The Pitchfork News/reviews thread

[Ross1492]

Avicci et al are the present-day equivalent of early-noughties gatecrasher trance. No danger they'll be recalled as anything other than the titular leaders of a curious, pilled-up shitshow.

[Miroir Noir]

Most people don't have the type of unhealthy obsession with Daft Punk this would require.

I wouldn't put Daft Punk in my top ten list for the 00s, but Pitchfork did, after giving the album a middling review on its release. I'm speaking more about their dissonance in handling Daft Punk than the idea that Discovery is an unimpeachable album.

[SoulDischarge]

There's plenty of moments on Discovery as cringe inducing as anything the current flaccid-house producers dredge up.

[bmack86]

Shoulda been a 10.

[Justin170]

I love how they gave Beck's Sea Change a 6.9. Hilarious...

[SoulDischarge]

I think a score in the 9.0s is fine for Ram.

[TallGuyCM]

I love how they gave Beck's Sea Change a 6.9. Hilarious...

NEVER FORGET.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/5799-the-fragile/

[SoulDischarge]

Heh. I always thought of NIN as something that 14 year olds grow out of until I joined this board.

[Justin170]

Amazing, I forgot about that. Smug fucks.

[Miroir Noir]

Heh. I always thought of NIN as something that 14 year olds grow out of until I joined this board.

This, but Tool.

[SoulDischarge]

Them too.

[cutterbutter]

I love how they gave Beck's Sea Change a 6.9. Hilarious...

I fucking hate that review too. I've read it every time someone brings this up and loathe it more and more. Even when he it talking about the positives (or what he enjoys of his career, he talks down to him).

And The Fragile review always confused me too. Why review it and pass judgment on anything at 3am? Unless thats just a device to tell his shitty story.


Some of the many reasons I dont read or care for pitchfork. I still don't believe that the numbered score is an average of the editors, either.

[stinkbutt]

Looking back I think that of both bands, I attribute that to me being both older and jaded towards their more often than not idiot fans.

[Miroir Noir]

I've actually never listened to Ram. Ive made it all the way through Dark Horse and Lennon's covers album, but somehow missed this one. Probably skipped it because of the goofy cover/title and Linda co-credit, or something, and then never came back around.

[stinkbutt]

Pitchfork hasn't been like that for years

[TallGuyCM]

Heh. I always thought of NIN as something that 14 year olds grow out of until I joined this board.

I dunno, in my limited knowledge of the span of industrial music I think NIN's first 3 releases hold up pretty well in the big scheme of things and what they did within the genre.

[Justin170]

Agreed Cutter.

[stinkbutt]

I think he is talking about the often childish lyrics rather than the music. At least I hope, cuz the music holds up amazingly well in my eyes.

[suprefan]

Avicii will headline Pitchfork Festival next year.

[Justin170]

LOL so true. They reviewed his latest track like he is Jesus 2.0!

[SoulDischarge]

I'm not a big fan of Trent's programming or voice or just his pop sense in general. I'm not hating on him for making pop industrial, I just don't dig his sound. It's got this beefy early 90s aggro alt rock thing going on that doesn't do a lot for me, and his slower songs seem kind of maudlin in a way. And yeah, the lyrics are a major demerit. Although I think the one song I actually sort of like is his biggest hit.

[kreutz2112]

Lets talk about what pitchfork reviewed in 1999 and 2001 (nin and tool, respectively) because they're the same entity now as they were back then. They gave Source Codes and Tags a 10 in that era. A fucking 10.

[TallGuyCM]

It is a really, really good album.

[kreutz2112]

Is it better than any of LCD Soundsystems albums?

(an example)

[TallGuyCM]

I'd give it the nod over This is Happening, yes. But the other two? Not even close.

[kreutz2112]

How about any of animal collective albums they reviewed. My point is, early pitchfork reviews can't be compared to their reviews now. The Internet was a different worlds back then.

[bmack86]

But, so, what does everyone think of Ram?

[zircona1]

I love how they gave Beck's Sea Change a 6.9. Hilarious...

I love Beck, but I'm not crazy about that album like most people are. It's good, but it's not 5-star classic (like Rolling Stone gave it). I'll take Odelay or Mutations over it any day.

[zircona1]

But, so, what does everyone think of Ram?

I'm curious about it now, I do enjoy "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsley".

[greghead]

I love Ram. I like it more than Plastic Ono Band, but not more than All Things Must Pass. Coincidentally, it was the first used record I bought after acquiring a turntable.