Nine Inch Nails Vs. Tool

[Bendulum]

Many fans of NIN also happen to be fans of Tool, and vice-versa. Taking into account their live performances and albums, is it possible to say which is better overall?

[daxton]

I don't understand the point of these polls.

[Cdubby]

NIN

[psycobetabuckdown]

Um well, to answer your question, yes. Tool is better live, and Tool makes generally better music and has a higher ratio of good to bad material than does NIN.

[obzen]

Tool, but not by much I suppose.

[Bendulum]

Tool makes generally better music and has a higher ratio of good to bad material than does NIN.

Is it easier to say that, since NIN has a great deal more material released than Tool?
Perhaps it appears there are more NIN songs considering that there are plenty of remixes of NIN tracks.

[Bendulum]

And Obzen, is your name an allusion to Meshuggah?

[amyzzz]

Tool is too hard for me.

[daxton]

That's what she said.

[amyzzz]

That was a gentle lob headed your way.

[daxton]

Mmmmm gentle lobs.

[Bendulum]

Tool is too hard for me.

As in, 'heavy' or 'complicated' ?

[daxton]

Haha. Really?

[Bendulum]

You never know with someone who throws lobs.

[Bendulum]

Perhaps I should have been more specific and asked: Tool's Lateralus tour vs. NIN's Lights in The Sky tour.

[sin213]

overall...tool is probably best. but when you take into account the last 4 years or so of tool vs what nin has done, nin probably is the best recently, mainly cause of maynards attitude and the uninspired setlists they've had recently.

now if you're asking what is better, Tool Lateralus tour or NIN LITS....that's a tough one. visually, i think LITS was better as well as the overall production. but the tool lateralus tour was SOLID. not as crazy of visuals as LITS, but their music/setlist selections that tour were perfect.

if i HAD to pick. i'd pick tool. but they only beat out NIN by a cunthair.

[getbetter]

NIN> Tool

Tool would never play a whole album or play 38-40 song setlists.

[Bendulum]

Tool would never play a whole album or play 38-40 song setlists.

It's no longer possible for Tool to play a whole album since Maynard cannot perform certain songs anymore (e.g. 20-second scream on The Grudge, Ticks and Leeches, or Eulogy).
As well, although some of NIN's song are long, not all of them are; whereas the songs that Tool performs now are typically much longer and have extended versions. 40 songs by Tool would equate to a 5 or 6 hour show...

More on duration of the show, 3 hours would pushit for Tool. There would have to be longer synth interludes between songs I suppose, or a 30 minute long intermission with ambience like the most recent tour.

[sin213]

NIN> Tool

Tool would never play a whole album or play 38-40 song setlists.

as of recent, i'd tend to agree with you. overall though? tough call.

and i'd put 38-40 song setlists past Tool...but i could see them bustin out an album someday.

[getbetter]

Plus NIN has had David bowie as a guest.

tool would have like tricky or Jello Biafra at the best Zack deroacha

Sin what tour should i look up to see the larger setlists for Tool

[obzen]

And Obzen, is your name an allusion to Meshuggah?

No, I came up with obZen - I hate Meshuggah; they stole my idea.




Cool story, huh?

[obzen]

Tool would never play a whole album or play 38-40 song setlists.

Really though, it doesn't mean dick.




It means Tool.

[Bendulum]

That's wild!

EDIT: your story, Obzen

[Bendulum]

Larger setlists for Tool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrLNG...eature=related

Check the drop box below the video.

[psycobetabuckdown]

Is it easier to say that, since NIN has a great deal more material released than Tool?
Perhaps it appears there are more NIN songs considering that there are plenty of remixes of NIN tracks.

Yes, in a way, but Tool expressly choose not to release material more often because they want to ensure that when they do release an album, it's actually good. At least Maynard has said that; I'm sure the other members would gladly put out albums every two years, but Maynard won't do it.

I'm not saying they're perfect. 10,000 days was pretty good but not great. However, NIN has released some pure shit at various times. I still love a lot of Trent's stuff but even the stuff I do like isn't as interesting as Tool to me.

I missed both Lateralus tour and LITS tour so I can't really speak to those live shows. But I saw NIN with Jane's Addiction and I've seen Tool four times, and each of those four times was much better than the NIN show.

[getbetter]

Larger setlists for Tool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrLNG...eature=related

Check the drop box below the video.

Tool
Tacoma, WA
Tacoma Dome
11-08-'01

Setlist:

01. Tuva
02. The Grudge
03. (-)Ions
04. Stinkfist (Extended)
05. Ticks And Leeches
06. Parabola (No Parabol, But There Is A Parabol-Like Intro)
07. Pushit (Salival Version)
08. Schism (With Guests From Osseus Labyrint)
09. Merkaba
10. Disposition
11. Reflection (With Guest: Tricky)
12. Intermission (With Guests From Osseus Labyrint)
13. Triad (With Guests From Osseus Labyrint: Along With -----Tricky And Danny Lohner)
14. Eon Blue Apocalypse
15. The Patient
16. Opiate (With Guest:Tricky)
17. Lateralus (Positive Speech/Wings For Marie Intro)


does not equal this

Nine Inch Nails Concert at The Forum, Inglewood, CA,
Sept 8th 2008

999,999
1,000,000
Letting You
Discipline
March of the Pigs
Head Down
The Frail
Closer
Gave Up
The Warning
Vessel
5 Ghosts I
17 Ghosts II
19 Ghosts III
Piggy
The Greater Good
Pinion
Wish
Terrible Lie
Survivalism
The Big Come Down
31 Ghosts IV
Only
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like a Hole
Encore:
Echoplex
Reptile
God Given
Hurt
30)In This Twilight

[donkey sex]

that NIN show at Coachella was so fucking incredible. Looked like it was set on the Death Star with those blue LED lights going up and down. Doesn't it feel better to be at the complete mercy of the swaying crowd with no control over your own movements?

[Bendulum]

Nine Inch Nails Concert at The Forum, Inglewood, CA,
Sept 8th 2008

999,999
1,000,000
Letting You
Discipline
March of the Pigs
Head Down
The Frail
Closer
Gave Up
The Warning
Vessel
5 Ghosts I
17 Ghosts II
19 Ghosts III
Piggy
The Greater Good
Pinion
Wish
Terrible Lie
Survivalism
The Big Come Down
31 Ghosts IV
Only
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like a Hole
Encore:
Echoplex
Reptile
God Given
Hurt
30)In This Twilight

You forgot 'Coffin on the Dance Floor' and 'Pussy Grinder'

[rasooli]

Um well, to answer your question, yes. Tool is better live, and Tool makes generally better music and has a higher ratio of good to bad material than does NIN.

well said.

[JebusLives]

Tool is not better live.

Both bands are fantastic though, and should never have to compete like this.