It's sorta drizzling self-important, douchey 90's alt-rock stars (sorta)

**HandBanana** · 12-01-2009, 05:30 PM

LIVE has parted ways with frontman über-pantsniff Ed Kowalczyk

Today I can hear the dolphin cry.

http://allthingschadtaylor.blogspot....ished-for.html

In tribute, I have handcrafted a piece of Fine Arts....

**Shredder** · 12-01-2009, 05:33 PM

I mean this in the most respectable way:

Who still gives a shit about LIVE?

**Shredder** · 12-01-2009, 05:34 PM

ps, *applause* hand banana, you have not lost your touch

**Drinkey McDrinkerstein** · 12-01-2009, 05:36 PM

i thought this band broke up 10 years ago

well, this gives me a good excuse to listen to secret samahdi for the first time in that long

**TallGuyCM** · 12-01-2009, 05:38 PM

Secret Samadhi was and still is a phenomenal album...I really liked Live in high school/college. But their decline was sooooo terrible that I haven't listened to the band in years. I mean, Ed was never that that great of a frontman in the first place, but after he had kids the music he made was so fucking weak that it made me cringe. All sensitive and bullshit pussy stuff.

Edit: Ha, that's funny Drinkey. Mentioning the same album.

**bmack86** · 12-01-2009, 06:28 PM

I loved Throwing Copper in 3rd or 4th grade.

**suprefan** · 12-01-2009, 06:29 PM

They played KROQ Inland Invasion in 05, it was bad that I mightve been one of the few people around in the pit who knew the words to almost every song. And yeah Secret Shamadi and Throwing Copper were good.

**luckyface** · 12-01-2009, 06:35 PM

I'd go as far as to say they were good up until The Distance to Here, but holy dear lord, that drop off to V was one of the worst in music history. Easily one of my least favorite albums of the decade. I remember thinking it was fitting that it was released on 9/11/01.

**malcolmjamalawesome** · 12-01-2009, 07:32 PM

I saw these guys 4 years ago for free at the Taste of Saint Louis. Also, The Roots.

**roberto73** · 12-01-2009, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by malcolmjamalawesome

I saw these guys 4 years ago for free at the Taste of Saint Louis. Also, The Roots.

Seeing The Roots play Christmas carols during the Macy's Thanksgiving parade was unbelievably depressing.

**TallGuyCM** · 12-01-2009, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by luckyface

I'd go as far as to say they were good up until The Distance to Here, but holy dear lord, that drop off to V was one of the worst in music history. Easily one of my least favorite albums of the decade. I remember thinking it was fitting that it was released on 9/11/01.

V = worse than Riot Act. Agreed Rocke?

**Boourns** · 12-01-2009, 08:24 PM

I loved Throwing Copper and Secret Samadhi in high school. Saw them live in 97. Kind of forgot about them nine years ago.

**Boourns** · 12-01-2009, 08:27 PM

Great photoshop, but it's spelled "NevAr Forget"

**Mr. Dylanja** · 12-01-2009, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Shredder

Who still gives a shit about LIVE?

dead people

**sacleonard** · 12-01-2009, 09:47 PM

I liked Live, and I think that "The Distance To Here" is under-appreciated. I agree that the drop-off to "V" was steep. That's simply a horrible album, and they immediately became irrelevant.

**Still-ill** · 12-01-2009, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Dylanja

dead people

... in HELL!

**BlackSwan** · 12-01-2009, 09:59 PM

I remember people talking about Live when I was in 5th grade, but it was about Throwing Copper. This is the first time I have heard of them since. I'm not sure if I am supposed to feel old, or young.

**Boourns** · 12-01-2009, 10:00 PM

I owned Throwing Copper on cassette and CD...that's how old I am.

**luckyface** · 12-01-2009, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by TallGuyCM

V = worse than Riot Act. Agreed Rocke?

V makes Riot Act sound like Abbey Road. So yes, I totally agree.

**TallGuyCM** · 12-01-2009, 10:21 PM

Yeah V was pretty much the beginning of the end, but I found Birds of Pray to be at least listenable. Everything after was utter rubbish.

**Monklish** · 12-02-2009, 06:45 AM

Throwing Copper was kinda awesome. What're all you fags bitching about?

**hawkingvsreeve** · 12-02-2009, 08:06 AM

The Distance to Here was as well. All of the other records with the exception of TC weren't very good, although I really like that Lakini's Juice song.

**HandBanana** · 12-02-2009, 10:09 AM

THE CHAIR!

**mountmccabe** · 12-02-2009, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by BlackSwan

I remember people talking about Live when I was in 5th grade, but it was about Throwing Copper. This is the first time I have heard of them since. I'm not sure if I am supposed to feel old, or young.

Yeah, that was high school for me. Except that I was doing the talking and the seeing them in concert and such. What I'm saying is you're making me feel old.

But since I haven't care about them in a good decade it might be time to try again. Did they ever release "Cheetah"/"Cheater"? They were playing it live in 1994 saying it was going to be on their next album. Such disappointment when it was on Secret Samadhi.

It was by far the highlight of their show. It ended with "We're breaking up" screamed over and over.

**mountmccabe** · 12-02-2009, 10:24 AM

Also, damn, folks, Ed ruled. I was such a fan of his voice.

Also Mental Jewelry was their best album.

**Shredder** · 12-02-2009, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Monklish

Throwing Copper was kinda awesome.

agreed

**luckyface** · 12-02-2009, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by mountmccabe

Also, damn, folks, Ed ruled. I was such a fan of his voice.

If you caught them live in the 2000's, I would think you might disagree with that statement. I remember catching them about 2 months after September 11. The entire show, he was obviously trying to appeal to a new crowd. Gone were his philosophical ramblings, instead replaced by "We shouldn't talk about war, we should just make babies and stuff." (A direct quote) It was like that all night. What turned me off most though was his attempt to crowbar "Overcome" into the national anthem of September 11. He talked the song up so much before he sang that piece of shit that you would think he singlehandedly healed the world with it. Couple that with the fact he had a crew member drape an American flag over him mid song, and that guy earned a spot on my all-time douche list.

**TallGuyCM** · 12-02-2009, 12:34 PM

I saw Live in concert back in '02 at the Wiltern and they put on a great show. They also played at a Weenie Roast I went to as well a bit earlier than that.

The one song I never heard live though:

"The Weeeeeeavers they live down the street from me. The craaaackheads they live down the street from meeeeeeee........."

**TallGuyCM** · 12-02-2009, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by luckyface

If you caught them live in the 2000's, I would think you might disagree with that statement. I remember catching them about 2 months after September 11. The entire show, he was obviously trying to appeal to a new crowd. Gone were his philosophical ramblings, instead replaced by "We shouldn't talk about war, we should just make babies and stuff." (A direct quote) It was like that all night. What turned me off most though was his attempt to crowbar "Overcome" into the national anthem of September 11. He talked the song up so much before he sang that piece of shit that you would think he singlehandedly healed the world with it. Couple that with the fact he had a crew member drape an American flag over him mid song, and that guy earned a spot on my all-time douche list.

WHOA yeah! We were definitely at the same show. And they didn't play Selling the Drama....how the fuck could you omit that song?!? That was what brought them into the limelight. And yeah, Overcome was lame and I remember feeling jipped when that song was over and the house lights came on.

**mountmccabe** · 12-02-2009, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by luckyface

If you caught them live in the 2000's, I would think you might disagree with that statement.

Why would I've caught them live in the 00s?

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