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    Well he's no Asher Roth that's for sure ...

    Seriously though, I pretty much agree with everything Dylan said. He's just not that good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Dylanja View Post
    Like you said, it all comes down to preference I agree with most of your points. Slug is a great song writer but I wouldn't go much further than that. Especially, if you want to talk about lyricism.

    In my opinion he reaches with a lot of his lyrics. He seems to throw random stuff in there as a filler or just because it rhymes. Granted, he's good at doing this because he has done it forever but to me his verses seem to be a little scattered. He does have a solid vocab and top-notch delivery, which is why I personally like him. Lyrically Eyedea is better and I'm sure Slug would be the first to say that. I use him for an example because of their relationship.

    As far as being real, tattooed hands coming to life isn't real. Despite that song being awesome and a classic it is not real at all. I think a good portion of his stories are all made up and not things he's really been through. This really isn't a discredit to him, it shows how good he is at using his imagination while writing but I don't get the impression that it's HIM in a lot of his songs.

    Slug doesn't really use multi-syllable rhyming schemes which I'm an absolute sucker for. To me this is a key factor in judging lyricism, it doesn't need to be 3+ syllables all the time but showing the ability to do it from time to time goes a long way for me. Black Thought is a great multi-syllable rhymer (and my favorite rapper). He also seems to stay on a subject better than Slug, imo. To me it seems when Slug focuses on rhyming his story telling becomes weaker and vice versa. He's good at both aspects individually but doesn't seem able to put the two together cohesively.


    I hope I did okay in explaining that. Slug is great and a very talented musician, he pours his heart and soul out in his live performances and I had a blast during his Coachella set. But as far as rapping or lyricism itself, there are many rappers I think are much much better. He's not even close to being in my top 10.
    You did a good job. But remember again its all prefrence. When I said slug is real, I meant it personally. In person you can tell that he really has a love for music, and not just hip hop. And I agree with the fillers. He'll randomly throw in some shit that can ruin an entire song, but a lot of people do to. As for black thought, I think he is one of the greatest, his rhymes and freestyles are unbelievable. But to me, slug is just genious (written). I'm someone who looks for lyrics that invoke thought and almost no one can do it better than slug. His stories blow me away aswell. All of them. But as for his vocabulary, I wouldn't say its weak, its just different to others. I guess the main point is that after an atmosphere song, it leaves me with so much to think about, as to where a roots song is just really fun to listen to.

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    Don't know if it's been covered but I caught People Under The Stairs, they were so-so. That's where my Coachella hip-hop begins and ends.

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    And a last thing, what I love most is that for a majority of atmosphere songs, I can relate to. Ex. Guarantees, not another day, nothing but sunshine, happymess, love life etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Dylanja View Post
    Like you said, it all comes down to preference I agree with most of your points. Slug is a great song writer but I wouldn't go much further than that. Especially, if you want to talk about lyricism.

    In my opinion he reaches with a lot of his lyrics. He seems to throw random stuff in there as a filler or just because it rhymes. Granted, he's good at doing this because he has done it forever but to me his verses seem to be a little scattered. He does have a solid vocab and top-notch delivery, which is why I personally like him. Lyrically Eyedea is better and I'm sure Slug would be the first to say that. I use him for an example because of their relationship.

    As far as being real, tattooed hands coming to life isn't real. Despite that song being awesome and a classic it is not real at all. I think a good portion of his stories are all made up and not things he's really been through. This really isn't a discredit to him, it shows how good he is at using his imagination while writing but I don't get the impression that it's HIM in a lot of his songs.

    Slug doesn't really use multi-syllable rhyming schemes which I'm an absolute sucker for. To me this is a key factor in judging lyricism, it doesn't need to be 3+ syllables all the time but showing the ability to do it from time to time goes a long way for me. Black Thought is a great multi-syllable rhymer (and my favorite rapper). He also seems to stay on a subject better than Slug, imo. To me it seems when Slug focuses on rhyming his story telling becomes weaker and vice versa. He's good at both aspects individually but doesn't seem able to put the two together cohesively.


    I hope I did okay in explaining that. Slug is great and a very talented musician, he pours his heart and soul out in his live performances and I had a blast during his Coachella set. But as far as rapping or lyricism itself, there are many rappers I think are much much better. He's not even close to being in my top 10.
    my brother!. I agree, Atmosphere is the shit, but I would never call him a lyrical genius or anything. Also I'm very happy you are showing some love to Eyedea. Dude is so nuts.

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    So the best album of 09 comes out in 1 week

    Cam'ron "Crime Pays" in stores May 12th
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyTheLongFace View Post
    So the best album of 09 comes out in 1 week

    Cam'ron "Crime Pays" in stores May 12th
    I agree
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    I love how upon my first day in Mr. DLO's classroom, I find a video directed my a friend of mine as the first lesson. (Also D, watch for Frank @ 2:16, he has been to your house.)

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    Until then, enjoy this picture of Bobby I took the night I almost got shot to death @ The Brickhouse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by seandlr View Post
    You did a good job. But remember again its all prefrence. When I said slug is real, I meant it personally. In person you can tell that he really has a love for music, and not just hip hop. And I agree with the fillers. He'll randomly throw in some shit that can ruin an entire song, but a lot of people do to. As for black thought, I think he is one of the greatest, his rhymes and freestyles are unbelievable. But to me, slug is just genious (written). I'm someone who looks for lyrics that invoke thought and almost no one can do it better than slug. His stories blow me away aswell. All of them. But as for his vocabulary, I wouldn't say its weak, its just different to others. I guess the main point is that after an atmosphere song, it leaves me with so much to think about, as to where a roots song is just really fun to listen to.
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    I should've known better with a board full of elitist but the new Eminem album is AWESOME upon first listen!!

    Wordplay and verses are as good as ever and the beats are solid. Even if they're not Dre's best, a mediocre Dre beat is 10x better than an average producer's best beat.

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    D!!!!

    Send me the album! I want I want

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    I'm at work buddy, I can't, I just googled a torrent for it, no problem.

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    bleh I hate torrents. Thanks anywayz
    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Coyne
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    Well if you didn't put "gay porn" at the end of all your torrent searches you'd be much more successful.

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    Are you suggesting that I NOT search for gay porn at all hours of the day? Who do you think I am?

    Re eminem:

    I'm really glad you like the new album, it gives me hope. Encore wasnt fucking terrible but it was definitely a slide down. All ive heard so far is some single and it was a little blah.
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    I'd say the single(s) are the worst songs on the album.

    It's always been like that for me tho, ever since My Name Is.

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    The Real Slim Shady is tight though but I see your point. Just Lose It was shitty but a guilty pleasure of mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC-2 Violence View Post
    Until then, enjoy this picture of Bobby I took the night I almost got shot to death @ The Brickhouse.

    please tell the story of almost being shot at the brickhouse!!!
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    tight
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    Quote Originally Posted by chairmenmeow47 View Post
    please tell the story of almost being shot at the brickhouse!!!
    Ivysaur, I was there too! However, my uncanny/amazing instinct told me to GTFO immediately after the show. I was with a group of friends and they were all like "WTF" when I said my two friends and I needed to go.

    Fight broke out between two pretty big guys. One of the guys friends jumped in making it more like one guy getting jumped instead of a fight. The guy getting jumped escaped and ran to his car. Grabbed his gun and started spraying the crowd.

    As far as I know, everyone hit the deck and there were a ton of bullet holes in the side of the Brickhouse. The dude ended up speeding off in some car after firing.

    The group I was with said shots went right passed them. Could that have been where I would've been standing had I stayed? Never know, but thank god I felt like I needed to leave ASAP huh?

    Escaping death one night at a time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Dylanja View Post
    I should've known better with a board full of elitist but the new Eminem album is AWESOME upon first listen!!

    Wordplay and verses are as good as ever and the beats are solid. Even if they're not Dre's best, a mediocre Dre beat is 10x better than an average producer's best beat.
    I think I read in the album leak thread that the album is as horrible as his past ones. How's that stan 2 song?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Dylanja View Post
    Ivysaur, I was there too! However, my uncanny/amazing instinct told me to GTFO immediately after the show. I was with a group of friends and they were all like "WTF" when I said my two friends and I needed to go.

    Fight broke out between two pretty big guys. One of the guys friends jumped in making it more like one guy getting jumped instead of a fight. The guy getting jumped escaped and ran to his car. Grabbed his gun and started spraying the crowd.

    As far as I know, everyone hit the deck and there were a ton of bullet holes in the side of the Brickhouse. The dude ended up speeding off in some car after firing.

    The group I was with said shots went right passed them. Could that have been where I would've been standing had I stayed? Never know, but thank god I felt like I needed to leave ASAP huh?

    Escaping death one night at a time...

    HUZZAH!
    Pretty much exactly what happened, but you missed the barrel flash lighting up the whole scene and getting pushed to the ground by RZA's production manager. Needless to say RZA never got back off the bus like he told me he was going to after he changed his shirt. DLO was there and I didnt know him yet! WE ARE MEANT TO BE!

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    I knew I felt something special in the air that night

    (besides the humidity from the sweatbox that was The Brickhouse)

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