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    Don't just post a list of 10 albums.
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    Video terrible. Song great.

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    I need to look at my darkwave / ethereal wave collection and I'll be back here tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeklymix View Post
    I need to look at my darkwave / ethereal wave collection and I'll be back here tonight.
    That would be nice.

    I'd love a dreampop and/or shoegaze breakdown too.
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    10 classic/essential Post-Punk records
    Disclaimer:
    There were a couple artists/releases that I left off for my own reasoning (i.e. XTC, This Heat, Throbbing Gristle, Pink Flag, Suicide, The Undertones, etc.). They just didn't feel right in the context of this list. I kind of felt the same way about Mission of Burma, but decided to leave them on. Deal with it.


    10. Pere Ubu - Dub Housing/The Modern Dance (take your pick)

    This song may not be on either of the albums I listed, but if you honestly are really interested in listening to this band then just watch. No human lexicon can put it more into focus than Dave Thomas himself.

    9. The Fall - This Nations Saving Grace

    The Fall... where to begin... where to end? This is probably the groups most cohesive effort, making it the most essential and accessible. Mark E. Smith is worshiped in LA. It seems like you can't go to a small show in the downtown/hollywood area and NOT here either his name or Jonathan Richman's name dropped anymore. Not complaining, I just find it a funny cliché.
    8. No New York - No New York/Brian Eno

    I am fully aware that the inclusion of this is completely contradictory to the above disclaimer, this doesn't really fit my purist post-punk definition. It is No Wave. It is CALLED No New York for a reason. Having said that, I feel like it fits in nicely on this list (I'm really going on feel here). Oh, and this is a compilation. It is a Brian Eno produced sampler that features multiple songs by four artists. Those artist were Contortions, Teenage Jesus and the Jerks, Mars, and (most notably) DNA. The reason I say most notably is because Arto Lindsay's guitar playing is why I called you all here today. Just listen to it, and I won't half to explain any farther.
    7. Young Marble Giants - Colossal Youth

    Sometimes you have to take a step back to take a step forward, because to reconstruct you gotta simplify. Young Marble Giants were the masters of simplifying. But, you can throw out all the "less is more" idioms you want, whether consciously or not, this album throws on a dauntless visage and comes off as, dare-I-say-it, epic. Maybe that is why they call it Colossal Youth...
    6. Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures

    Pfffft... yeah right. Like I'm gonna write a synopsis on this album. It's good, go listen to it.
    5. Mission of Burma - Vs.

    Personally, I think Signals, Calls and Marches is their best work, it's technically an EP, so I'll play by the rules of the long play and disqualify it. Mission of Burma were a four-piece rock group from Boston who were really good at one thing, rocking my socks off. Now before you go off to Youtube to look at some live footage, you have to realize one thing. They had four memebers, but only three were on stage. The fourth hid behind the sound board and played with Tape machines, taking in what was going down on stage and spitting back out into the main speakers, creating phantom sounds and instruments. Now you might not think it this was a brave decision on their part, but quite the contrary, it was insanely risky. Not only did it make every individual show unique, but it created an air of mystery for the audience members scratching their heads wondering who was controlling those weird looping phrases. But, as you are probably starting to come to grips with, this didn't go over well every night, there is a lot of luck involved with this practice and if it went wrong it, it was a disaster. This is why Mission of Burma were so un-rightfully labeled an inconsistent or bad live band, divine and untouchable one night, screeching and dreadful the next. It's a shame they still don't take those kind of risks live since reuniting...
    4. The Pop Group - Y

    The Pop Group were sort of like the musical equivalent of yellow journalism. I'm not saying what they were wrong, they weren't, but did they have to be so damn zealous? If you want some sort of grasp of what they sound like, just imagine if Gang of Four were produced by Lee "Scratch" Perry and Albert Ayler was directing the horn section.
    3. Public Image Ltd. - Second Edition/Metal Box

    When I saw PiL on their last tour, Mr. Lydon emphasized precision. That's it really. They were the first, at least as far as I'm aware, punk band who shot snot at sloppiness. But he's right, what makes The Slits more punk than the repetitious nature of Can? What makes The Undertones more punk than the vocal experimentation of Tim Buckley? Nothing, god dammit.
    2. Wire - 154

    I've always thought of Colin Newman and Bruce Gibert as just a couple of savvy music nerds, I just can't imagine them creating music this good, so impressive for it's time, on accident. They didn't just fall out of bed and create this stuff, and despite what Pink Flag may lead you to believe, this stuff was tirelessly calculated. I don't think any singular group of artists evaluated their modern musical landscape as often Wire did.
    1. Gang of Four - Entertainment

    Much like what Television did with Marquee Moon, Gang of Four created a transcendent guitar album. It was important, and it was influential, and it was inspiring, and it was momentous, and it was blah blah blah blha... Here is the most important adjective that is all too often skipped over, it was fun. To this day, whenever I first pick up a guitar, I'll instantly belt out that wonderful opening riff of "Ether". I don't really have control over this reaction, it has just gotten to the point where it'll happen on its own. This stuff'll get under your skin.
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    I think we can handle at least 3 more punk lists.

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    You mean like New York Punk/New Wave 1976-1978? something like that? is that a narrow enough niche? if so do you include Suicide or not?
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    Suicide goes in the Synth-Elvis list, duh...

    Seriously though, I have no idea where I would put them without feeling like I'm stretching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinylmartyr View Post
    I think we can handle at least 3 more punk lists.
    would you like to do a free jazz list?
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    Someone do a No Wave list, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jman4321 View Post
    Suicide goes in the Synth-Elvis list, duh...

    Seriously though, I have no idea where I would put them without feeling like I'm stretching.
    I was about to say No-Wave... but even that is stretching it.
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    I might do New York First Wave and West Coast First Wave lists. I could probably tackle No Wave too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amyzzz View Post
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    Shut the fuck up Brandon.

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    Ramones, Patti Smith, Blondie, Television, Talking Heads, Richard Hell & the Voidoids, Dead Boys, Heartbreakers.
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    Oh. I meant the other New York.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still-ill View Post
    would you like to do a free jazz list?
    I can do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoulDischarge View Post
    Shut the fuck up Brandon.
    It was in your words.

    For the first shoegaze "scene that celebrates itself" 90's stuff, I got

    1 My Bloody Valentine Loveless
    2 Catherine Wheel Ferment
    3 Lush Gala
    4 Curve Blindfold EP
    5 Ride Nowhere
    6 Chapterhouse Whirlpool
    7 Swervedriver Mezcal Head

    There's a lot of other stuff (Slowdive, Boo Radleys, Telescopes, Verve) that I didn't get into as much, but these were the best. And I'm not sure about throwing JAMC and Cocteaus on here because they seem like a different genre to me.
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    Because fucking millenials that's what

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    These are a good starting point for Free Jazz.

    Albert Ayler Spiritual Unity
    Eric Dolphy Out To Lunch
    Archie Shepp Fire Music
    Ornette Coleman This Is Our Music
    John Coltrane Ascension
    Sun Ra (anything on El Saturn)
    Cecil Taylor Unit Structures
    Peter Brotzmann Machine Gun
    Pharaoh Sanders Karma
    Dave Burrell Echo

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    Jeff what is your opinion of the Art Ensemble of Chicago? not worthy of your list?
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    I cant be bothered to follow the parameters of the thread. Maybe later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinylmartyr View Post
    These are a good starting point for Free Jazz.

    Albert Ayler Spiritual Unity
    Eric Dolphy Out To Lunch
    Archie Shepp Fire Music
    Ornette Coleman This Is Our Music
    John Coltrane Ascension
    Sun Ra (anything on El Saturn)
    Cecil Taylor Unit Structures
    Peter Brotzmann Machine Gun
    Pharaoh Sanders Karma
    Dave Burrell Echo
    No Don Cherry? Ouch.
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    Don Cherry played on that Ornette Album.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomAz View Post
    Jeff what is your opinion of the Art Ensemble of Chicago? not worthy of your list?
    Just not familiar.

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    I'd like to see a Post-Hardcore list.
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    Art Ensemble of Chicago is not worthy. Great list Jeff, I might have selected a different Taylor album... And probably would leave Sun Ra off... And maybe Free Jazz instead of This Is Our Music... But you nailed it.

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    "Aside from these 3 glaring errors in your post, you nailed it." haha
    8/28 - Ty Segall - Echo
    8/31 - Sleep - Troubadour (?)
    9/05 - The Rentals - Fonda (?)
    9/11 - Swans - Roxy
    9/13 - Owen Pallett - El Rey (?)


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    no they aren't glaring errors... at all even. sun ra is the only one i'm truly not big on. the rest are just small preferential things that i'm not even certain I'd change... the meat is there. the coleman album is a toss up and that cecil taylor album would make my short list.

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    I know, just giving you a hard time.
    8/28 - Ty Segall - Echo
    8/31 - Sleep - Troubadour (?)
    9/05 - The Rentals - Fonda (?)
    9/11 - Swans - Roxy
    9/13 - Owen Pallett - El Rey (?)


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    I finally made it through a listen of Sun Kil Moon - Benji and had put it on maybe 4 times til I could finally feel mentally like, "just fuck it just let this guy blabber on" while I'm doing paperwork .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Still-ill View Post
    I'd like to see a Post-Hardcore list.
    That's sort of what Brandon did, but I could probably do a less emo-centric one.
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