The Pitchfork News/reviews thread

[TallGuyCM]

Yeah... I'm tired of defending GKMC... Obviously I love it. If you don't, I don't see how.

But yeah, maybe you'll come around.

edit: this is addressed to any naysayer

But to be fair, you knew you were going to love it before it ever leaked. You've got great taste in music, but for this one I'd say your take on it is far from objective.

[ods..]

Definitely lol. I'm just happy it fulfilled (at least my) expectations.

I also really like this needledrop review and I usually disagree with him.

[Mr. Porter]

I mean it's obviously album of the year but I wonder how it'll stand the test of time. I said before that I can't really think of a better (major label) debut since...idk College Dropout? But that album has aged terribly in my opinion.

[Spooks]

I mean it's obviously album of the year but I wonder how it'll stand the test of time. I said before that I can't really think of a better (major label) debut since...idk College Dropout? But that album has aged terribly in my opinion.

Please don't even compare it to College Dropout haha. That album is by far my favorite LP of his when he was stilll in love with soul samples and had that goofy yet innocent sense of humor! Just listen to "Two Words" again. He definitely put his passion and soul into that track. How can you forget about "Never Let Me Down" with Jay-Z...so good!

[xanman86]

So far 8 albums are over a 9

Frank Ocean "Channel Orange" (9.5)
Kendrick Lamar "good kid, m.A.A.d city (9.5)
Godspeed You! Black Emperor "Alleluja! Don't Bend! Ascend!" (9.3)
Grizzly Bear "Shields" (9.1)
Beach House "Bloom" (9.1)
Swans "The Seer" (9)
Fiona Apple "The Idler…" (9)
Tame Impala "Lonerism" (9)

The Weeknd's Trilogy and the Avalanches' (if they actually put it out this year) album could also get 9+'s this year. Anything else coming up have the potential?

[Gribbz]

Please don't even compare it to College Dropout haha. That album is by far my favorite LP of his when he was stilll in love with soul samples and had that goofy yet innocent sense of humor!

Yes. I really miss the Kanye of old.

[Miroir Noir]

The Weeknd's Trilogy and the Avalanches' (if they actually put it out this year) album could also get 9+'s this year. Anything else coming up have the potential?

There's going to be what, one new song on the Weeknd physical release? Really don't think that should factor in to the 2012 AOTY race.

I think Big Boi and Ghostface still have albums in November. Scott Walker in December.

[Spooks]

So far 8 albums are over a 9

Frank Ocean "Channel Orange" (9.5)
Kendrick Lamar "good kid, m.A.A.d city (9.5)
Godspeed You! Black Emperor "Alleluja! Don't Bend! Ascend!" (9.3)
Grizzly Bear "Shields" (9.1)
Beach House "Bloom" (9.1)
Swans "The Seer" (9)
Fiona Apple "The Idler…" (9)
Tame Impala "Lonerism" (9)

The Weeknd's Trilogy and the Avalanches' (if they actually put it out this year) album could also get 9+'s this year. Anything else coming up have the potential?

Probably these releases....

Big Boi: Vicious Lies and Dangerous Rumors
Archers of Loaf: What Did You Expect? (documentary film) [DVD]
The Replacements: Color Me Obsessed (documentary film) [DVD]
A$AP Rocky: LongLiveA$APAndy Stott: Luxury Problems
Tyler, the Creator: Wolf
M.I.A.: Matangi
Azealia Banks: Broke With Expensive Taste

[xanman86]

There's going to be what, one new song on the Weeknd physical release? Really don't think that should factor in to the 2012 AOTY race.

I think Big Boi and Ghostface still have albums in November. Scott Walker in December.

I think there will be 3 new songs that should hopefully make the flow of the Trilogy format smoother. (Each mixtape was 9 songs, they are each now 10) I agree though, I'd much rather he come out with a proper separate release for his debut like Frank Ocean and Kendrick Lamar. They left impressions with Nostalgia/Ultra and Section 8.0 but made sure to put out much stronger debut's that surpassed most people's high expectations, I don't see why The Weeknd isn't doing the same.

Probably these releases....

Big Boi: Vicious Lies and Dangerous Rumors
Archers of Loaf: What Did You Expect? (documentary film) [DVD]
The Replacements: Color Me Obsessed (documentary film) [DVD]
A$AP Rocky: LongLiveA$APAndy Stott: Luxury Problems
Tyler, the Creator: Wolf
M.I.A.: Matangi
Azealia Banks: Broke With Expensive Taste

I didn't know The Replacement's were doing anything new, I'd be ecstatic to see them at Coachella!! I forgot about Big Boi's album but I will be surprised if it is better than gk,mc.

Do you think Tyler could get a better score with his second album? I'd love to see that but don't have my expectations set too high for Wolf.

[Mr. Porter]

I don't think Pitchfork will laud any more OF releases until Frank's sophomore album or perhaps Earl's next project

[TallGuyCM]

Scott Walker in December.

Based on the trailer for the album, I'd say there is a strong, strong chance it lands a 9.0 or higher.

[Spooks]

No Outkast, Public Enemy, A Tribe Called Quest, Wu-Tang, Big L, Gang Starr, and etc.....pretty typical list!

Kendrick Lamar's 25 Favorite Albums (Chronologically)

1991-- DJ Quik, Quik Is The Name

1991-- Ice Cube, Death Certificate

1992-- Dr. Dre, The Chronic

1993-- Snoop Dogg, Doggystyle

1994-- Notorious B.I.G., Ready to Die

1995-- 2Pac, Me Against The World

1995-- Tha Dogg Pound, Dogg Food

1996-- 2Pac, All Eyez On Me

1996-- Jay-Z, Reasonable Doubt

1996-- 2Pac, Makaveli

1997-- Notorious B.I.G., Life After Death

1998-- DMX, It's Dark And Hell Is Hot

1998-- Lauryn Hill, The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill

1998-- Juvenile, 400 Degreez

1998-- DJ Quik, Rhythm-al-ism

1999-- B.G., Chopper City in the Ghetto

1999-- Hot Boys, Guerrilla Warfare

1999-- Lil Wayne, The Block Is Hot

1999-- E-40, Charlie Hustle

1999-- Kurupt, Tha Streetz Iz a Mutha

1999-- Dr. Dre, 2001

2000-- DJ Quik, Balance & Options

2001-- Nas, Stillmatic

2002-- Clipse, Lord Willin'

2003-- Jay-Z, The Black Album

[TallGuyCM]

lul, Stillmatic but no Illmatic?

[ods..]

lul, Stillmatic but no Illmatic?

Think about when Stillmatic came out! Kendrick would have been 13-14... pretty formative music age if you ask me.

[TallGuyCM]

Money Trees is great btw. The "It go Halle Berre or hallelujah" play on words is brilliant. Still can't stand Backstreet Freestyle, haha.

[ods..]

Money Trees is great btw. The "It go Halle Berre or hallelujah" play on words is brilliant. Still can't stand Backstreet Freestyle, haha.

I love Money Trees. The whole album is brilliant imo. You're supposed to hate Backseat Freestyle! It's irony lol. I like the song, but obviously if he wasn't being ironic he'd sound like a complete jackass. It fits in the story though.

[TallGuyCM]

It's the part where what's his name yells beeyotch repeatedly that makes me want to turn the whole thing off.

Also, re: Money Trees, I didn't notice it until someone on youtube pointed it out, but apparently he's sampling Beach House's Silver Soul in that song. So, I looked up what else was sampled and a site made a list of what songs were used, pretty interesting:

Kendrick Lamar – good kid, m.A.A.d. city – The Samples Tracklist
01. Prologue
02. Dreamscape Interlude (Prod. by Gianni Lee)
03. Boom Clap Bachelors – “Tiden Flyver” (“Bitch, Don’t Kill My Vibe”)
04. Suspekt – “Helt Alene” (“Art of Peer Pressure”)
05. Beach House – “Silver Soul” (“Money Trees”)
06. Janet Jackson – “Anytime, Anyplace” (“Poetic Justice”)
07. Kanye West – “We Major” (“M.A.A.D City”)
08. Ohio Players – ”Funky Worm” (“M.A.A.D City”)
09. Grant Green – “Maybe Tomorrow” (“Sing About Me, I’m Dying of Thirst”)
10. Formula IV – “What’s This World Coming To” (“Compton”)
11. Kool and the Gang – “Summer Madness” (“Compton”)
12.Twin Sister – “Meet the Frownies” (“The Recipe”)

[Sushov23]

lul, Stillmatic but no Illmatic?

Actually Chris, alot of people are split on these albums. Much in the same way people are split between Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint, and the Black Album from Jay-Z.

[Mr. Porter]

Yeah I was thinking recently if It Was Written is slightly better than Illmatic

*Kanye shrug*

[stinkbutt]

Those people are fucking idiots

[TallGuyCM]

Those people are fucking idiots

Seriously. Reasonable Doubt is so many light years beyond the other two in my book it's not even funny.

[SepaGroove]

I really like this album. And I haven't liked a hip hop/rap album in a long time.

[Sushov23]

Seriously. Reasonable Doubt is so many light years beyond the other two in my book it's not even funny.

In my opinion it's not. I like both the Black Album, and Blueprint more than Reasonable Doubt. Blueprint because of the theme throughout the whole album, and the production(Kanye and the soul samples). The Black Album because that is his peak in terms of being a lyricist, and his mastering a level versitily with the flow for each song that very few hiphop/rappers are capable of. Again, this is like debating your favorite Radiohead album. Some people might even say they like Vol.1-3 the best. It's a matter of preference, Jay-Z is just that great.

[Gribbz]

The Black Album is above and beyond my favorite.

[Sushov23]

My favorite Jay-Z albums in order:

The Blueprint
Black Album
Reasonable Doubt
ROC La Familia(if you want to count this as an album)
Vol.1
American Gangster
Vol.3
Blueprint 2(very uneven, but what is great is GREAT)
Blueprint 3
Vol. 2
Kingdom Come

[Miroir Noir]

The Black Album is above and beyond my favorite.

I've come to this conclusion as well.

[pancakespancakes]

The Weeknd's Trilogy and the Avalanches' (if they actually put it out this year) album could also get 9+'s this year. Anything else coming up have the potential?

The new Andy Stott better get a 9.6... IMHO

[kreutz2112]

agreed. it has definitely broken the top 3 for this year since it leaked.

[TallGuyCM]

The new Andy Stott better get a 9.6... IMHO

8.7

[icedKeg]

i feel like the Psychedelic Pill review is sorta like one, big, back-handed compliment.