Crimescene, can you HONESTLY say you have never been irritated at and then vented about something that has absolutely no affect on you? If you say you haven't I am pretty sure you're the only person in the world.
that is legitimate reasoning. but you cant knock the people going to events today for the same reasons that people went to events of yesteryear; to dance and get amongst it and blow off some steam. it's the money-hungry promoters who took what was popular in underground rave communities and produced it writ large. if i had the choice to go to a chill underground party as explained or a modern day massive i would certainly choose the former.
It just strikes a huge nerve when people label things incorretly. I have no idea why at all; it just drives me up the wall to no end.
I get the same way when people categorize all electronic dance music as "techno" or when a station that plays strictly R&B says their station is where "Hip Hop lives".
An absolute definition of the word "rave" as designated as a signifier for some type of event with electronic based music is impossible. The context of its various historical situations and casual usage as a colloquialism by a wide variety of disconnected parties supersede any possibility of a fixed understanding of the term.
12/17: Pere Ubu @ Slims
12/18: Holograms @ Bottom of the Hill
12/28: Mathew Johnson, HRDVSION, Ewan Pearson, Kate Simko @ PW
1/18: Toy @ The Chapel
1/23: Wooden Shjips @ The Chapel
1/25: !!! @ The Chapel
1/25: Robag Whrume @ Public Works
2/4: Frankie Rose, The Mantles @ Rickshaw Stop
2/22: Xiu Xiu @ Bottom of the Hill
2/24: Courtney Barnett @ Rickshaw Stop
3/7: Anthony Naples, Four Tet @ Echoplex
3/23: Kraftwerk @ Fox Theater Oakland
But I really see "That's not a rave! This is a rave!" arguments as especially asinine, considering it's all been said for decades now, and the end result is always the same.
It really doesn't matter what a party is called, if you're having a good time that's all that matters. Raves never were about causes, movements and so on. Granted the early days had more of a subversive feel to it, but the bottom line is the #1 reason raves exist is because people (especially younger people) need release.
Most people who were ravers "back in the day" couldn't care less about what goes on at them today, they've mostly moved on to things that suit them better now. I still like to go out raving once in a blue moon, but my old ass doesn't care too much for the clusterfucks anymore. And I wouldn't rip on anyone in their teens for wanting to go to them. Fuck, when I was in high school, we had to drive all around socal to find shitty DeMolay dances. Don't ask.
Sorry if this is all over the place, I hit the vape in the middle of typing it.
Last edited by CrimesceneCookie; 07-27-2010 at 02:41 PM.
who gives a fuck what the actual definition of "rave" is or when they stopped or started existing. none of that has any bearing on the fact that people who used the word all the time, from 1992 until present day, are fucking brainless tools.
And I honestly usually don't share these opinions outloud, but after reading certain people's posts since I joined these boards, it just became gut-wrenching and I felt the need to vent.
Nothing personal against anyone really.....shit, I would go to EDC, Ultra, Nocturnal consistentlyif I could afford it and didn't have a family.
after attending edc in 2009 I realized I liked smaller electronic events with obscure djs that I've never heard of nor will likely see again.
Rhythm is a dancer.
^what a coward
Rhythm is a dancer.
they do have cowardice in common
Rhythm is a dancer.
When I held that gun in my hand, I felt a surge of power…like God must feel when he’s holding a gun.
i agree that lumbergh is probably that dickmunch randy.
He's not Randy. You can spot a Randy post from a mile away.
are you sure??