Boris - 7/29 - The Mohawk
    NIN/Soundgarden/ - 8/14 - Austin 360
    Woods - 8/20 - Holy Mountain
    Jamie xx - 8/27 - The Mohawk
    Little Dragon - 8/31 - Moody Theater
    Ty Segall - 9/5 - The Mohawk
    Seth Troxler - 9/5 - Vulcan Gas Company
    Black Lips/King Khan & BBQ Show - 9/12 - J. Lorraine Ghost Town

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    Start with early(1963-65) Bob Marley and the Wailers stuff recorded at Studio One. Most people don't realize that Bob was a rudeboy before he was a Rasta. Bob, Bunny and Peter had shaved heads, black suits + black sunglasses + black ties...fucking gangsters!

    Then check out the other Studio One artists.

    I also highly recommend The Skatalites, Desmond Dekker, Toots & the Maytals and HEPCAT!!

    Start from the roots and work your way up from there if inspired.

    There are a lot of bands that are labeled as ska that either ARE NOT or just complete disgraces to the genre.


    This is from an Amazon review and is pretty spot on in my opinion.

    There are four kinds of ska:

    1. Traditional aka 'first wave' (60's Jamaica) (ex. Skatalites, Desmond Dekker, Toots & The Maytals).

    2. Rocksteady (late 60's Jamaican music with a tempo between the Skatalites and reggae) (ex. Phylis Dillon, Alton Ellis, Ken Booth, The Gaylads, The Paragons, Jackie Mittoo and Tommy McCook after the Skatalites broke up).

    3. 'Two-Tone' aka 'second wave' (early 80's British ska revival) (ex. English Beat, Bad Manners, Madness, The Specials, Selector),

    4. Neo-trad (90's traditional style) (ex. Jazz Jamaica, The Slackers, Hepcat, The Toasters, Tokyo Ska Paradise Orchestra)


    Recommended albums:

    Streets of Ska compilation
    Foundation Ska by The Skatalites
    Israelites: Best of 1963-1971 by Desmond Dekker
    Best of Studio One Collection compilation
    The Specials by The Specials
    Out Of Nowhere and/or Scientific by Hepcat

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    Operation Ivy - Energy
    Best ska/punk record ever made. Start here.

    Catch 22 - Keasbey Nights

    Reel Big Fish - Turn the Radio Off

    The Suicide Machines - A Match and Some Gasoline or Destruction by Definition
    - These guys kind of fall much more on the punk/hardcore side of things, but that's very much where the genre has gone.

    The Toasters - Thrill Me Up
    - The Toasters were the forefathers of what the ska movement was to become. Definitely straddle the line of the older 2-tone stuff.

    The Aquabats! - The Fury of the Aquabats!
    - People love or hate the antics and message of the band, but while they were trying to parody/lampoon the genre they created some of its best songs.

    No Doubt - Tragic Kingdom
    - Believe it or not, they are one of the best ska groups in recent year if you hide from their pop song efforts and Gwen's solo stuff. Perfect album.

    Save Ferris - It Means Everything or Modified
    - More female vocalists stuff. SOOOOOO good. If only there was more then the 2 records.

    Mustard Plug - Evildoers Beware!


    K so this is more of what I like more then anything, but a good place to start.

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    Much obliged, gentleman. This should keep me busy for a while.

    Boris - 7/29 - The Mohawk
    NIN/Soundgarden/ - 8/14 - Austin 360
    Woods - 8/20 - Holy Mountain
    Jamie xx - 8/27 - The Mohawk
    Little Dragon - 8/31 - Moody Theater
    Ty Segall - 9/5 - The Mohawk
    Seth Troxler - 9/5 - Vulcan Gas Company
    Black Lips/King Khan & BBQ Show - 9/12 - J. Lorraine Ghost Town

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    Definitely Destruction by Definition in terms of Suicide Machines if ska is the mission. A Match and Some Gasoline is much heavier, less ska. But listen to both.

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    Yeah, that's why I included both. I'd be turned off pretty quick going through some bands catalouges looking for more ska.

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    I wanted to add this compilation to the Rocksteady list because it is incredible; lots of the artists higgybaby23 mentioned and a few others too.

    Quote Originally Posted by roberto73 View Post
    I'd contribute to this discussion but I'm still busy reminiscing about the halcyon days of punk. You know, the mid-90s.

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    Cool. Good timing. I've been beefing up my reggae/ska collection lately.

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    Cutter's list is a perfect example of how broad the ska umbrella can be. I personally wouldn't include No Doubt or Save Ferris in a ska list, but to each there own. I'm not familiar with all of the groups on the list, but I would call it a ska-punk list based on what I know.

    If you've never heard Operation Ivy, then you will finally here where Sublime ripped off their sound. I also endorse The Toasters and Mustard Plug.

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    That op ivy album is the only ska album I've ever owned. it was really good - I hated sublime at the time too - I still hate sublime. Early no doubt is ska and save ferris is just pitiful.

    God bless the specials though. I'm going to go buy the recommended album.
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    Quote Originally Posted by higgybaby23 View Post
    Cutter's list is a perfect example of how broad the ska umbrella can be. I personally wouldn't include No Doubt or Save Ferris in a ska list, but to each there own. I'm not familiar with all of the groups on the list, but I would call it a ska-punk list based on what I know.

    If you've never heard Operation Ivy, then you will finally here where Sublime ripped off their sound. I also endorse The Toasters and Mustard Plug.
    I would have included Dance Hall Crashers and Choking Victim over Save Ferris and No Doubt in a punk/ska list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by higgybaby23 View Post
    Cutter's list is a perfect example of how broad the ska umbrella can be. I personally wouldn't include No Doubt or Save Ferris in a ska list, but to each there own. I'm not familiar with all of the groups on the list, but I would call it a ska-punk list based on what I know.

    If you've never heard Operation Ivy, then you will finally here where Sublime ripped off their sound. I also endorse The Toasters and Mustard Plug.
    I can accept the ska-punk label, but I think for the most part is what Ska has become. The third wave, starting in the late 80's coming from The Toasters and all of Moon Ska records and all that 90's-00s stuff is what was/is around. I'm not aware of more then a handful that keep more of the original sounds.

    It was I grew up with, so it's what I recommended. I've always found it easy to go back from the newer things because so much is still present if you listen closely.

    But yeah, the umbrella can get big and sometimes when bands move away from it, it's a big turn off. For example, I don't really fancy much Real Big Fish's later career because they go for more of the punk side and it falls flat. But some people like the punk stuff when the ska bridge comes in or keeps the trumpets. So versatile to go from light to heavy.

    Op Ivy is perfect. If you can, get the self titled anthology which has some of their ep's tacked on to the end of Energy. The best "1 and done" band of all time IMO.

    This is the easy pick, but you can't tell me this isn't "ska"



    Quote Originally Posted by Drinkey McDrinkerstein View Post
    I would have included Dance Hall Crashers and Choking Victim over Save Ferris and No Doubt in a punk/ska list.
    Not familiar with Dance Hall Crashers, but I always think of Chocking Victim as a hardcore punk group that listened to ska on the side. Great stuff, but wouldn't recommend it for someone growing their collection. A "they'll get to it someday" kind of thing.
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    How can you just make a Ska Punk list and not talk about LEFTOVER CRACK.
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    Isn't there some awful hardcore band you should be listening to?

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    Singer has always annoyed me... I have a friend who always had them as a favorite. They okay.

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    They're not very good, but they were such a part of my Freshman year.

    I get the complaints though. It took me forever to just get passed those kind of vocals.

    But seriously man:


    /nostalgia
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZachTheEskimo View Post
    How can you just make a Ska Punk list and not talk about LEFTOVER CRACK.
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    They're not very good
    /nostalgia
    Alright...

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    Zach I assume you're also familiar with the predecessor Choking Victim?


    Of course, for every jokey song they have they have some really fucking brilliant ones
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    What kind of adolescent do you take me as, Drinky? Of course I know Choking Victim.
    This is the shit I listened to in Junior High.. haha.
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    Also, for no real related reason i want to recommend Evan Drokin's ska-themed science fiction comic Pirate Corp$/Hectic Planet, which was fucking awesome.


    Dorkin was heavily involved in the NY ska scene in the '80s and drew from a bunch of his experiences for this book.

    He did a lot of fun record covers too

    http://rateyourmusic.com/list/darb32...by_evan_dorkin
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZachTheEskimo View Post
    What kind of adolescent do you take me as, Drinky? Of course I know Choking Victim.
    This is the shit I listened to in Junior High.. haha.
    It just seemed weird to mention Leftover Crack first...what thread were we just talking about LC/CV in like 2 days ago? Was that just earlier in here hahaha

    And Junior High? Yeesh, I was 17 when No Gods, No Managers came out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drinkey McDrinkerstein View Post
    It just seemed weird to mention Leftover Crack first...what thread were we just talking about LC/CV in like 2 days ago? Was that just earlier in here hahaha

    And Junior High? Yeesh, I was 17 when No Gods, No Managers came out
    It might've been here. I didn't see it so I really have no frame of reference.

    I don't like mentioning how old I was when I heard things for that specific reason. :/
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    hahahaha no worries
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    Anyways, yeah Choking Victim/Leftover Crack is my shit. There was a period of time where Mediocre Generica was stuck in my friends car's cd player and that's all we could listen to for like 3 or 4 months.
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    I'm totally wearing my F-Minus Suburban Blight shirt right now.
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    punk rawk
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    Some more randomness...


    So going through what.cd similar artists maps reminded me of these guys. Which reminded me I have not played THPS in a long time.

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    Holy fucking shit I used to LOOOOOOVE Goldfinger. I remember requesting "Here In Your Bedroom" from KROQ so i could tape it. I saw them several times, so much fun live! Hang-Ups is such a fantastic album, still.
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    Tony Hawk games turned me on to a lot of good stuff. I got so many cd's based on one song, and they were always great. Hang-Ups is great, as is their s/t. It's weird how you totally don't recall so much of this for a long time.

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    it's funny how influential THPS was on peoples music tastes. It's like the old school Grand Theft Auto.
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