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[marooko]

http://www.carollaradio.com/

Urijah Faber is on the podcast.

[ADGZ662]

Manny vs Mayweather

it's time for mighty mouse to shut that arrogant bastard up!!

Looks like we has to wait for this fight till next year! cuz now that he is hurt Pacquiao is going to fight Miguel Cotto who just won a fight this past weekend.

Mayweather out of action with injury


Floyd Mayweather's training has been shut down until his rib cartilage injury heals enough for him to resume.



LAS VEGAS -- Floyd Mayweather Jr. has damaged cartilage in his ribs and will stop training for his comeback fight until a doctor says he can resume.

Richard Schaefer, chief executive of Golden Boy Promotions, told The Associated Press on Monday that Mayweather has been in tremendous pain since suffering the injury during training on Thursday.

"He tried to work through it. He really did not want to postpone the fight, but it came to the point where he could barely sit," Schaefer said. "He could not train, he could not move and there was really not much of a choice."

Mayweather (39-0, 25 KOs) was scheduled to fight Juan Manuel Marquez (50-4-1, 37 KOs) on July 18 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Schaefer said both fighters have committed to rescheduling and a September date has been mentioned. But promoters and the fighters won't agree to a date without the OK of doctors.

Mayweather's ribs are not broken, and the former five-division champ plans to see a doctor this week, Schaefer said. He said he did not know exactly how Mayweather damaged his cartilage.

"Right now he cannot go and train, he cannot work out, he cannot run, he cannot hit the heavy bag and the speed bags and jump ropes and all these kinds of things," Schaefer said. "He definitely will need some additional training but again, Floyd is such an amazing athlete -- and really on top of his game -- that I think it will be relatively easy for him to get right back into it."

Cartilage connects the ribs to the sternum, and can tear away after direct blows to the chest, other trauma or particularly violent coughs and sneezes.

Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo injured his rib cartilage during the team's season-ending game at Philadelphia last year, a disastrous 44-6 loss in which Romo fumbled, was sacked and benched. Coach Wade Phillips said a flare-up of the pain caused Romo to collapse in the shower afterward.

Mayweather and Marquez were scheduled to fight at a catch-weight of about 143 pounds, eight more than Marquez has ever fought and the lightest weight for Mayweather since 2005.

Mayweather hasn't boxed since knocking out Ricky Hatton in December 2007. He was slated to fight a rematch with Oscar De La Hoya but instead abruptly retired last June, while still considered the sport's pound-for-pound king.

Now, many believe Manny Pacquiao holds that title after he beat De La Hoya and Hatton in fewer rounds than Mayweather.

It's possible that Mayweather and Pacquiao will eventually meet in the ring if Mayweather beats Marquez first.

But promoter Bob Arum also wants to set up a Pacquiao-Miguel Cotto fight in November, the earliest Cotto can get back into the ring after the welterweight's win over Joshua Clottey on Saturday.

Cotto won by decision but left Madison Square Garden in New York with a big gash over his left eye that required six stitches.


Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press

[ADGZ662]

A roundup of the past week's notable boxing results from around the world:

Cotto win had something for everyone


By Dan Rafael



Saturday at New York
Welterweight
Miguel Cotto W12 Joshua Clottey
Retains a welterweight title
Scores: 116-111, 115-112 Cotto, 114-113 Clottey
Records: Cotto, 34-1, 27 KOs; Clottey, 35-3, 21 KOs

Rafael's remark: There's nothing quite like the atmosphere and excitement of a Cotto fight at hallowed Madison Square Garden on the eve of the annual National Puerto Rican Day parade. It's always a festive scene, and for the fourth time in the past five years, Cotto headlined on the weekend and gave his fans something to cheer about. Most of the heavily Puerto Rican crowd of 17,734 was staunchly in Cotto's corner, cheering wildly for him as he made the first defense of the vacant welterweight belt he picked up with a dominant fifth-round knockout of England's Michael Jennings at the Garden in February.



But this time, Cotto was facing Clottey, a far more dangerous, durable and quality opponent. Clottey is world-class and had given up his own version of the 147-pound crown to make the fight possible rather than face a mandatory challenger for a fraction of the money he made against Cotto. The result was an excellent, high-level HBO fight between two of the best in the star-studded weight class. However, this was no robbery, as some are calling it. Please.



Cotto, two fights removed from his 11th-round knockout loss to Antonio Margarito (whom many believe faced Cotto with loaded hand wraps and cheated his way to victory) last summer, overcame a scenario similar to the one he faced in that fight. Like Margarito, Clottey -- a native of Ghana living in the Bronx (but getting almost no crowd support in his adopted hometown save for a few fans displaying Ghanaian flags up in the nosebleed seats) -- is a rough, physical fighter. The fight played out in a similar fashion to Margarito-Cotto in that Cotto was a bit dominant early until Clottey got rolling in the middle rounds and began imposing himself on Cotto, who was cut and fading slightly. But this time, Cotto hung in there like a champ and was unlikely being hit by a guy with plaster on his fists.



Cotto scored a flash knockdown in the first round, which was worth a valuable extra point on the scorecards, and overcame a brutal gash in his left eyebrow from an accidental head butt in the third round. The blood flowed freely from the cut for most of the rest of the fight and certainly had an impact on Cotto's ability to see Clottey's right hand coming. After the fight, Cotto needed six stitches in a cut below his eye and 14 in the bad one above his eye, according to Top Rank spokesman Lee Samuels. Given that adversity, Cotto gets a gold star for showing heart.



Clottey can complain that he was robbed all he wants, and some contrary fans and writers can join the chorus, but the reason he didn't win is because of his own shortcomings, not poor judging. Clottey had ample opportunity to put the fight in the bag, but he did not do it. He let Cotto off the hook, especially late in the fight, but he was posing too much, going long stretches without being active and he simply did not let his hands go against an opponent at a serious disadvantage because of the cut. Cotto, meanwhile, fought all three minutes of the rounds and fought smart. Can't say the same for Clottey, and it cost him dearly.



The win sets the stage for what would undoubtedly be an action-packed fight between Cotto and pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao. Top Rank's Bob Arum talked up that fight big-time after Cotto's win, and Pacquiao was ringside. It could happen this fall, but it remains to be seen exactly what will go down, especially in light of the postponement of Floyd Mayweather's comeback fight against Juan Manuel Marquez because of a training injury. Perhaps Mayweather will try to bypass Marquez and go right to the monster fight against Pacquiao. Either way, there are some big fights in store for the fall.



As for Clottey, he's still one of the best welterweights in the world, and Arum promised him another significant fight. One that he won't get is a rematch with Cotto, not when there are so many other fights fans want to see. But maybe Clottey will get an opportunity against titlist Andre Berto. Maybe even Shane Mosley would fight him if Mosley can't land Pacquiao. Clottey could also move up in weight and look for a fight with Paul Williams, Sergio Martinez or Kermit Cintron, all of which would be interesting bouts worthy of the HBO platform.




Junior flyweight
Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon Tech. Draw 6 Rodel Mayol
Retains world junior flyweight title
Scores: 58-56 Calderon, 58-56 Mayol, 57-57
Records: Calderon, 32-0-1, 6 KOs; Mayol, 25-3-1, 19 KOs

Rafael's remark: For the past several years Calderon, a regular on the top-10 pound-for-pound list, has wanted a chance to fight at Madison Square Garden on the eve of the National Puerto Rican Day Parade along with his buddy and 2000 Puerto Rican Olympic teammate Miguel Cotto. He finally got it but had to be a little disappointed in the outcome, as his fight with the Philippines' Mayol was short-circuited because of accidental head butts that left Calderon a bloody mess. At 34, Calderon, the former longtime strawweight champ making his fourth 108-pound title defense, might be slowing down a bit. He was once unhittable, but now he gets tagged a little bit more. He also might have lost a step. But he can still box as well as anyone in the sport. Unfortunately, he didn't have a chance to really get into his groove against Mayol. There was a rough head butt in the fourth round, but in the fifth round, another accidental head clash left Calderon badly cut on his forehead, and yet another bad butt in the round made it worse.



The injury was in a similar location as the bad cut Calderon suffered in his previous fight, a seventh-round technical decision in a rematch with former champ Hugo Cazares.



When they badly clashed heads again in the sixth round, referee Benjy Esteves called time to have ringside physician Dr. Robert Polofsky examine Calderon again. This time he recommended the bout be stopped and Esteves called it off, sending a second consecutive Calderon fight to the scorecards for a technical decision. Although Calderon didn't get the win he hoped for, he did retain his title. When he's healed, promoter Bob Arum would like to put together a rematch. Considering how competitive it was for the five-plus rounds the fight lasted, that is not a bad idea. You have to hope, however, that if it happens again, they can avoid the butts. That seems unlikely because Calderon is a southpaw and the taller, right-handed Mayol seem to have styles tailor-made for accidental head butts.



The outcome was a big disappointment for Mayol, 27, who dropped to 0-2-1 in world title fights. The Manny Pacquiao-promoted contender lost a close decision to then-strawweight titlist Eagle Kyowa in 2006 in Japan and was knocked out by then-junior flyweight titlist Ulises Solis in the eighth round in 2007 in Mayol's only other appearance in the United States.


Middleweight
Matvey Korobov W4 Loren Myers
Scores: 40-36 (three times)
Records: Korobov, 6-0, 5 KOs; Myers, 7-3, 2 KOs

Rafael's remark: These early professional fights for Korobov are all about learning the pro game. Although the former Russian amateur star -- a two-time world champion and 2008 Olympian -- had no problem with Myers, Korobov went the distance for the first time as a pro, albeit only four rounds. Still, that's part of the learning process, and promoter Top Rank was happy that he got in the rounds. Korobov, 26 -- who has scored some spectacular knockouts in his first few fights -- hit Myers with just about everything, but he was able to withstand the shots. For a guy with virtually no chance to win, you have to give Myers credit for fighting his heart out in the face of certain defeat. Korobov will be back in the ring in just two weeks as manager Cameron Dunkin and Top Rank keep him as busy as possible. He is scheduled to fight June 27 in Atlantic City, N.J., on the undercard of a pay-per-view card headlined by junior featherweight titlist Juan Manuel Lopez's defense against Olivier Lontchi. Korobov likely will have his first scheduled six-rounder on the show.

[marooko]

probably the biggest womens MMA fight to date will be happening august 15th. Gina Carrano vs. Cristiane Santos. if you dont wanna watch the interview, at least let it load and watch "cyborg" (cristiane) choke out the interviewer.



also, watch Shaq make out with chuck liddell. yes, he trains for real and he does wanna fight.

[ADGZ662]

Oh shit, finally Championship boxing reutrns here back to the Coachella Valley. Fuck yessssssss!!




Timothy Bradley vs Nate Campbell Aug. 1 In Rancho Mirage On SHOWTIME

Unbeaten Timothy “Desert Storm’’ Bradley has traveled thousands and thousands of miles for fights in the last 15 months. Now, finally, “Desert Storm” is getting a home game in the California desert when he defends his World Boxing Organization (WBO) Jr. Welterweight world title against former champion and dynamic puncher Nate Campbell, Saturday, August 1, live on SHOWTIME® (9p ET/PT, delayed on the West Coast). The scheduled 12-round world title fight will emanate from the brand-new The Show at Agua Caliente Casino • Resort • Spa in Rancho Mirage, Calif., less than 10 miles from where Bradley grew up in North Palm Springs. The event is promoted by Gary Shaw Productions and Thompson Boxing Promotions in association with Don King Productions and Agua Caliente Casino • Resort • Spa. Tickets go on sale July 3, at 10 a.m. (PT) and will be available for purchase online at www.HotWaterCasino.com/TheShow or by calling (800) 585-3737..

In his professional career, Bradley has racked up the frequent flyer miles and collected two world titles, earning the respect of boxing fans and media throughout the world for his fistic efforts overseas and in the United States.

The veteran Campbell is a former unified lightweight world champion moving up in weight to challenge Bradley at 140-pounds. He can be crafty and smart, but more importantly, he’s hard hitting with 25 of his 33 wins coming by knockout.

“God answered my prayers’’, said Bradley (24-0, 11 KOs), who will be making his seventh appearance on SHOWTIME. “There have been a lot of people wanting to see me fight at home since I won my first championship.

“It's an unbelievable feeling to be able to fight out here, a dream come true. There will not be added pressure. I will not get out of character when I fight Nate. I learned a lot from the Holt fight and I will stick to my game plan. I have to thank my promoters Thompson Boxing and Gary Shaw for making this homecoming possible.’’

On defending against Campbell, Bradley said, “Nate is a good person. He is a veteran that has been watching me for a while but what he saw from outside of the ring is different than what he will feel inside. (Junior) Witter and (Kendall) Holt both saw me as a lesser threat. Ask them what they think now. And as great as Campbell thinks he is as a fighter, I am in my prime and he will not take that away from me."

Offered Campbell (33-5-1, 25 KOs), "We would prefer to not fight Bradley in his own back yard but at the end of the day neither the fans nor the officials will be able to get into the ring with him. Timothy Bradley will be alone with me when he steps into the ring and he's going to have to deal with that reality. Bradley will not be served a home-cooked dinner on August 1, so I urge him to enjoy breakfast and lunch beforehand with all of his friends, family and fans.

"I have no personal beefs with Timmy, and I respect him for taking this fight when a sanctioning organization hasn't ordered him to do it. Bradley has two things that I want: A world title and his undefeated record, and I will take them both."

The 25-year-old Bradley is coming off a world title unification victory over Holt on April 4, 2009, in Montreal on SHOWTIME.

In the biggest boxing event in Canada in nearly 30 years, Bradley retained his World Boxing Council (WBC) title and earned Holt’s WBO belt with a 12-round unanimous decision. Bradley was dropped in the first and final rounds, but dominated the middle sessions to win a hard-fought match in convincing fashion.

Bradley has since relinquished the WBC belt to avoid a less-enticing mandatory defense and take on the more fan-pleasing, former three-belt world lightweight titleholder Campbell.

The aggressive, physical and well-conditioned Bradley captured the WBC crown in Great Britain with an upset victory over Witter on May 10, 2008, and successfully defended it in Biloxi, Miss., the following Sept. 13 against Edner Cherry. Both fights were on SHOWTIME.

"Timothy Bradley is the hardest working world champion in the business as proven by his upcoming title defense against Nate Campbell," said Gary Shaw, Bradley's co-promoter. "He was an underdog when he defeated WBC champion Junior Witter and when he unified the title by beating WBO champion Kendall Holt. Timothy doesn't believe in easy paydays. He works hard in the gym and when he's not training he's an outstanding family man at home. He is a shining example of what is right in a boxer. Look for a SOUPberb performance against Campbell."

Campbell, from Jacksonville, Fla., won the International Boxing Federation (IBF), WBO and World Boxing Association (WBA) 135-pound belts by shocking previously unbeaten unified lightweight champion Juan “Baby Bull” Diaz on March 8, 2008.

In a sterling performance, “The Galaxxy Warrior” outgunned and battered the previously unbeaten Diaz en route to registering an upset, 12-round split decision in Cancun, Mexico.

The 37-year-old Campbell, who didn’t start fighting until he was 28, was scheduled to defend his world titles against undefeated two-division world champion Joan Guzman on Sept. 13, 2008, but Guzman failed to make weight and was not healthy enough to compete.

The relentless and punishing Campbell had to wait until Feb. 14, 2009 for an opportunity to defend his belts. He scored a majority decision over once-beaten Ali Funeka, but he failed to make weight and was stripped of his titles.

With trouble making weight and finding a big fight at 135 pounds, Campbell is moving up to the stacked 140-pound division to fight Bradley. With names like Manny Pacquiao, Ricky Hatton and Bradley, the move up in weight wasn’t a hard decision for the respected former champ.

Opened in February 2009, The Show at Agua Caliente Casino • Resort • Spa is the ultimate in luxury entertainment. With just over 2,000 seats and excellent sight lines, guests can get up-close and personal with the world’s finest entertainers and athletes. The Show also features 12 VIP boxes with gourmet catering and private bars. Right outside, Agua Caliente offers 24/7 gaming and a gorgeous, 340-room hotel, plus spa and resort. For more information, visit HotWaterCasino.com.

SHOWTIME CHAMPIONSHIP BOXING announcers Gus Johnson and Al Bernstein will call the action with Jim Gray reporting from ringside. The executive producer of SHOWTIME Sports is David Dinkins Jr., with Bob Dunphy directing.

[Westy]

If any one is interested:

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11:00am - 4:00pm

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Join Nutri Stop for a Supplement Expo!
The first 100 guests will receive a FREE T-Shirt, and there will be over $1,000 in giveaways from the official supplements to the UFC throughout the event.

[marooko]

Nate Diaz was at a local hot spot/sushi place last night. They play rap and top 40 and it's filled with whores. No way i was going.

[marooko]

UFC100 this weekend.

my pics from the bottom up. (fights i have interest in)

Lawlor over Dollaway. I just never liked Dollaways attitude.

Kim over Grant

Jones over O'Brien This Jones kid has so much potential. I hope he shows much improvement.

Danzig over Miller

Bonnar over Coleman Coleman just needs to retire. no you say? did you see his fight against Rua?

Belcher over Akiyama wouldnt be surprised either way. not too fond of belcher.

Hendo over Bisping. I just think he's a beast. Bisping is gonna come in too emotional and make a mistake.

Fitch over Thiago Ill only pick against fitch when he goes up against GSP. again.

GSP ove Alves.

Although, if there is any room for an upset, it's in this fight. Alves is no joke. Ill be surprised if Alves makes weight...legally at that. If he does, I think it's gonna really affect him in this fight.

Mir over Lesnar. The only good Lesnar is for the sport, is to sell tickets. im slowly losing interest in the UFC because thats seems to be more important under Zuffa rule. Lesnar is a beast, i will not be surprised if he stops Mir in the first. If Mir was smart, he would force Lesnar to wrestle in the first two rounds. Like GSP did with Penn in UFC 94. Then utilize his new found striking in round 3. Let Lesnar fight for take downs, then submit him again.

to add to the UFC bashing, i heard this morning that one of Hefs ex prostitutes is gonna be a ring girl. great. thats all we need in this sport...more famous people that are "Ultimate fighting fans" or "UFC" fans. and lame biscuit? WTF?! really?! i feel like this is gonna be a fucking spectacle as opposed to a showcase of some awesome fighters.

[DJdharma]

No doubt UFC 100 will be a spectacle, and with Lesner returning, it will also be a freak show. A Kimbo/Lesner match up would be more appropriate. But no, Dana, in all his infinite wisdom and with all his business accumen, gives us the equivelent of Hong Man Choy vs. (insert another freaks name here). Lesner vs. Mark Coleman would be a better match. Yeah, Mark Coleman is so over and so antiquated that they have to remind us of who he once was. First Bonnar brags that the UFC is "paying him to beat up retards" refering to Matt Hamill who is deaf. How do you feel being paid to beat up geriatric patients Stephan?

Hey Dana! Where is Randy? Where is Fedor? That could'a been, should'a been, your mega profit ticket. Will it take Affliction to make this happen?Someday,someone, some businessman with an entreprenurial outlook that takes fight sport history into consideration, will be the man who is remebered for bringing that fight together. He will most likely be Russian.

Frank Mir, remain true to your art. Remember Royce Gracie vs. Dan Sevren.

Indeed, GSP vs. Alves will be the fight of the night. And quite possibly the upset of the night. Will GSP deliver a consistent performance a la Anderson Silva or Chuck Liddell. Or will he slip ever so slightly, like that whole Matt Serra debacle, and not "let his hands go". Outside of any fight GSP could have with BJ Penn, this will be the greatest test of St. Pierre.

If the success of Bispings team is any indicator of the coaches ability, Bisping will be knighted when he returns home. Dan Henderson is a great man, coach, and former champion. He will be tested greatly by Bispings bulldog tenacity. As for emotion, Hendo needs to reach deep down inside and find some. Hendo will only be successful by being mean and aggressive. Houston Alexander imagines that he is fighting a child molester. Dan should try the same.

Mac Danzig is my kinda guy - vegetarian, wierd, toker. The anti-fighter, anti-champion. Watch him rise to the top.

Regarding 'hos and hoochies, at least we don't have that dog Tito Ortiz around anymore, dragging that old bone Jenna Jameson to every fight. Has he buried it yet.

MMA has proven itself to be the superior fight sport. The fact that the UFC is celebrating its 100 event pushes it over the tipping point to everlasting success.

[marooko]

i dig your thoughts on this.


what do you think about carano/santos? we're going to go watch it live. pretty excited.

[JClemy]

I wish I had seen this thread earlier. This is some great fight commentary! I'm really excited to see GSP fight again. In a real fight and nothing like the Penn/GSP thing. That was a great lead-up to a weak fight.

Lesnar is a pretty good fighter but he's mostly there for ratings. I understand Dana White wanting to keep Fedor as his own but the dude just wants to enter a Sambo tourney once a year. He's a beast. I would love to see him in the UFC.

[marooko]

I would like to see him there also, but it will never happen. NEVER!! He isn't gonna sign his life away, and Dana wont sign him in unless he does. its gonna take a lot of top 10 fighters to start telling Dana to fuck off, before they start to change their business practices.

you guys know that Zuffa named a bunch of companies, that if they wanna sponsor a fighter at UFC 100, they have to pay "ZUFFA" $100,00 fee? on top of sponsoring the fighter. WTF kinda bullshit is that? Im seriously on the verge of just torrenting the fights on sunday afternoon. im getting tired of giving these "thugs" my money.

i think lesnar is a good athlete, i dont think he's too great a fighter yet. his build makes up for a lot he lacks in technique. i hope he gets tapped again.

and as for Couture vs. Emelianenko, i not too excited for that fight anymore. 5 years ago it would have been amazing. as much as i love randy as a fighter, and the fact that i wouldnt bet against him if he was fighting almost anyone else, i think he's getting too old to fight someone like Fedor.

[DJdharma]

Carano/ Santos will be epic. I found some of Ginas Strikeforce fights to be the most exciting fights of the night. Gina is so feminine and adorable, and she can kick yer ass - my kinda girlfriend, and fighter. And The Cyborg? Watch out for that fighting machine. This is a great match. Enjoy!

Yeah, Randy and Fedor are water that past under the bridge long ago. I daydream still about what the world of MMA would be today had Dana not personally squandered that oppertunity.

The UFC really is a money making machine.They've done a good job of bringing exposure of MMA to the general public by securing huge sponserships. I just wish they would pass more of the monetary love on down to the fighters. Hooray for Randy!

I really have mixed feelings about Lesner as a fighter. No doubt he's a great athlete, but I think he wins his fights by his brute size and strength. For me, one of the things that has been so attractive about MMA is that the little guy could win. Lesner is not yet a legitemate MMA fighter, he's a high paid thug. We need a hero to stop this thug.

[marooko]

Yeah, man, Cyborg is fierce. Carano's technique is good, but Santos just looks scary when she strikes. I think Carano's size is really gonna help her here. And yeah, she is damn good looking, feminine and a complete savage beast. I'd let her kick my ass. Like I'd have a choice, right?

I understand the business aspect, but Dana acts like he and the UFC are MMA. They could have done so much more with this sport and still could. It's never gonna be as big as football like he suggests. Not if he doesn't do more for MMA, as opposed to, for the UFC. I mean, people that call MMA "ultimate fighting" are not gonna be here in ten years. People that have been watching VHS since UFC1 and Pride, we'll be here in ten years. Whether the sport is as big as it is now, or as little as it was in 2001.

Just look at this. He passed up Randy vs. Fedor because he didn't wanna co-promote. THAT WOULD HAVE MADE UNBELIEVABLE MONEY YOU FUCKING TARD!!! FOR ALL OF YOU!!! They could have co-promoted this around the world. UFC isn't as big in other countries as M1 Global is. Yeah, they're spreading, but that co-promoted fight would have done, that year, what UFC has done in the past few since they declined the offer. And more. It's bad business practices like this that are gonna kill them.

Not selling to CBS to get fights on TV was a good idea. Not co-promoting Randy/Fedor....horrible idea.

[ADGZ662]

to add to the UFC bashing, i heard this morning that one of Hefs ex prostitutes is gonna be a ring girl. great. thats all we need in this sport...more famous people that are "Ultimate fighting fans" or "UFC" fans. and lame biscuit? WTF?! really?! i feel like this is gonna be a fucking spectacle as opposed to a showcase of some awesome fighters.

what your doubting UFC arghahahahaha and btw whoopdity fucking do0 doo to UFC turning 100 pshh!

[marooko]

you say it like ive always been a UFC fan boy.

post about boxing.

[ADGZ662]

Im hating im just pissed because all the major fights in boxing have been cancelled this summer due to injuries/fighters acting like prima donnas. The biggest one being cancelled was Mayweather vs Marquez which would've been next week, oh well just ignore that last post i'll still be watching it

[ADGZ662]

MMA has proven itself to be the superior fight sport. The fact that the UFC is celebrating its 100 event pushes it over the tipping point to everlasting success.

??? the superior fight sport ??? to what... boxing???


make me laugh with your thoughts on why you think this?

[paganman7]

Isn't GSP a dirty rotten cheater?

*casual UFC fan*

[ADGZ662]

ima casual fan of UFC to Marooko gonna have to answer that

[marooko]

fuck the both of you. when you become "MMA" fans, ill discuss this with you.

i dont mean this in a mean way. UFC IS NOT MMA. THEY ARE AN MMA PROMOTION!!

[dorkfish]

Lesnar over Mir
GSP over Alves
Thiago over Fitch
Henderson over Bisping
Akiyama over Belcher
Bonnar over Coleman
Danzig over Miller
O'Brien over Jones
Kim over Grant
Lawlor over Dollaway
Grice over Gugerty

[paganman7]

fuck the both of you. when you become "MMA" fans, ill discuss this with you.

i dont mean this in a mean way. UFC IS NOT MMA. THEY ARE AN MMA PROMOTION!!

UFC = MMA = WWE Wresting

What's the difference homie?


And yep, he's a dirty cheater:

[marooko]

fish, which fight are you most excited for?

wanna give any insight on your picks?

[marooko]

UFC = MMA = WWE Wresting

MMA=UFC=PRIDE=SENGOKU=DREAM=STRIKEFORCE

UFC is definitely on the verge of being = WWE.

MMA is in no way = WWE.

the difference? MMA lacks choreographed/staged fights.

also, did you see that fight? show me where that came in to play.

[paganman7]

MMA=UFC=PRIDE=SENGOKU=DREAM=STRIKEFORCE

UFC is definitely on the verge of being = WWE.

MMA is in no way = WWE.

I was actually just joking. I have no idea what I'm talking about.

[marooko]

damn you, pagan. you're getting me going.

im seriously thinking on making this (UFC 100) my last purchased UFC event.

[paganman7]

damn you, pagan. you're getting me going.

im seriously thinking on making this (UFC 100) my last purchased UFC event.

You think UFC is staged? This is a genuine, honest question from someone who has no idea.

[dorkfish]

GSP/Alves is the best fight on the card and should probably go the distance unless Alves gets some kind of crazy KO early on.

Lesnar/Mir is a freak show fight. I kind of expect it to go pretty quickly. Mir's gotten older since their last fight, and he looked old then (victory withstanding). Lesnar is probably smart enough to avoid basic submissions, so I just see him getting some kind of standing KO on Mir.

Henderson should be fun to watch, because, as I believe you noted, he's a monster. Plus he was one of the first guys to KO Silva with his fists after Silva's career got going.

As for the GSP scandal, even Dana White's backed down from calling him a cheater. He was wiped down in-between rounds when they suspected that there was Vaseline on his back. They found none. He pounded BJ's (admittedly, the back of) head in.

[marooko]

nonono.

i think their strong arm tactics are bad for the sport. they think they're gonna be the equivalent to, or larger than, the NFL. i think, in the sense that, they are/will be the only MMA promotion around. i understand there are arena football leagues, but you know where they stand. so it seems they think Dream, Sengoku, StrikeForce, Bellator and others, are the equivalent to arena football.

one example: They are adding a 100k "tax" to fighter sponsors at UFC100. and i think that will last you for 6 months. then you gotta pay it again. (i need to do more reading on this, not positive about the 6 month thing)

another: they are essentially threatening fighters that arent signed with them. if you sign with the UFC, you have sign a lifetime likeness agreement. they get to use your likeness in their video game, that they dont pay you for. and you cant be on any other game. fighters who arent with the UFC at the moment, have been loosely told, that if they sign with another game, they will NEVER be signed with the UFC.

and as for the staging, i dont think its that. i think they bypass certain fighters, who qualify for a title shot, if they dont find them exciting.

also, take a look at John Fitch. Two fights ago, he fought GSP for the welterweight title and lost. His ONLY loss in the UFC. He didnt sign the likeness agreement and was canned. after some talking, they re-signed him. His next fight was then on the undercard. The guy had just finished fighting for the fucking belt. Now, his upcoming fight, this weekend, is part of the main card. just getting tired of the BS. its soap opera-ish.