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    Nothing is wrong with it, other than it is in Rolling Stone.

    People are objecting to a supposedly 'sympathetic' picture of the Boston bomber on the cover. Despite the fact that it says right there on the cover that he's a 'monster'.. people are objecting to the picture because it makes him look like a nice boy with attractive features. I swear to god I am not making this up. People are stupid, but you knew that already.
    Yea they want a mug shot or something. Like the T Martin pics, I suppose you could depict him anyway you wanted if you had a photo gallery of him I remember (no I wasn't alive) that showed Hitler up at Eagles Nest picking a flower for some little girls. I have an idea, for all those opposed, send the RS some bucks and they can post the worst pic they an find of the dude and have multiple issues like some bands do. Everyone will be happy and pick flowers..It's a wonderful life .. fuck .....My gf always ask why I don't like to go out in general... cr****
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    You left out the best part of the article in your post.

    "Hey, you rapidly decaying protoplasmic sacks of calcium and shit, my name is Dr Mona Moore. Obviously, that is not my real name, but I am a real doctor. Don't feel bad for me, though, because it means I will always have a job, an apartment ten times bigger than yours, and the right to tell you what to do simply because I will always know better. Enjoy my column!"

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    I don't really understand. After a mass shooting there's plenty of agreement that the perpetrators/suspects should not be featured prominently in the media. Why, now, is it "no big deal" that this dude's on the cover of one of the biggest pop cultures mags?
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    Hey here's an idea. You know those people who are desperately poor, down on their luck, uneducated, abused, and generally ill-equipped for life? Let's make fun of them.

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    Magazines are free to market themselves how ever they want.

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    I don't really understand. After a mass shooting there's plenty of agreement that the perpetrators/suspects should not be featured prominently in the media. Why, now, is it "no big deal" that this dude's on the cover of one of the biggest pop cultures mags?
    Plenty of agreement by whom?
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    Yeah, that's not an agreement I've ever made with anyone. People get pissed off about a picture yet have no interest in reading the article. It's an interesting view into how a kid became radicalized.
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    I know most of the local press here wouldn't even publish the names of Holmes after the Aurora Shootings. Let's see: 10 years from now. "Man arrested for killing 10 people. Sorry as usual there won't be any details because we don't want to offend our customers. Just take our word he was a monster so no one cares." Grrrrr ... I still am dizzy so I better shut up .. ... cr****

    I only "read" RS for the pic's anyway just for a bit of urban dichotomy....
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    Well, the most prominent item I remember is this clip being shared around after Newtown. If memory serves correct I saw it on the forums I frequent, not Facebook. Forget if anyone posted it here.

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    Hey here's an idea. You know those people who are desperately poor, down on their luck, uneducated, abused, and generally ill-equipped for life? Let's make fun of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmack86 View Post
    how a kid became radicalized.
    Which is really the conversation we need to be having if we are going to prevent further crimes of the sort.
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    And stinkbutt leaving a motorhead set when you know he's dying just to talk shit ? Your a shitty person as well .please let mja give you an anal love disease .

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    "BUT HE'S SEXY AND MY PANTS STIR AND THAT'S NOT OKAY BECAUSE TERRORIST! STOP TEMPTING ME!!!"

    The article actually had quotes from experts stating that deep destabilizing events, such as going to a non-desirable college, his parents divorce, their subsequent move back to Dagestan and the resultant loss of not only the family structure but also the friend structure that existed in high school, is a trademark of radicalized youth in the US. Raise your hand if you're surprised that someone placed in a deeply disorienting set of circumstances and with nowhere strong to turn might turn to less-than-savory assistance, especially when his only family is that influence.

    It's a decent article. People should read it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xuclarockerx View Post
    After a mass shooting there's plenty of agreement that the perpetrators/suspects should not be featured prominently in the media.
    This may be the single dumbest thing you've ever posted. And you've posted plenty of dumb shit. Please reflect on the words "should not be" as used in your sentence, and compare and contrast to the values of independence, liberty, and freedom that presumably underlie the core of American culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmack86 View Post
    "BUT HE'S SEXY AND MY PANTS STIR AND THAT'S NOT OKAY BECAUSE TERRORIST! STOP TEMPTING ME!!!"

    The article actually had quotes from experts stating that deep destabilizing events, such as going to a non-desirable college, his parents divorce, their subsequent move back to Dagestan and the resultant loss of not only the family structure but also the friend structure that existed in high school, is a trademark of radicalized youth in the US. Raise your hand if you're surprised that someone placed in a deeply disorienting set of circumstances and with nowhere strong to turn might turn to less-than-savory assistance, especially when his only family is that influence.

    It's a decent article. People should read it.
    I plan on reading the article. I'm disappointed that the public at large is not able to, even a tiny bit, recognize the purposeful irony behind using a picture like that. It's obviously a bit of a commentary on the idea that mass murderers and other criminals do become celebrities and are in fact glamorized to some extent in our society, as well as the fact that this was a totally normal person who led a normal life and had normal friends and functioned normally in our society before he did what he did.
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    Drinkey, please explain how the picture is in any way ironic.
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    It shows that profiling is total bullshit. cr****
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomAz View Post
    Hey here's an idea. You know those people who are desperately poor, down on their luck, uneducated, abused, and generally ill-equipped for life? Let's make fun of them.

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    Anyone watching the SciFi channel "Destiny" knows that some will become alien racist in the far future. I think the alien human lesbian scenes are pretty racy so I wouldn't care I guess.... What I don't agree about that program is if we don't end the world b4, we will all be the same color eons from now. cr****
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    ... HUH?
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    ... HUH?
    If you don't know the show, that would make no sense...cr****
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    I want to know more about what you don't agree about regarding people's colors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thelastgreatman View Post
    I want to know more about what you don't agree about regarding people's colors.
    In the story line there are still "pure" races. On Earth anyway, we are becoming more homogenous and that will only keep happening. Simple science I think. cr****
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    Janet Reitman is totally stoked right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmack86 View Post
    Yeah, that's not an agreement I've ever made with anyone. People get pissed off about a picture yet have no interest in reading the article. It's an interesting view into how a kid became radicalized.
    I don't know if it's that interesting to focus on Jahar though, because the question raised by this and other articles is if Tamerlan didn't become radicalized, would Jahar have become radicalized?

    Perhaps Rolling Stone wanted Jahar on the cover speicifcally because it offers the chance to use the photo and build a story that contrasts Jahar's looks and popularity with his current status as a "monster"...but it seems like any story of Jahar needs to start with Tamerlan.

    And the starting point for that seems to be the path that Tamerlan (and Zubeidat) took towards Islam: "Tamerlan had discovered religion, a passion that had begun in 2009. In interviews, Zubeidat has suggested it was her idea, a way to encourage Tamerlan, who spent his off-hours partying with his friends at local clubs, to become more serious."

    Which may or may not have been influenced by Tamerlan personal problems: "Anna, who wondered if Tamerlan might be developing a mental illness, suggested Zubeidat take him to a "doctor" ("If I said 'psychiatrist,' she'd just flip," she says), but Zubeidat seems to have believed that Islam would help calm Tamerlan's demons."

    And that path towards Islam may have contributed to their family problems: "Anzor, who'd been at first baffled, and later "depressed," by his wife's and son's religiosity, moved back to Russia in 2011, and that summer was granted a divorce."

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    Fuck Detroit files for bankruptcy. cr****

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...or-bankruptcy/
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    Quote Originally Posted by canexplain View Post
    In the story line there are still "pure" races. On Earth anyway, we are becoming more homogenous and that will only keep happening. Simple science I think. cr****
    You realize that mixing races actually creates MORE variation, not less, right?
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    You realize that mixing races actually creates MORE variation, not less, right?
    Maybe I should say less distinct. Joke on network tv last night. "I deal with all the people of a rainbow. That leaves out black and white" I think I told that right ... cr****
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    Quote Originally Posted by Listening View Post
    I don't know if it's that interesting to focus on Jahar though, because the question raised by this and other articles is if Tamerlan didn't become radicalized, would Jahar have become radicalized?

    Perhaps Rolling Stone wanted Jahar on the cover speicifcally because it offers the chance to use the photo and build a story that contrasts Jahar's looks and popularity with his current status as a "monster"...but it seems like any story of Jahar needs to start with Tamerlan.

    Really? Come on, man. They focused on his radicalization because he was very close to what we consider a "typical American teenager." School, sports, girls, social media, cars, smoking dope. Obviously his brother's adoption of radical Islamic beliefs was the catalyst, but Jahar seems to have been much more immersed and tuned into American culture than his brother ever was or could be. Watching & understanding how that transition occurred is of far more value than is examining a line of what-ifs about his brother or his parents. We know how he became radicalized (his brother), this is an examination of how it actually transpired.

    And they used that specific photo for the reasons Drinkey mentioned above.
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    When my husband's parents got divorced, he just impregnated and married me. He didn't blow up a bunch of runners.
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    When my husband's parents got divorced, he just impregnated and married me. He didn't blow up a bunch of runners.
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    Wow, 12 step meetings at Coachella, who knew? SOBERCHELLA.COM

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    And he was a Mormon. He had more of a reason.
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    He should have blown up other Mormons.
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