Would you pay more $$ for a ticket if it meant reducing capacity?

[greghead]

Doesn't necessarily mean you make more money; just that you are better at saving. I already have a couple hundred saved up for 2011.

This. Put $5 dollars away in a coat pocket everyday for a year and you'll have over $1800. My girlfriend and I have already saved almost enough for 1 ticket and the festival is still 10.5 months away.

To answer the question, I would gladly pay more to ensure smaller crowds, but we all know that won't happen. That being said, I'll still have a great time at Coachella whether they cap attendance at 60 or 75K

[fatbastard]

My answer is 550 bucks for 3 days. I hate people.
$350*85,000=$29,750,000.00
$400*74,375=$29,750,000.00
$450*66,111=$29,750,000.00
$500*59,500=$29,750,000.00
$550*54,090=$29,750,000.00

[juloxx]

I would absolutely pay another $75-100 for 15,000 less heads. I still will have fun no matter what, but the more intimate the festival the better.

Though I know that since the capacity was stepped up and they probably made more money than ever that there is no chance that they will go back to a lower capacity. Unfortunately money takes priority over anything else

[juloxx]

Though now that they have the land for 10 more years they are going to start developing on it. That might mean that they will somehow find ways to un-cluster fuck it via development.

[GuyInTucson]

Though now that they have the land for 10 more years they are going to start developing on it. That might mean that they will somehow find ways to un-cluster fuck it via development.

I just wonder how they can do it. The way the Polo Fields are laid out, it's hard to imagine just how they would be able to "un-clusterfuck it". They could move the Do Lab to the locker area but that could clog the enterance even more.

They COULD put a stage where the one in the campground was this year but that would make it easy for people to sneak in to the festival altogether if they end up incorporating that area.

What are some ways where they really could expand the area?

[sin213]

i voted yes, but not due to overcrowding. i had no problem getting up close for the sets i wanted, restrooms/water was fast, etc...

but i wouldn't mind the increase in price to put tickets out of reach for some of the douchebags and teenie-raver etards...

[fiopadp7791]

Would we have noticed the over-crowding as much if they would've done a better job booking groups/artists to the appropriate stage/tent?

There were so many artists at the outdoor that should've been in the main. There were a a few in the Gobi that should've been in a much bigger tent. I almost wonder if next year the Gobi will just be a 2nd Mojave... I mean there won't be a tent that small anymore if there's the same attendance.

[mikebspeedracer]

if they raise the price and sell less tickets then it will make it that much easier for the scalpers to buy them all up and charge a lot more than this year. its all about supply and demand. did anyone pay attention during economics?

[artisticcreator]

$100 a day is just fine. I love the crowds. People watching is part of the fun of Coachella!

[PlayaDelWes]

No, you fucking moron. Clearly you didn’t pay attention in Economics class.

If Goldenvoice has X thousand of tickets to sell, that means their supply line is vertical, right? At some point, that supply line would cross the downward sloping demand line, right? That intersection would be the market price for tickets, yes? BUT, tickets sold out in a matter of 5 days, which would indicate that they priced tickets BELOW that intersection (market price) for tickets. In return, they received revenue of X thousand of tickets times the price they set (the area within that box).

The area above that box (between the demand line and the price set) is the market opportunity of scalpers. That area is currently a trapezoid, which has more area than a triangle. That area is freaking big right now. You will never eliminate that area completely, but what you can do is make it as close to a triangle as possible.

How do you make it a triangle? Simply raise prices up to the intersection of the demand line and the vertical supply line. The sum of revenues paid by attendees doesn’t change. Instead, GV ends up with more revenue and the scalpers end up with less.

Yes, lowering capacity(moving supply line to the left) would create a larger trapezoid above the price line (for scalpers), but the solution would be the same. GV would have to raise prices up to the demand line. That would create a smaller triangle, even further reducing the opportunity for scalpers.

/econ 100a

[Courtney]

What Playa said.

[kroqken]

I would pay a little more, but not scalper level.

[GuyInTucson]

Well after this year, it's obvious that raising prices to lower capacity is not needed. I also made this thread without realizing 30,000 extra people got in last year without paying.

[fatbastard]

What economic term would describe that?

[TomAz]

Theft.

[WhyTheLongFace]

You guys are all pussies

[frazzles]

Would we have noticed the over-crowding as much if they would've done a better job booking groups/artists to the appropriate stage/tent?

There were so many artists at the outdoor that should've been in the main. There were a a few in the Gobi that should've been in a much bigger tent. I almost wonder if next year the Gobi will just be a 2nd Mojave... I mean there won't be a tent that small anymore if there's the same attendance.

I love how this actually happened.

[GuyInTucson]

You guys are all pussies

Says the guy who thinks Aerosmith deserves to headline Coachella.

[WhyTheLongFace]

Says the guy who thinks Aerosmith deserves to headline Coachella.

Don't you dare fix your lips to speak ill of Steven Tyler.

[Mugwog]

Didn't find it too overcrowded this year. If you rush in at the same time as everyone else does and see the big must see acts, well its going to be crowded. Same thing if you were to see the same big must see act in any venue. Fortunately for '12 they've got two weekends. I don't think capacity will be such a big issue anymore. I've also found as I've grown older, I have no desire to be up in the front of Sahara. Behind the soundboard over to the right has more room to dance, sound is good, and less random creepers who end up standing next to your friends and ogling the girls like they've never seen boobs in a bathing suit before.

[GuyInTucson]

Don't you dare fix your lips to speak ill of Steven Tyler.

He should really just admit that he's a lesbian.

[Goatchella]

Didn't find it too overcrowded this year. If you rush in at the same time as everyone else does and see the big must see acts, well its going to be crowded. Same thing if you were to see the same big must see act in any venue. Fortunately for '12 they've got two weekends. I don't think capacity will be such a big issue anymore. I've also found as I've grown older, I have no desire to be up in the front of Sahara. Behind the soundboard over to the right has more room to dance, sound is good, and less random creepers who end up standing next to your friends and ogling the girls like they've never seen boobs in a bathing suit before.

thats my spot...like on the gate right front of the sound booth....same here, I dont try cramming into the crowd....gorillas was the last attempt and I almospt freaked out. Too many twerps.

[DFrank]

So...how much would I have to pay to be the only attendee? But for both weekends obviously, cause of conflicts.

[bluecheese]

just throwing this out there, but if they made it 21+ or 18+ that overall attendance would be down, wouldn't you say?

[heart cooks brain]

i would probably cap out at $400

[thelastgreatman]

Who the fuck cares, they ain't doing it. I wonder how high they'd have to hike the price point just to not sell out in the presale again.

[Grant]

just throwing this out there, but if they made it 21+ or 18+ that overall attendance would be down, wouldn't you say?

i'm wising up to this idea...

[frizzlefry]

It's funny seeing this poll now, they can hike it up to 500 and the fest would still sell out, just not by presale most likely