Just for the Bucs first round pick this year and a conditional next year which will be either a third or fourth rounder. I'm just sort of confused on why this trade took so long to happen then.
I'm sure the Jets were all for making a deal long before this, it's the part about sorting out Revis' new contract bthat probably took so much time. If you're the Bucs you're not giving up a 1st round pick if the guy will end up holding out. Nice deal for both sides. But also shows that in a draft where there isnt much talent at skill positions (WR, QB, RB), teams are all of a sudden willing to giving up high picks
True, but depending how much you trust Kiper, I've heard him say in the past that beside drafting QBs in the 1st round, the next riskiest position to draft in the 1st round is D-Line. I mean the success rate is very hit or miss amongst them. And a lot of the best platyers at those positions end up being 4th rounders we've barely heard of.
But it is weird the way teams are throwing around draft picks this year. In recent years they've seem to be so coveted that even 3rd round picks were like gold involving trades
You actually value Kiper's opinion?
Ok- Useless draft discussion question:
Name your favorite team. Then tell me who you want them to draft at the pick they have. Or tell me if they should trade up or trade down to get a guy. But if you say "trade up", try and not be too delusional about it.
Mine- The Vikings.
Picks 23 and 25. Even though they made the playoffs last season, they have a lot of needs at a lot of different positions. I think they trade one of those picks and trade back into the 2nd round. So with their 1 first-rounder, I think they'll get Keenan Allen from Cal. If he's not available, they'll get the WR Patterson. If Teo is around in round 2, THE VIKINGS WILL TAKE HIM THERE.
Vikings wanna trade up. And Miami is the possible suitor. If Miami and Kc figure out the Brandon Albert trade, Miami will drop and get the pick back they gave up for Albert. Then again, Sf wants to move into the top 15 now, and they have a pile of picks.
All 3 will be gone by pick 4.
Philly has pick 4. Theyre considering dropping down to get the 2nd rd pick back that they lost and select Geno Smith ( yuck ). Ideally Dion Jordan would be great, but Lane Johnson fits the offensive scheme perfectly. im gonna cut a bitch if they take a qb.
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Since they only have a total of five picks this year, the Patriots will probably trade their first for a 3rd and a 4th or 5th.
But this is nothing new....
I definitely remembering hearing that he declined an invitation a while ago.
Tom, who would you like to see the Cards get?
I would like to see them pick up Eddie Lacy from Alabama. I don’t watch a lot of college football but he seems like a big, physical runner who would also be good with pass protection. I think it would make life for Rodgers a lot easier if they had a RB to pick up tough yards and give him a little more time to pass. Also, the defense needs some help. I would like to see someone who can play well on the opposite side of Matthews. Nick Perry is supposed to fill that role but he was injured most of last season. It would really help out the secondary if they could get any sort of pass rush.
Raiders - #3. I want them to trade down a few spots to get some extra picks which they desperately need. Rumor is there is a lot of interest by a few teams to trade up into our spot, namely Lions, Browns, Cards and Fins, but who knows whats real and whats bullshit at this point. If they stay at #3, I'd prefer a DT like Floyd or Star, but would happy with one of the top DEs also. Although they've said they will pick best player available so they could also pick one of the big 3 OTs too, which wouldn't be the worst thing ever.
Let's go on a livin' spree!
I don’t think Lacy would be a bad pick at all. They haven’t had a good RB in the Aaron Rodgers era and could use one. Yes, everyone knows they need more help on the defensive side of the ball, especially with Woodson gone, but the Packers are great at developing players. Plus finding a good RB is rare now and can really change an offense.
I think the biggest problem with the Packers defense is Dom Capers. He is terrible at making in game changes. When the Pack played the 49ers in the playoffs last year they had a shot at winning after the 1st half but Harbaugh made changes. What did Capers do? Nothing but sit in his booth with a stupid look on his face.
The Packers NEVER RUN THE BALL...A high draft pick would be wasted on a RB.
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They ran it when they won the super bowl, so I think thats a sign.
Oh, and time for a good laugh.
Chargers - Fisher, Joeckel, Johnson or Fluker in that order. However, I think they will all be gone so just best defensive player available.
I did a Predict the Pick entry for NFL.com and here's the list I submitted last night. Note that this is strictly in the order players will get drafted, not by specific team. Trades came into play for mine.
1. Eric Fisher
2. Geno Smith
3. Luke Joeckel
4. Lane Johnson
5. Star Lotulelei
6. Dion Jordan
7. Barkevious Mingo
8. Tavon Austin
9. E.J. Manuel
10. D.J. Fluker
11. Dee Milliner
12. Jonathan Cooper
13. Arthur Brown
14. Xavier Rhodes
15. Kenny Vaccaro
16. Keenan Allen
17. Ziggy Ansah
18. Chance Warmack
19. Tank Carradine
20. Alec Ogletree
21. John Cyprien
22. Eric Reid
23. DeAndre Hopkins
24. Sheldon Richardson
25. Sharrif Floyd
26. Menelik Watson
27. Cordarrelle Patterson
28. Desmond Trufant
29. Bjoern Werner
30. Ryan Nassib
31. Tyler Eifert
32. Justin Hunter