Thread for Gabe and Justin To Talk Shit About Pro Football

[TomAz]

Do I really think that? eh. I dunno. I like the Whisenhunt hire. we'll see.

[downingthief]

The hire was a good start. So was getting Grimm for the O line. They have the best core group of players they have ever had. Wisenhunt knows how important the running game is, so hopefully that means Edge will go off this year.

[dorkfish]

I think you phrased that wrong. You meant to say, "the Lions shouldn't take Brady Quinn". This is Matt Millen we're talking about after all.

In that case...Matt Millen is likely to trade down then illogically draft Dwayne Jarrett

[fober]

Carr signs with Panthers.

Pacman Jones suspended for all 2007.

Travis Henry suspended for 8 games.

Warren Moon caught driving drunk.

Harrington signs with Atlanta.

[TomAz]

The Pacman suspension is a pleasant surprise. A whole year.

[schoolofruckus]

Chris Henry was suspended for 8 games of 2007. Travis Henry is going to rush for 1,600 yards and 20 TD's in 2007.

[fober]

Chris Henry was suspended for 8 games of 2007. Travis Henry is going to rush for 1,600 yards and 20 TD's in 2007.

haahah I was hoping for more of an uproar from you guys.

[J~$$$]

http://www.nfl.com/schedules

[schoolofruckus]

I see a 14-2 on the horizon. Denver is going to lay the NFL to waste this year. And 4 primetime, national broadcast games! Three on Monday, one on Sunday, and that's not counting any potential flex games. They do have one game on the fucking NFL Network though, which I hate.

[J~$$$]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2834191

Adios.

[schoolofruckus]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

[J~$$$]

damn.

[downingthief]

That sucks. Another Cap Casualty.

Still holding to your 14-2 record, Gabe?

[schoolofruckus]

Yes. A big reason the Broncos wanted to trade or cut the salary of Al Wilson is because they plan to use D.J. Williams as an every down linebacker; that can only help. My biggest sadness over this whole thing is that Al Wilson spent all his time with the Broncos during their down era - between Elway (he was a rookie the year after the second championship) and Cutler - and thus, will not get to share in the Super Bowl trophy this coming January.

Wilson's biggest value to the team is as a leader; I was (still am) hoping that his neck injury causes him to retire so that he can join the Broncos' coaching staff. Nevertheless, I'm hoping that the reason he was released hassomething to do with the Broncos wanting to give him the opportunity to control what team he goes to next. He's been a huge part of the franchise, and it'll be hard to stomach if he goes to another team (I would imagine that he signs with either New England or San Diego, both of which would bum me the fuck out).

This is the toughest player departure from the Broncos since Elway retired.

[dorkfish]

Terrell Davis? Shannon Sharpe?

[fober]

hahahah sorry Titans fans!

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...en-cover_N.htm

Dislocated shoulder in Week 2.

Or he gets arrested during the bye week.

[schoolofruckus]

Dammit. I was hoping they'd put Shawne Merriman on the cover.

[fober]

I figured out EA's strategy.

I think up until now, they've selected players comming off of a career year. Generally people with years of experience.

They figure by selecting someone younger, who isn't exactly amazing on the field (12 TD, 13 INT, worst passer rating in the league) they don't set themselves up for disappointment.

I mean unless the guy gets seriously injured, what exactly would be a step down from that horrid season as a QB?

I still feel bad for Titans fans, especially considering Young said "I'm not afraid of the Madden Curse".

[schoolofruckus]

That's a really good theory, although I think it's blatantly wrong to call a season in which someone wins Rookie of the Year and posts a winning record as the QB of a team with very little offensive firepower "horrendous". That said, he does have room to improve upon, which should make this year that much better.

But the Madden Curse was never about on-field performance dropping, anyway. It's about injury. Vince Young will be hard-pressed to outrun that.

[fober]

I agree horrendous is a bit harsh, because he made some plays when it counted. I still believe last year was about the Titans defense and special teams more so than Young at QB.

The Madden Curse hasn't always been about injuries though.

Levens didn't get injured in 2000.
George didn't get injured in 2001.
Lewis didn't get injured in 2005 (until the last regular season game, but the Ravens fate was sealed already).

More specifically, every QB on the cover has been injured severly (Vick, Culpepper, McNabb).

[schoolofruckus]

I agree horrendous is a bit harsh, because he made some plays when it counted. I still believe last year was about the Titans defense and special teams more so than Young at QB.

Not to mention Travis Henry. Without him, Vince Young gets keyed on every game. But given how bad his passing was (and I didn't even realize how ineffective he was until I saw your stats) and the general lack of playmakers in the passing game, I don't know why any team would play them with less than 8 men in the box. I bet every team does this year now that his only halfway competent receiver (Drew Bennett) left. Hence, the Madden Curse may very well continue.

[full on idle]

what did Pacman do?

[schoolofruckus]

Shit, what didn't he do. He got arrested 10 times since the 2005 draft. He was reponsible for a strip club shooting in Vegas back in February over the NBA all-star weekend, because he grabbed $81,000 in cash and made it rain while the girls were dancing; he dropped money over them, and then this girl that was in his entourage started a fight when the strippers tried to keep the money. I think three people got shot....I don't remember if anyone died. But that was the latest in a string of arrests that - as the suspensions showed - made Chris Henry's rap sheet look tame by comparison. No small feet.

[schoolofruckus]

So basically, all he did was follow Ronnie's playbook, and THE MAN (Roger Goodell) suspended him for a full year.

[leighleigh]

DO YOU GUYS REALIZE THE NFL DRAFT IS DURING COACHELLA?????? How will i find out who's getting drafted where?

[schoolofruckus]

Stay home and watch the draft. Then text us all with the results.

[fober]

DO YOU GUYS REALIZE THE NFL DRAFT IS DURING COACHELLA??????

Welcome to the last 6 years.

[schoolofruckus]

Rumor of the day:

Denver sends its 1st (#21), 2nd (#56), and one of their 3rd (#70 or #86) round picks in this draft, plus it's 1st round pick in 2008, to Detroit in exchange for their #2 pick this year - and then Denver drafts Calvin Johnson. If the Raiders go ahead and sign JaMarcus Russell - which is apparently in the works as we speak - then this Broncos/Lions trade is highly likely.

I'm torn. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE to see Calvin Johnson in Bronco colors. But I think tossing the entire day 1 of this draft out, plus their first-rounder next year, to get one guy who plays a position (WR) that I think Denver is already in pretty great shape at is ridiculous. That said, even with Javon Walker (who returns to being a top-5 NFL wide receiver in this, his first full year with Cutler) and the promising Brandon Marshall, Calvin Johnson would be the fucking MAN the moment he hit town. And Denver's first round pick in 2008 is going to be #32 anyway (because they're going to win the Super Bowl this year), so it's not like that's worth a whole lot.

If I were the Broncos, I would first see if trading up to #6 (Washington) might be notably cheaper, with the idea of drafting LaRon Landry. I think he fills a bigger position of need and is damn near just as big of a slam dunk. But if the price is about the same (i.e., the Broncos have to part with most of their Saturday draft picks), then why not make the Calvin deal? If you have a chance to get a guy like that, you have to do it.

[dorkfish]

i'm bringing my treo to coachella so i will be able to follow along

[dorkfish]

Mike Williams could head to Oakland

Monday, Apr 23, 2007 1:41 pm EDT

Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis, who is fond of USC athletes, having once coached at the school, could be preparing to enlist Mike Williams, the former Trojans receiver who is desirous of severing his association with the Detroit Lions.

Williams, a first-round selection in 2005, has withdrawn from the Detroit club's offseason conditioning program in the hope that the Lions will cut him and he could be reunited in Oakland with Lane Kiffin, who coached him at USC.