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    Quote Originally Posted by digitaldragon03 View Post
    Are you seriously comparing this to Woodstock 99? The people at Woodstock 99 were hostile towards the police. They were throwing shit at the authorities, they were burning structures, they were raping people.

    People in the shrine were chanting, jumping, and drumming on the walls, not trying to attack anybody. There was absolutely NO police presence until they started macing people. Once i saw 3 cops come in one of the entrances with their batons, i walked out the opposite side, as did everyone else. Apparently, there were a few people who walked out the wrong side and got maced for no reason. You obviously were not there to see that NOT ONE PERSON was being hostile to the authorities or each other.
    I called these people Woodstock 99 REJECTS. I didn't say there were violent rapists. Figure it out.

    "Oh yeah...I had a great time this weekend and want it to continue...let's smash on someone's artwork!"

    Does that sound very intelligent to you? Really? Because it sounds fucking MORONIC to me.

    Have you ever heard of leaving to go to an after-party? Motel party? Hotel party? Campground party?

    Look...a cop comes into a situation like that...they've been asking the crowd to leave...the crowd is escalating...getting louder...more crazy. You want 'em to wait? Don't wanna get maced? Don't act like a cock (or hang out around people that do). It's not difficult.

    Like I said, I've been to every single Coachella and NEVER ONCE had a problem. It's called acting with some common fucking sense & decency.

    People like this are the same sort of people that got alcohol banned on all public beaches in San Diego because they don't know how to fucking act like grown-ups. They have to go and fuck things up for everyone else.

    Personally I blame it on the spoiled-ass "mommy & daddy will fix all of my mistakes for me" society that we're trending towards. But that's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonshman View Post
    I saw this walking out of the Cure, and kept going. Didn't look too interesting. This was at around 12:45 ish
    The same here.

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    I don't condone the police using mace on anyone at Coachella, but if some drunken idiots were ruining the entire experience for all the rest of us, then fuck em. The usual equation Alcohol + Idiots= police activity.

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    that could not even be called a mini riot ..... ah the good old days and tomaz hates when i say that cr****







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    I wouldn't have described it as a riot. it looked to me like more of a celebration. not angry people, but people cheering and making a lot of noise to mark the end of such a great weekend. they were on a high and didn't just want to walk away. but maybe I misinterpreted it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SubBass49 View Post
    I called these people Woodstock 99 REJECTS. I didn't say there were violent rapists. Figure it out.

    "Oh yeah...I had a great time this weekend and want it to continue...let's smash on someone's artwork!"

    Does that sound very intelligent to you? Really? Because it sounds fucking MORONIC to me.

    Have you ever heard of leaving to go to an after-party? Motel party? Hotel party? Campground party?

    Look...a cop comes into a situation like that...they've been asking the crowd to leave...the crowd is escalating...getting louder...more crazy. You want 'em to wait? Don't wanna get maced? Don't act like a cock (or hang out around people that do). It's not difficult.

    Like I said, I've been to every single Coachella and NEVER ONCE had a problem. It's called acting with some common fucking sense & decency.

    People like this are the same sort of people that got alcohol banned on all public beaches in San Diego because they don't know how to fucking act like grown-ups. They have to go and fuck things up for everyone else.

    Personally I blame it on the spoiled-ass "mommy & daddy will fix all of my mistakes for me" society that we're trending towards. But that's just me.
    This NEVER fucking happened. Look at the video, how many security/police officers do you see pulling people out the house, trying to stop the fun? Exactly zero police presence before they came in and maced people. Besides, the art piece was fine. If people really wanted to destroy it, they couldve, but everyone was just using it to jump around in. I think a response by the artists would clear all of this up. Im sure they liked the fact that it ended up being the best place to be at the end of the night.

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    I am urging anyone who was maced WITHOUT PREVIOUS WARNING by the police at the end of Sunday night OR WITNESSED THE EVENTS to file an official complaint, contact the Indio Police Department, and seek legal council. I received no warning, verbal or otherwise, before I was maced. National Institute of Justice recommends standard operating procedures that approve using pepper spray on "actively combative individuals who have resisted or ignored verbal commands," [NIJ TAP Report at p. 5.] The crowd was not combative nor resistant nor given adequate verbal commands. In the video footage you can hear an officer say "we're gonna mace somebody...you'll all get maced". This is barely audible in the video and was clearly not going to be audible to the entire crowd, especially those on the opposite side of the structure. The officer who maced me and those around me did not say anything before or while he maced the crowd, made no physical contact with the crowd, and made no attempts to get the crowds attention before he began using his weapon. The police did not attempt to use safe methods first such as sirens, megaphones, flashlights, or even raising their voices. Blinding a crowd of people is not safe and is not a practical way of mobilizing them toward an exit. Many of the people who were maced were simply making their way to the exit and stopped to see what was going on. I hope that no one sustained serious injuries and that the La Familia Divina-Shrine was not damaged.

    Indio Police Department:
    http://www.indiopd.org/contact.htm
    Administrative Officer / Public Relations: Benjamin Guitron bguitron@indiopd.org
    Chief's Office: (760) 391-4030
    http://www.policeabuse.com/index.php...orms&formid=64

    video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfm8gyYZFn8

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    SUBBASS49 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!!!!!!
    "All of you coachella 'regulars' have nasty boy pussies and itchy dick4's on your asses.
    Why don't you all make like a tree and get chopped down and die. You all have been dreadfully mean to me.
    I Hate you. All of you. None of you will ever get to see a womans chest meat or finger blast hott cougies like me.
    Fuck you all. Consider this my resignation.
    Fair the well, you elitest scumbags."

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    Not really anything, shoulda seen the campsite, now that was pure fun.

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    happen to me 2 ;/ and i was just walking by

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandBanana View Post
    SUBBASS49 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!!!!!!
    Best post yet. lol
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    Why is anything that happens on the last night immediately called a 'riot'? It wasn't

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    Fuck your formal education up for music and stop being a coward.
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    I dunno. Lots of the arguments seem hypocritical to me. Can't we leave it simply as: I loved the shit out of it, some hated the shit out of it, and that's just how some shows go?
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    My two cents:

    I agree that it wasn't a riot, but the police activity was way beyond what was necessary.

    I saw the whole thing as I was walking out, so I stopped to see what was going on and filmed a bit of it. I was about ten feet from it. (Keep in mind I was completely sober--I don't take any intoxicants of any kind--so I saw all this with a clear head and memory.)

    Things were already dissipating by the time the police arrived. I didn't hear a single police officer say anything to the crowd until AFTER people had been pushed and maced. (The only police officer that I heard actually ask people to leave was the blonde lady.) It all happened very quickly. If I had to estimate, I'd say it was maybe 20-30 seconds between when the police arrived and when random people started getting pushed and sprayed.

    If they wanted people to leave, they should have come in with a bullhorn and said as much. Last year, the grounds stayed open well after Roger Waters' set ended.

    If anyone wants to file a complaint, talk to the District Attorney, not the Indio Police Department. I doubt the police department will do anything about it.

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    I contacted the author of this article about police (mis)use of pepper spray and mace:

    http://www.nlg-npap.org/html/research/LWpepperspray.pdf

    She is an attorney in Seattle. Here is her reply:

    "Thanks for contacting me, Nichole, and yes I did write that article. I skimmed your horiffic account of what happened and also checked the Coachella blog for additional accounts. It appears that it was the private security guards who used pepper spray on you and others (for what reason, I can't tell). You will need to contact an attorney in southern California or the ACLU in Los Angeles for a referral to one. Unfortunately, if it was a private guard and not a publicly employed police officer, you don't have a cause of action for civil rights violations. You do have a claim for assault under California law against the security company and/or the festival organizers who hired them. I would strongly advise you to pursue that avenue to make sure this does not happen again. You might get all of those who were sprayed together to get one attorney to represent you as group. An attorney would be more likely to do that since your injuries per person are relatively low (say compared to a car accident). Here are some names of a couple of civil rights lawyers in LA who can advise you on what to do: Chris Ford 213-487-8000; Richard Solomon 310-445-9595. You might also try Robert Burns in San Diego 619-223-0441. You may have already found another attorney by now.

    Good luck!"

    I was sprayed by an officer in uniform, not a security guard. The officer who sprayed me was male, mid-thirties, had a shaved head, was about 6'1", african american, and wearing a black police uniform. Like many of you experienced, he said nothing and immediately aimed for my eyes.

    I am compiling a list of witnesses and victims. If you were involved in any way, PLEASE send me your full name and a brief account of your experience. If your friends witnessed the events, please forward this information to them. If you were in the area and never heard the police but saw people leaving who had been sprayed, you are a valuable witness too. I will contact the civil rights lawyers list above and the ACLU and will continue to post developments on this thread.

    ***I URGE anyone who was a witness or a victim to file an official complaint. You can do so through either of the links listed below:

    http://www.indiopd.org/IPD%20forms/ipd-complaint.pdf

    http://www.policeabuse.com/index.php...orms&formid=64


    ps - I also contacted Coachella and Goldenvoice and have not received a response.

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    "You can party, but you can't stay here." So a couple of people got maced because a group of people didn't want to leave. Awesome people. Great waste of utterly useful time. Not a riot, but not my idea of a good time either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Keymaster View Post
    If anyone wants to file a complaint, talk to the District Attorney, not the Indio Police Department.
    Thank you for the advice! I reviewed the Riverside County District Attorney's website:

    http://www.rivcoda.org

    This is what the site says in it's 'common questions' section:

    "Q: I want to file a complaint about a police officer (or sheriff). Can the district attorney help me?
    A: No. You'll need to report the matter to the officer's employing agency. That agency is required by law to receive a complaint, investigate the matter, and respond back to the complaining party."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sexecutioner View Post
    MY FRIEND GOT MACED TOO!

    Everybody was having a great time in that temple, chanting "coachella!", jumping up and down, just celebrating the weekend and not wanting to go home, and all of a sudden I was yanked out by a guard. Ok, fine, no biggy, time to go home. Then I walk around to find my friend and he grabs my water and throws it in his face, and his eyes are all blood red, and face looked all red too. Some other guy tells me he got pepper sprayed by a cop. This was completely unnecessary, as nobody was being violent. It totally ruined the end of the weekend for our group, since the last thing that happened at coachella was us trying to take care of our fucked up friend who got sprayed by some power trippin pig. I seriously hope somebody got his fuckin name or badge number.

    oh, and i have some pics and video of the party before it got broken up that ill post in a bit.
    ya, my wife was maced directly in the eye at point blank range. she was 20 feet away from the shrine, just watching.

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    I for one ended my coachella sitting on the grass watching the quad cubatron until security cleared us out at about 12:30

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    Quote Originally Posted by frozen pilgrim View Post
    I for one ended my coachella sitting on the grass watching the quad cubatron until security cleared us out at about 12:30
    YOU MEAN THERE WAS ANOTHER MASS RIOT BY THE CUBATRON?!?!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by frozen pilgrim View Post
    I for one ended my coachella sitting on the grass watching the quad cubatron until security cleared us out at about 12:30
    Stop destroying the grass you assholes.

    Grass: narrow-leaved green herbage: grown as lawns; used as pasture for grazing animals; cut and dried as hay.

    Fucking disrespectful kids.


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    It's still processing, but here is 3:15 from another perspective.

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    The videos keep popping up.


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    You guys are dorks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lowfront View Post
    how about the dome take over sunday night camping?

    that was some funny shit

    "to the dome!!!!"
    i'm amazed there haven't been more poests about that incedent. that may have been the highlight of the weekend for me... although there were so many highlights it's hard to choose one... i think i started the 'to the dome' riot. this is what people told me, i was fucked up but i'm pretty sure its true. we would have made it too if 16 cops with tazers wasn't such a scary prospect.

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    So let's re-cap:

    Digital Dragon & some others are pretty much just pissed off about this.

    NicoleL is trying to work the angles for a lawsuit to try and get some cash out of it.

    Sound about right?

    Wonder what Naked Wizard Guy is gonna do? Invest in Enzyte?
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    I posted this elsewhere, but it seems relevant here as well:

    I have a number of points:
    - SubBass is probably a cop, who we all know wasn't there, and therefore has really nothing credible to say about this situation. Let's ignore his attempts to discredit us, and focus on the more important issue, which is: What we're going to do about being pepper sprayed by people who were in a position of authority, without warning or being given a chance to leave, during a completely non violent drum circle.

    -Just to clarify, yes, I was there, yes, I got pepper sprayed by a cop, at relatively close range, with NO WARNING whatsoever. Nothing. Not a peep. If he had told me to leave, in some fashion, either personally or via a bullhorn, I would have done so immediately. I wasn't destroying anything or being violent. I was standing next to a house that was being used as a drum. That's all.


    -The only way to acquire an apology/statement from either the police department or Goldenvoice, and any kind of promise of different training for security/cops is to create a sign some kind of petition saying that we'd like an official statement/apology/incident report. They're not going to do any of those things without a whole lot of prodding, because neither the police nor Goldenvoice wants to call attention to this incident.....we as people without legal expertise might not be able to effectively prod without the help of some kind of lawyer, even if we decide not to pursue a lawsuit route. It doesn't bode well that Nicole hasn't gotten a response from the PD or Goldenvoice. So PLEASE people, if you were a witness/got maced, file your complaints!
    No one is looking for a cash handout....an acknowledgment of wrongdoing and an apology would be steps in the right direction

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    Quote Originally Posted by romadelinebot View Post
    I posted this elsewhere, but it seems relevant here as well:

    I have a number of points:
    - SubBass is probably a cop, who we all know wasn't there, and therefore has really nothing credible to say about this situation. Let's ignore his attempts to discredit us, and focus on the more important issue, which is: What we're going to do about being pepper sprayed by people who were in a position of authority, without warning or being given a chance to leave, during a completely non violent drum circle.

    -Just to clarify, yes, I was there, yes, I got pepper sprayed by a cop, at relatively close range, with NO WARNING whatsoever. Nothing. Not a peep. If he had told me to leave, in some fashion, either personally or via a bullhorn, I would have done so immediately. I wasn't destroying anything or being violent. I was standing next to a house that was being used as a drum. That's all.


    -The only way to acquire an apology/statement from either the police department or Goldenvoice, and any kind of promise of different training for security/cops is to create a sign some kind of petition saying that we'd like an official statement/apology/incident report. They're not going to do any of those things without a whole lot of prodding, because neither the police nor Goldenvoice wants to call attention to this incident.....we as people without legal expertise might not be able to effectively prod without the help of some kind of lawyer, even if we decide not to pursue a lawsuit route. It doesn't bode well that Nicole hasn't gotten a response from the PD or Goldenvoice. So PLEASE people, if you were a witness/got maced, file your complaints!
    No one is looking for a cash handout....an acknowledgment of wrongdoing and an apology would be steps in the right direction
    I posted elsewhere that I'm not a cop, I'm a teacher...but whatever.

    Please go ahead and file lawsuits. Please fuck up Coachella for the rest of us non-idiots. We'll really appreciate that.

    I also posted this elsewhere:

    A lawsuit will result in:

    a). tighter security & restrictions
    b). higher prices to recover lawsuit losses
    c). higher prices for security (passed on to us as consumers)
    Ask anyone that used to enjoy a beer or two at a beach in San Diego what people like you end up fucking up for everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SubBass49 View Post
    So let's re-cap:

    Digital Dragon & some others are pretty much just pissed off about this.

    NicoleL is trying to work the angles for a lawsuit to try and get some cash out of it.

    Sound about right?

    Wonder what Naked Wizard Guy is gonna do? Invest in Enzyte?
    Pissed about what? I didnt get maced.

    I just think youre an idiot for thinking this is a full on riot, and that this is going to end Coachella somehow.

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