The Post Your Picture Thread

[MissingPerson]

That kid has a very regal wave going on, Algunz.

Captn, that picture demands to be Obamicized.

[BlackSwan]

And yup, I'm all about the atheism. Sometimes I have to stay up late to get all my atheism done, in fact. Mmm, atheism. I have no beef with believers until they do something stupid on God's say-so, though. And I like your buildings - good call on the spires. They're freaking awesome.

Atheists are believers too.

[ivankay]

gawd, that kid is so cute I can't stand it.


Nephew is hitting a month old

[MissingPerson]

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Churchill, you wily dog.

Atheists are believers too.

Then bald is a hair colour, as the old saying goes.

[BlackSwan]

Then bald is a hair colour, as the old saying goes.

That saying isn't old! You just made it up.

[ivankay]

So i gather there are different atheists. Those who believe there is no God and those who know God doesn't exist. The ones that know are just as annoying as those who know there is a God. You ask them how they know and it pretty much comes out the same (essentially "I just know."....actually you would just believe....knowing requires backup).

So yes, atheists believe.

And on that note, one of the reasons i believe in a God concept:

[SubBass49]

agnostic then?

EDIT:
Here's two pics of my daughter to get the "awwwwws" going...


Riding our dog Marley


Good times.

[ivankay]

me? Not since my early 20's have i used that description of myself. i tipped over on the believing in God concept when i connected it with my belief in infinity. And too much magical stuff has happened in life for me not to emotionally connect with the belief there is a One that is all. i chucked it up to God is EVERYTHING (that is and isn't). The God most people present through religion was too limited with all the human baggage connected to It. i guess you could still say i'm (and everyone technically) agnostic because that means you don't know either way.

i don't know shit other than i am.

[hendrixfan143]

[ivankay]

Awesome. The Hanson Brothers. When ever anyone tries to talk to me during a show, "I'm trying to listen to the fucking song!" always pops in my head.

[miscorrections]

Cal State Mullet.

[indietron]

Is this in Kauai?!

[BROKENDOLL]

You are fucking obsessed!!! Wow.
Speaking of obsessed, I'll pitch in $25 for the Get MissingPerson to Coachella 2009 fund. MP, set up a PayPal account and make it happen.

How does my post make me obsessed, Tommyboy? It was more my way of commenting on the way they've grown as "a couple," and think alike, etc... Oh, wait...you wouldn't know what "a couple" is, would you?

[ivankay]

Is this in Kauai?!

Yes. On the Kalalau Trail.

[jimmycrackcorn]

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[shakermaker113]

wow. good conversation going on in here.

[Monklish]

me? Not since my early 20's have i used that description of myself. i tipped over on the believing in God concept when i connected it with my belief in infinity. And too much magical stuff has happened in life for me not to emotionally connect with the belief there is a One that is all. i chucked it up to God is EVERYTHING (that is and isn't). The God most people present through religion was too limited with all the human baggage connected to It. i guess you could still say i'm (and everyone technically) agnostic because that means you don't know either way.

i don't know shit other than i am.

Here's the true meaning of agnosticism, just because everyone keeps talking about it today:

"Agnostic" is a term which has been generalized in its definition over time. What agnosticism really is NOT being unsure whether or not there is a God, but rather that it is impossible for man to know whether or not God exists.

[amyzzz]

I love all the baby pics. I wish I knew someone near me who had a baby so I could play with him/her. *sigh*

[tessalasset]

oh my god you look soooo much like a teenage version of my coworker it's scary. i'm gonna have to show him tomorrow.

[KatieLyn]

I'm a brunette now.

[jdaws]

goes well with your violet skin

[chairmenmeow47]

Here's the true meaning of agnosticism, just because everyone keeps talking about it today:

"Agnostic" is a term which has been generalized in its definition over time. What agnosticism really is NOT being unsure whether or not there is a God, but rather that it is impossible for man to know whether or not God exists.

and on top of that, agnostic also means that the knowledge of god existing doesn't have any impact on your day to day life anyways. i don't think there's anyway for me to know in my lifetime, nor do i think it would have an impact on my life.

[jdaws]

how can it be said that "knowing" would have no impact when the dominant statement is that "knowing" is impossible..

[marooko]

Something tells me her boyfriend would eat you alive.

this is the picture i was asking about a while ago. i forget why now. . .

[chairmenmeow47]

how can it be said that "knowing" would have no impact when the dominant statement is that "knowing" is impossible..

you're right, it's a bit redundant and i've seen definitions that don't include that second part. but to me it means that we can be satisfied not knowing as it has no bearing on our day-to-day life.

[BlackSwan]

and on top of that, agnostic also means that the knowledge of god existing doesn't have any impact on your day to day life anyways. i don't think there's anyway for me to know in my lifetime, nor do i think it would have an impact on my life.

That addition is similar to what some call apathetic agnosticism. I've found that like atheists, a view like that is more rooted in your feelings about belief in god than it is in any actual knowledge about the nature of reality.

you're right, it's a bit redundant and i've seen definitions that don't include that second part. but to me it means that we can be satisfied not knowing as it has no bearing on our day-to-day life.

Like atheists, even most agnostics are rooted in some belief. You believe that is impossible for humans to know whether or not God exists.

An important question to ask yourself if you are agnostic and think you know it all because of your belief is... Is it possible for humans to know truth?

[ivankay]

An important question to ask yourself if you are agnostic and think you know it all because of your belief is... Is it possible for humans to know truth?

That where Decartes comes in and comes up with the only knowable truth "i think, therefore i am." i can come to the conclusion "i" exist because i think and that is truth. i can't verify you aren't an illusion though.

[chairmenmeow47]

That addition is similar to what some call apathetic agnosticism. I've found that like atheists, a view like that is more rooted in your feelings about belief in god than it is in any actual knowledge about the nature of reality.



Like atheists, even most agnostics are rooted in some belief. You believe that is impossible for humans to know whether or not God exists.

An important question to ask yourself if you are agnostic and think you know it all because of your belief is... Is it possible for humans to know truth?

excellent points because you're right, it is a belief unto itself. i guess truth needs to be defined also. i think seeking truth is something we always do; it isn't something that you discover and then you're done. it's something you always work towards like being a good person. your work is never done. plato had some theory that i don't remember the name of and my notes are at home about how somethings are always striving to be a thing; they are constantly in motion. for example, all the particles in a chair are constantly working to be that chair; their work is never done. i feel the same thing with finding "truth" or any knowledge in a general sense; your work is never done. so i guess i don't really know if it's possible for humans to know truth without knowing what truth is, but whatever it is, it is a struggle.

that probably doesn't make much sense though since i'm not a philosophy major or anything, it's something i really want to get a degree in after my current degree though.

[BlackSwan]

That where Decartes comes in and comes up with the only knowable truth "i think, therefore i am." i can come to the conclusion "i" exist because i think and that is truth. i can't verify you aren't an illusion though.

It's Descartes. But reciting something someone wrote in 1644 as the basis of what you believe to be the only knowable truth is kind of empty. What does that mean to you? If "I think, therefore I am", what exactly does "am" really mean? Do you know the full breadth of your existence merely by "thinking", or is that knowledge limited and therefore "You think, therefore you sorta are."

[ivankay]

It's Descartes. But reciting something someone wrote in 1644 as the basis of what you believe to be the only knowable truth is kind of empty. What does that mean to you? If "I think, therefore I am", what exactly does "am" really mean? Do you know the full breadth of your existence merely by "thinking", or is that knowledge limited and therefore "You think, therefore you sorta are."

Since all my other senses can be potentially decieved, whatever "evidence" they provide can be suspect. my thoughts come from me. i experience them. This is evidence to me that "i" exist or am. The "i" is the thoughts because the body could be illusion. i'm not sure what you mean by "full breadth of existence". Please clarify. The only thing i can be sure of is the thinking. i was thikning how my thoughts could be decieved where i believed i was having them, but they were actually a creation from another external source. In my limited perspective, i can't imagine how that could be, but you never know.

i'm at werk. We need to symposium this with some booze and stuff.