HIP-HOP 102

[Mr. Dylanja]

This is the advanced hip hop thread, you must pass HIP HOP 101 before entering. Here we will discuss Hip Hop theory, beat boxing, beat production, break dancing, battling, cyphering, word play, djing, multi-syllable rhyming, freestyling, content, delivery and swagger. I can appreciate most hip-hop for one aspect or other but I do find most radio rap to be utterly useless beyond the production.

Some godfathers of hip hop are KRS-1, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane and Kool G Rap. Almost any respectable emcee will credit one of these four as an influence.

KRS-ONE letting you know hip hop is NOT dead and in case you missed it in 101 a refresher course.


These four birthed the next generation which includes some of the most popular rappers of all time. Artist such as Jay-Z, Biggie, Tupac, Nas, Wu-Tang Clan and N.W.A.

The Gravel Pit by the eclectic Wu-Tang Clan.


There is also a generation of conscious rappers, they choose to rap about ideas, concepts and past experiences opposed to materialistic objects. Common, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Pharoahe Monch and The Roots all fall in this category. The aforementioned godfathers blended conscious ideas with materialism which made them simply, AWESOME!


BlackStar ft. Common - Respiration (a fucking classic!)



This concludes the first lesson. I know I've unjustly excluded some greats such as A Tribe Called Quest and De La Sol among others in this first section, please forgive me. I will do my best to update and add on in the coming days....

[Mr.Nipples]

i always thought gravel pit was some of wu tangs worst

[Mr. Dylanja]

Thank you for sharing Mr. Nipples. Anyone else, Billy?

[psychoc&ndy]

how do you feel about Masta Ace? i know he's not as good at delivering his flow as older peers such as Nas, and Rakim, but I absolutely love his lyrics and what he has to say. He also seems to be pretty competent about choosing the right beats to fit the mood for each song. A Long Hot Summer is one of my all time favorite albums. Also, the EMC album this year was pretty cool

[allyjoy]

*Ahem* Why is there no mention of MC Lyte, SaltNPeppa, Queen Latifa, Jean Grae, Lady Rage, etcetera, etcetera?

[chairmenmeow47]

krs-one is awesome live. would love to see again.

[Mr. Dylanja]

Ally and Ivy = Peppa and Salt

[betao]

Respiration is one of my favorite songs from Black Star. I remember listening to Thieves in the Night in my first year of high school, it practically changed my musical course in hip hop. Then I heard Definition... and the rest was history.

[BlueDevil50]

nipples is right...i like that song, but it's so un-wutang...i'd rather hear protect ya neck.

psycho...definitely. i LOVE that masta ace lp. good call.

and ally...no, no, no...female rappers are horrible. this is a genre that they should just stay out of. the best female rapper couldn't ride the coat tails of hip hop's worst male. sorry...

oh and ivy...once is enough for krs. trust me. i've seen him 3 times, since he headlined a few shows, and it was just the EXACT same thing with the same "freestyles". good for one show though...

[allyjoy]

Blue, now would be the perfect time to shut the fuck up.

[Mr. Dylanja]

"Woooooooooop woooooooooooooooop, dat's da sound of da police"

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[Mr. Dylanja]

Slow down son you're killin em!!

[Backwater]

So should I start Hip Hop 103? Just kidding. Good first post Dylan. I'm kind of surprised you didn't mention Juice but I guess you're saving that for when you go into more detail about battling.

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[Mr. Dylanja]

So should I start Hip Hop 103? Just kidding. Good first post Dylan. I'm kind of surprised you didn't mention Juice but I guess you're saving that for when you go into more detail about battling.

Add a vid, kid!!


I have to ease them into the nastiness that is JU-ice!!

[BlueDevil50]

Blue, now would be the perfect time to shut the fuck up.

ally...you can't be serious. i respect most of your thoughts and all, but female rappers have never been as good. nothing sexist about it. females are better singers in my opinion, just rap...ehhhh.

[BlueDevil50]

Add a vid, kid!!


I have to ease them into the nastiness that is JU-ice!!

juice is legit...one of my favorite battle rappers is eyedea...not so much in songs, but battling, the dude's raw.

[allyjoy]

ally...you can't be serious. i respect most of your thoughts and all, but female rappers have never been as good. nothing sexist about it. females are better singers in my opinion, just rap...ehhhh.

Black Reign was pivitol as a direct response to such statements, and while the argument remains that women are better at cooking and cleaning just as much as "better at singing," it does not make it true. At this time there aren't many female MCs because of the ideology within the hip hop community that she either has to completely abandon her femininity or hypersexualize herself. To say that a woman can't is sexist. To say that there aren't many who can is fact. But in the 90's there were some hard hitters who could go toe to toe with some of your heros. Unfortunately, I'm at work and youtube is blocked... but there will be a dissertation later.

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[faxman75]

I'm in the wrong class. Where is hip hop 101?