Make a Coachella Lineup In Retrospective - COMPETITION!

[Monklish]

I fucking hate Little Richard. Why is BB King before all those people? This is goddamned silly.

[Monklish]

Doesn't exist. See: L Ron Hubbard.

The problem with 1969 is that (if I remember reading this right) it had more festivals than any other year (for the time period). There were a lot of festival whores that year (Jefferson Airplane and Jimi Hendrix being two of them). It would be easy to just bogart those posters, but what fun would that be?

I think it's silly to say that not using Jefferson Airplane or Jimi Hendrix would therefore necessitate using Miles fucking Davis. It looks like Rick was trying so hard to not use the same acts as everybody else that he just wrote down a list of all the black people popular enough to subheadline.

[Somewhat Damaged]

Ok, thanks for the insight, Tom and C DUB. I will take that under advisement. And for the record, I didn't say they were virtually unknown in the US prior to Tommy, just that they weren't huge. And Randy, Woodstock was in August. The release of this poster would've been in January of '69 (y'know, going off the fantasy scenario wherein the festival has the same basic time frame of when things get announced as now). I still stand by the Jimi Hendrix Experience headlining.

Funny, I changed the order of the bands right before handing it over to Jen for input in Photoshop. Prior to doing that, my top 3 were: The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Miles Davis, The Who. Thought I'd be lambasted for having them too high. Guess I overthought it.

And Randy, you think Miles Davis subheadlining is unrealistic even in light of Manu Chao holding the exact same position in 2007?

[Monklish]

I wasn't aware that Manu Chao was a fucking jazz act now. The problem, Rick, is that in addition to The Jazz Equivalent Of Manu Chao subheadlining, they're subheadlining over The Who and Grateful Dead. Festivals in 1969 were fucking rock shows, dude. Ravi Shankar was a big deal in 69 too. He played right inbetween several acts you've never fucking heard of.

[C DUB YA]

I wouldn't worry too much about what Randy says. He may know a thing or two, but he tends to live on an island of his own misery and delusion. Plus he can't carry on a conversation without being an a-hole.

Tom's suggestions and points are quite good though.

Tommy is indeed the album that launched the Who onto a whole new level of popularity here in the US, but they were pretty big before then, no doubt. Definitely 2-4th band on poster worthy.

Whether all of this is worth changing your poster, prolly not.

[Somewhat Damaged]

I wasn't aware that Manu Chao was a fucking jazz act now. The problem, Rick, is that in addition to The Jazz Equivalent Of Manu Chao subheadlining, they're subheadlining over The Who and Grateful Dead. Festivals in 1969 were fucking rock shows, dude. Ravi Shankar was a big deal in 69 too. He played right inbetween several acts you've never fucking heard of.

Thank you, I will take your insight under advisement.

[psycobetabuckdown]

is editing it against the rules?

I would think not, being that you can submit as many posters as you want. So that wouldn't make sense to stop people from editing. That's why I want you guys to stop criticizing him, because criticizing him helps him and while I think my lineup's good so far, I am not insanely comfortable with it. I want his poster to suck.

That doesn't mean jack shit. Anyone can pick 130 bands and throw it on a poster. As evidenced by most of the shit posters on here. The challenge is a) getting the right mix and b) going along with what you think the goldenvoice grain would have been at the time (an eclectic mix of up-and-comings, out of the boxers, populars, and comebacks).

Well based on the context of my comment you should be able to tell I didn't just grab 130 random bands.

[Somewhat Damaged]

You should do 1968, psychobetabuckdown.

[psycobetabuckdown]

You should do 1968, psychobetabuckdown.

Oh shit great idea! I'll just keep the same acts and switch the year.

Btw, I disagree with Randy about his logic about 69 festivals being rock shows. I agree with that point, but Coachella didn't exist in 69 and we're talking about placing Coachella into this decade (not Bonnaroo or Lollapalooza). Assuming Coachella existed back then, it's pointless to assume it'd have the same San Francisco heavyweights as every other festival. I don't see that as the aim of this competition.

(but Randy had Miles Davis on his poster, right? Maybe I'm just misinterpreting his point)

[captncrzy]

but Coachella didn't exist in 69 and we're talking about placing Coachella into this decade (not Bonnaroo or Lollapalooza). Assuming Coachella existed back then, it's pointless to assume it'd have the same San Francisco heavyweights as every other festival. I don't see that as the aim of this competition.

Exactly.

[Monklish]

Oh shit great idea! I'll just keep the same acts and switch the year.

Btw, I disagree with Randy about his logic about 69 festivals being rock shows. I agree with that point, but Coachella didn't exist in 69 and we're talking about placing Coachella into this decade (not Bonnaroo or Lollapalooza). Assuming Coachella existed back then, it's pointless to assume it'd have the same San Francisco heavyweights as every other festival. I don't see that as the aim of this competition.

(but Randy had Miles Davis on his poster, right? Maybe I'm just misinterpreting his point)

I have no problem with Miles Davis on a poster. But he's not a sub.

Your argument is fucking stupid. Woodstock, Monterey Pop, the list goes on and it's always rock acts at the top. Because rock music is what was desirable to sell tickets. You're talking about a festival audience. Jazz and mud don't really go together. You can't say, "well it shouldn't have the same San Francisco heavyweights" when those same heavyweights are still AT the fucking festival just grossly misplaced.

[psycobetabuckdown]

I have no problem with Miles Davis on a poster. But he's not a sub.

Your argument is fucking stupid. Woodstock, Monterey Pop, the list goes on and it's always rock acts at the top. Because rock music is what was desirable to sell tickets. You're talking about a festival audience. Jazz and mud don't really go together. You can't say, "well it shouldn't have the same San Francisco heavyweights" when those same heavyweights are still AT the fucking festival just grossly misplaced.

Yeah I wasn't disagreeing with you I just misinterpreted what you said. I totally agree that even if Miles Davis is the biggest jazz artist in the world he shouldn't be higher than other headlining rock acts at the same festival.

[TomAz]

also, if anybody with photoshop skills wants to collaborate with me, I have some ideas. PM me

I'm serious about this. I've picked a year and jotted down about 70-75 bands in about 30 minutes of work. I don't want the free ticket, I just want the glory. Someone with good shopping skills PM me if you want an easy win.


Also, many of you people have a very odd sense of history. I was griping with Rick about The Who and Van Morrison but that's small potatoes compared to a lot of what I've seen. For example, anyone who has The Police headlining any year prior to 1983 is smoking a crack pipe. I mean yeah they were popular but it was Synchronicity that made them bigtime. Ditto Springsteen pre-1984. Just not realistic people. both would have been subheadliners.

[captncrzy]

Tom, I'm not great at Photoshop but I can help you with your poster if you tell me what you're looking for (as long as it's not a year Rick or I have done-I'd be forced to fuck shit up for you if that were the case).

I'm in it for the VIP pass; I love sitting around on couches with pretentious LA assholes drinking $10 vodka sodas.
All joking aside, their a/c area is pretty nice.





My biggest gripe is people putting Nirvana as a headliner in any other year but 1993. Dumb.

[bullokz]

Snow day in Dallas means new Coachella retro poster.

sbessisnowchella

[psycobetabuckdown]

Is Dorkfish still updating the list of posters already finished or is someone else doing it or what?

[Somewhat Damaged]

Jazz and mud don't really go together.

Yeah, 'cause so many people have horror stories about how muddy Coachella gets. Of all your arguments, that's gotta be the weakest.

[vcpixie]

My entry.

[C DUB YA]

*BUMP*

over useless secondary Sasquatch thread

[TomAz]

Erik's winning 1977 poster is very good. However, it seems strange to have The Clash on the bill, since they had no records released in the US, and very few people had ever heard of them. Not just mainstream people, I mean music people. In fact, their first UK single wasn't even released until March 1977, and the UK-only debut album in April, so when the lineup was announced in January, they would have literally been totally unknown. Finally, the Clash never even traveled to the US until 1978 during the recording of Give Em Enough Rope.

[Somewhat Damaged]

That's the problem with a lot of the posters. Just because a band had an album released in that year doesn't mean they would have been remotely on the radar to garner a spot on a lineup released at the very beginning of the year.

[C DUB YA]

part of the problem really comes from say a 16 year old trying to do a 1970's poster.

Without living thru it, they wouldn't know those little things, no matter what wiki might say about it.

I'm not even comfortable about my true "live thru it" music knowledge until the mid/early 80's, but I'm also a super nerd, and have very music nerdy parents.

[captncrzy]

Can I just say that I started researching another year, and I realized a memory I have from my young childhood.

I had this album:

[TomAz]

part of the problem really comes from say a 16 year old trying to do a 1970's poster.

Without living thru it, they wouldn't know those little things, no matter what wiki might say about it.

I'm not even comfortable about my true "live thru it" music knowledge until the mid/early 80's, but I'm also a super nerd, and have very music nerdy parents.

This is so true. anyone who criticizes my 1981 lineup (poster not done yet) had better be armed with a boatload of facts, cuz I really truly did live through it .. in 1981 I was 19 and working at a college radio station.

[Dr. Zaret]

[betao]

Depeche Mode would not be billed that low. They'd either be headlining or 2nd act. After Violator came out (1990) they were selling out stadiums in the US without a problem.

[captncrzy]

Yep-the Rose Bowl show was in 88.

[blackchango]

I wonder what a festival concert bill would look like if they existed in the 50's or earlier?
Coachella 1939 anyone ?

[beavington]

I wonder what a festival concert bill would look like if they existed in the 50's or earlier?
Coachella 1939 anyone ?

didnt someone do one for coachella 1883 or something? Back towards the beginning that was pretty funny.

[betao]

Yup, that was MooMoo.