Alabama needs a festival...one that doesn't involve country and southern rock...but thats just because I live here.
No its fucking bullshit.
Outside Lands was a perfect example. Too many festivals that are being thrown together half assed. People want to capitalize on the current trend of destination festivals but half the time its a failure and waste of money. It hurts business because when people have a shitty time at a festival they are less likely to put forth the effort/money to go to another one.
All solid, well run festivals that deserve to stay.
On another note, what festivals do ya'll think won't make it back next year?
Don't forget about All Points West...it was hugely successful and will be even better next year...had to be the best new festival by a wide margin.
07, 08, 09, 10, 12.1, 13.1
Don't forget DEMF in Detroit and Ultra in Miami (as far as strictly-electronic festivals go).
And I pretty much lost all hope of Bang (miami) ever coming back.
I heard Vegoose is done as well...
Outsidelands is also done. So many bad reviews. I would also say that only Virgin Baltimore is coming back, all other virgin festivals are done.
I feel bad for the people who shelled out all that money to go to a fest like OSL without having experienced something like Coachella or Lolla. It would be awful for someone to get jaded on festivals because of a bad first experience.
seriously, my first festival experience was coachella 07 on saturday.
The shittiest festival I've been to was Rock The Bells '07 in SF. The set times were totally off all day and it was very apparent that they were using RATM as a cash grab. There was no money put into any kind of production to make the festival experience enjoyable or run smoothly outside of the music (but I guess that worked out because I just got blazed all day anyway).
I seriously would have died if I had to stand out in that hell hole Glen Helen all day
Then I will hold you down and spit her percolations all over you until you're as greasy as the day she regrets pushing your big fat ass out her big fat cunt.
I've been to the destination, multi-day fests like ACL, Coachella and Vegoose as well as the smaller, regional on-offs like detour and Street Scene. Neither of which can define the kind of fest RTB is. So, unfair to compare it to any fests on the list except maybe, Warped Tour (which has been doing it for years).
'07 was the anomaly because of RATM. I went to RTB 08 at Shoreline Amphitheatre and it was a completely different vibe (a better vibe) than 07. It was the Thanksgiving Feast of Hip Hop (ATCQ, The Pharcyde, De La, Nas, Red & Meth, Murs, Spank Rock, etc).
RTB is the only successful niche platform dedicated to a genre that many still have negative perceptions of. Pretty damn good for it's second year touring.
As for one's experience at an all-day music festival, either my expectations are way too low or yours are way too high, but what's wrong with expecting a good line-up and freedom to chill out and just experience it. Does it really matter if there is an "at&t blue room" to be able to go online during a show?
The thing is it was obvious that they just didn't try to do anyhting above the bare minimum. It was in a pavement parking lot with chain-link fence everywhere. The layout with the bathrooms was poor. The beer & other concession lines were extreemly long as well(and I'm patient).
I think the tickets were around $95 a pop too. For that kind of scratch the production could have been better. I never mess with stuff like the At&t blue room either. It would have been better for Rock the Bells if the blue room was there becuse I think the festival gets advertising money from the company.
Either way, thats a quality first post.
APW (sure why not)
Too many festivals is a bad thing? The more music the better is what i say!
Fuck em, if they throw a shitty festival, it wont last. Survival of the fittest...at least people are putting them together these days, im sure some people had a good time.
If everyone stuck to the same ol shit, then HARD wouldn't have thrown a NYE party, and i wouldnt be having my fucking face melted on Halloween.
LONG LIVE THE FESTIVALS!
Oh, and i wouldnt be going to detour to see the incredibly diverse line up...from Gogol to Adam Freeland.
Kingsblend...dont let outsidelands ruin your hope for the future.
One of my best friends went to Outside Lands. That was her first music festival experience. She sent me a text saying "This is awesome! Maybe you're on to something with this music festival shit." So apparently that wasn't a deal-breaker for her. I'm trying to talk her into going to Coachella with us next year. She's more open to it after attending Outside Lands.
And Sushov, my first music fest experience was also the Saturday of Coachella 2007. I've been hooked ever since. I've been to Vegoose, Street Scene, Lolla and Bonnaroo since then. Sbessio is right, Bonnaroo is something you HAVE to check out.
I went in June this year and loved it. It's a whole different beast than Coachella. Coach gets much more hot, but Roo is a fucking marathon that I didn't prepare myself for. I may go to the Roo next year if money/vacation time permits. The decision will be easier if MMJ closes the show. I just know I'm going to Coachella for sure next year.
oh, and don't forget, woodstock will also be back next year. this oversaturation isn't finished yet.
there are also smaller festivals such as pitchfork, treasure island, street scene, etc.