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    A place to let people know how their continued apathy affects the environment...

    Large Mammal Migrations Are Vanishing

    (June 9) -- Africa is home to spectacular migration events. Large mammals ranging from Grant's gazelles to blue wildebeests pound their hooves across vast tracts of land as the seasons change.

    New research suggests, however, that migrations across the continent might be going extinct.

    For the first time, scientists have compiled and analyzed data on all of the world's largest and definitive migrating land mammals. The researchers looked at the migration history for a group of ungulates, all of them hoofed mammals, weighing more than 44 pounds. The data suggest that one-quarter of these mammals no longer migrate, and human development is responsible for the decline, said Grant Harris, co-author of the study.

    In many cases, data on these animals is simply nonexistent.

    "I thought, 'Oh my gosh, there's nothing here at all,' and if there's nothing here for these large mammals, this bodes poorly for other species," Harris told LiveScience.

    Harris, a conservation biologist, conducted the research while with the Center for Biodiversity and Conservation at the American Museum of Natural History in New York. He is now at the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in Albuquerque, N.M. The report was published in the April edition of the journal Endangered Species Research.

    Some already done

    Large mammals such as the wildebeest or bison depend on green vegetation, like grass, for survival. They live in herds that are too large to depend on a single location for food, so as the seasons change, and rainfall drifts or snow melts, new vegetation grows and the herd tracks these flourishes. But these patterns are unpredictable, so migrations rarely follow a set path, leaving some migrations unnoticed by even experienced researchers.

    To understand more about the current status of migrations, Harris and his colleagues focused on population numbers, migration history and known threats for 24 migratory ungulates — 14 in Africa, 7 in Eurasia and 4 North America, (the caribou/reindeer Rangifer tarandus is found in both Eurasia and North America).

    The researchers found that for six of these species — the springbok, black wildebeest, blesbok, kulan, scimitar horned oryx and quagga (extinct) — mass migrations either no longer occur, their current status is unknown, or the species is recently extinct.

    Africa is home to five of the six mammals that no longer migrate.

    What's wrong

    Most populations lack basic data such as herd numbers, migration distance or routes traveled, and many reports are over a decade old. The new study provides a framework to guide future conservation efforts as scientists fill in the gaps and devise strategies to preserve migrations, which are sometimes not as obvious as a herd of wildebeest, said Stuart Pimm, a conservation biologist at Duke University who was not involved with the study.

    Threats are listed for 20 mass migrants in previous studies. Hunting or poaching is listed as a threat for 17. Most animals migrate across national and park borders, where fencing or roads can block access to food or water. Some conservationists have advocated placing migrating species within parks, but because migrations can extend beyond park boundaries, agricultural and other types of development on the periphery can cut off food and water access. Parks themselves are also fenced, which blocks migration and confines species. This can then aid poachers.

    A one-size-fits-all solution for protecting migrations doesn't exist, Pimm said. With so little research on the animals themselves, even less has focused on conservation. But most scientists think it boils down to filling in data on migrations and then finding a way for humans to develop landscapes in a way that has a gentler impact on wildlife.

    "You can't even think about solutions if you haven't thought about the problems," Pimm said.
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    This one actually sounds kind of cool, but still sucks...

    Giant Jellyfish Are Taking Over The Ocean

    June 8, 2009 -- Giant jellyfish like this one are taking over parts of the world's oceans as overfishing and other human activities open windows of opportunity for them to prosper, say researchers.

    In this photo, a diver is attaching a sensor to track a monster Echizen jellyfish, which has a body almost 5 feet across, off the coast of northern Japan.

    Jellyfish are normally kept in check by fish, which eat small jellyfish and compete for jellyfish food such as zooplankton, researchers said. But, with overfishing, jellyfish numbers are increasing.

    These huge creatures can burst through fishing nets, as well as destroy local fisheries with their taste for fish eggs and larvae.

    Anthony Richardson of CSIRO Marine & Atmospheric Research and colleagues reported their findings in the journal Trends in Ecology and Evolution to coincide with World Oceans Day.

    They say climate change could also cause jellyfish populations to grow. The team believes that for the first time, water conditions could lead to what they call a "jellyfish stable state," in which jellyfish rule the oceans.

    The combination of overfishing and high levels of nutrients in the water has been linked to jellyfish blooms. Nitrogen and phosphorous in run-off cause red phytoplankton blooms, which create low-oxygen dead zones where jellyfish survive, but fish can't, researchers said.

    "(There is) a jellyfish called Nomura, which is the biggest jellyfish in the world. It can weigh 200 kilograms (440 pounds), as big as a sumo wrestler and is 2 meters (6.5 feet) in diameter," Richardson said.

    Richardson said jellyfish numbers are increasing in Southeast Asia, the Black Sea, the Gulf of Mexico and the North Sea.
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    That's a big jellyfish.

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    This was an interesting program on Diane Rehm yesterday

    10:00The State of the Oceans
    The head of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration gives an update on the state of the oceans. She explains how climate change is affecting the Pacific and Atlantic and what the administration plans to do about over-fished waters.
    http://wamu.org/programs/dr/09/06/08.php#26162
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    Because fucking millenials that's what

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    Good

    Fuck Nature
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    And stinkbutt leaving a motorhead set when you know he's dying just to talk shit ? Your a shitty person as well .please let mja give you an anal love disease .

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    Quote Originally Posted by stinkbutt View Post
    Good

    Fuck Nature
    im over it. should we start worrying about space pollution now or later

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfiction View Post
    im over it. should we start worrying about space pollution now or later
    hipster.
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    i was watching Fox News yesterday and i guess everything's actually in pretty decent shape...

    i guess those "typical tree-hugging wackos" are up to their old tricks again
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    Quote Originally Posted by superfiction View Post
    im over it. should we start worrying about space pollution now or later
    I haven't heard about any plans to get rid of all the space junk orbitting around the Earth. That's a real problem for when NASA (or anyone) launches something into space.
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    Because fucking millenials that's what

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    good

    fuck space too
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    And stinkbutt leaving a motorhead set when you know he's dying just to talk shit ? Your a shitty person as well .please let mja give you an anal love disease .

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    I constantly worry about space.

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    We still don't know the true extent of human effects on global warming.

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    Im not part of that "we", I know everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingsblend420 View Post
    We still don't know the true extent of human effects on global warming.
    What are you implying here?
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    boil the ocean

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    I wonder why the media has stopped covering Swing Flu? I'm sure it has nothing to do with this:

    Swine Flu and Factory Farming

    The way that our food is produced may have played a role in the recent outbreak of swine flu. Factory farms of hogs, which keep thousands of animals in close quarters, allow disease to spread quickly from hog to hog before making the jump to humans.

    Says David Kirby of the Huffington Post:

    For years, leading scientists around the world have worried that large-scale, indoor swine "factories" would become breeding grounds for new pathogens that could more easily infect humans and then spread out rapidly in the general population - threatening to become a global pandemic.

    We know that hog workers in Europe and North America are far more likely than others to be infected with potentially lethal pathogens such as MRSA (Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus), drug-resistant E. coli and Salmonella, and of course, swine influenza. Many scientists also believe that people who work inside CAFOs are more at risk of contracting and spreading these and other "zoonotic" diseases than those working in smaller-scale operations, with outdoor pens or pasture and far lower animal density.

    Free-range pork farms don't carry the same risks to human health.

    But, what about traditional outdoor farms? Aren't those animals even more susceptible to wild type viruses than animals kept indoors, as industry claims? "Well, let's say that animals in confinement are ten times less likely to be infected by wild animals," said [Ellen Silbergeld, professor of environmental health sciences at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health], "But there are 100 times as many of them. You do the math."

    Grist says the outbreak could be linked to a farm run by Smithfield, the largest producer of pork in the world, though officials are still unsure, and the company has denied this. If the outbreak is linked to factory farms, it will provoke a hearty discussion about how our food is produced.
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    If the outbreak is linked to factory farms, it will provoke a hearty discussion about how our food is produced.
    YES. I heard on the news today that there are 450 confirmed cases of swine flu in my state.
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    Because fucking millenials that's what

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    giant jellyfish?!?! my nightmares are becomming a reality.

    i am a huge supporter of the space program, but it is amazing how much more we know about outer space than our own oceans.
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    eat a bullet. it will solve many problems. and, you wont have to worry about any it doesn't solve. we all win.

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    There's no solid evidence that swine flu has anything to do with that Smithfield farm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PotVsKtl View Post
    There's no solid evidence that swine flu has anything to do with that Smithfield farm.
    But there is solid evidence that swine flu has to do with factory farming...

    Swine Flu Ancestor Born on U.S. Factory Farms

    Scientists have traced the genetic lineage of the new H1N1 swine flu to a strain that emerged in 1998 in U.S. factory farms, where it spread and mutated at an alarming rate. Experts warned then that a pocket of the virus would someday evolve to infect humans, perhaps setting off a global pandemic.

    The new findings challenge recent protests by pork industry leaders and U.S., Mexican and United Nations agriculture officials that industrial farms shouldn’t be implicated in the new swine flu, which has killed up to 176 people and on Thursday was declared an imminent pandemic by the World Health Organization.

    “Industrial farms are super-incubators for viruses,” said Bob Martin, former executive director of the Pew Commission on Industrial Animal Farm Production, and a long-time critic of the so-called “contained animal feeding operations.”

    As Wired.com reported on Tuesday, geneticists studying the composition of viruses taken from swine flu victims described it as the product of a DNA swap between North American and Eurasian swine flu strains.

    On Wednesday, Columbia University biomedical informaticist Raul Rabadan added new information on the virus’ family history in a posting to ProMed, a public health mailing list. His description paralleled that of other researchers who had analyzed the new strains, but with an extra bit of detail. Six of the genes in swine flu looked to be descended from “H1N2 and H3N2 swine viruses isolated since 1998.”

    Experts contacted by Wired.com agreed with Rabadan’s analysis. For researchers who track the evolution of influenza viruses, the news was chilling.


    H3N2 — the letters denote specific gene variants that code for replication-enhancing enzymes — is the name of a hybrid first identified in North Carolina in 1998, the tail end of a decade which saw the state’s hog production rise from two million to 10 million, even as the number of farms dropped. H3N2 originated in a relatively benign swine flu strain first identified in 1918, but had absorbed new genes from bird and human flus.

    These new genes provided replication advantages that allowed the hybrid to permeate densely packed pig farms whose inhabitants were routinely shipped across the United States. That rapid replication rate also increased the chances of strains evolving in ways that allowed them to evade hog immune systems.

    Within a year, exposures topped 90 percent in several heartland states. A retrospective news account in Science said that “after years of stability, the North American swine flu virus had jumped on an evolutionary fast track.”

    At the genetic level, the years that followed remain a mystery — hog flus are poorly monitored, compared to human influenza. But eventually an H3N2 spawn merged with a strain of Eurasian pig flu, producing the swine flu variant that’s now infecting humans.

    At an environmental level, the conditions which shaped H3N2 and H1N2 evolution, and increased the variants’ chances of taking a human-contagious form, are well understood. High-density animal production facilities came to dominate the U.S. pork industry during the late 20th century, and have been adopted around the world. Inside them, pigs are packed so tightly that they cannot turn, and literally stand in their own waste.

    Diseases travel rapidly through such immunologically stressed populations, and travel with the animals as they are shuttled throughout the United States between birth and slaughter. That provides ample opportunity for strains to mingle and recombine. An ever-escalating array of industry-developed vaccines confer short-term protection, but at the expense of provoking flu to evolve in unpredictable ways.

    The Pew commission concluded that this system created an “increased chance for a strain to emerge that can infect and spread in humans.” Scientists and public health experts have said the same thing for years, in even starker terms.

    In 2003, the American Public Health Association called for a ban on contained animal feeding operations. One year later, St. Jude’s Children’s Hospital virologist Richard Webby, one of the original chroniclers of H3N2’s emergence, called the U.S. swine population “an increasingly important reservoir of viruses with human pandemic potential.” United States Department of Agriculture researcher Amy Vincent reportedly said that vaccine-driven evolution created a “potential for pandemic influenza emergence in North America.”

    Officials and the pork industry argued this week that a direct link hadn’t been found to pigs, and that the new flu strain had yet to be found in farm animals or workers, both in the United States and at a giant hog factory near the outbreak’s epicenter in La Gloria, Mexico. Owned by a subsidiary of Smithfield Foods, the largest U.S. pork producer and a notorious polluter, the factory processes one million hogs each year.

    As of now, neither swine flu nor its close relatives have been found anywhere. But “that probably says more about the lack of sampling in pig flu than anything else,” said Andrew Rambaut, a University of Edinburgh viral geneticist who has studied swine flu. “We don’t sample nearly the complete diversity of pig flu around the world. Most outbreaks go unstudied.”

    On Thursday, Reuters called concern with “evil factory farms in Mexico” one of many “wild theories,” on a par with a conspiracy between Al Qaeda and Mexican drug cartels. Indeed, the location may yet prove coincidental. But absence of evidence at the factory and elsewhere is not evidence of absence.

    The new swine flu could have emerged in a myriad number of ways, passing between any number of birds and pigs and people, at locations across North America, during its evolutionary journey. It may well prove impossible to pinpoint exactly where it first emerged or became infectious to people. But most of its genes are almost certainly part of a North American industrial virus lineage long expected to produce pandemic variants like this one.

    “We haven’t found evidence of infected pigs,” said Ian Lipkin, a Columbia University epidemiologist and member of the World Health Organization’s surveillance network. “But even if we never find that smoking pig, we can surmise that this is probably where it came from.”

    The circumstances “are certainly enough to warrant asking questions,” said Lipkin. “The question, then, is how deeply do you want to look to try to find the evidence?”
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    I wish the world could commit suicide. I'm sure it would have done so already.

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    I stand semi-corrected.

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    all hail galvatron?

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    Check this out if you haven't already... http://www.youtube.com/user/homeproject?blend=5&ob=4

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    Quote Originally Posted by marooko View Post
    I wish the world could commit suicide. I'm sure it would have done so already.

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    I KNOW HOW
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    We still don't know the true extent of human effects on global warming.


    And if we did know "the true extent", what difference would it make?
    It's not like this global warming bullshit hasn't happened before.
    Global warming followed by an ice age followed by global warming followed by another ice age. Nothing new. The earth has been there, done that many times before. One major difference is that now we have some very bored, overly educated, tree hugging hypocrites who are quick to blame and point fingers.
    I say blame them and the vegetarians.
    These "Green people" still use electricity to power their homes and computers, they buy petroleum products in the way of gas, tires, ink pens, cosmetics and polyester pants suits and lastly, they eat all of the fucking plants that turn "greenhouse gasses" into oxygen.






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    You drive a fucking tractor.

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    I am glad a real scientist came in here to set me straight.
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