Except he's lost the team. I don't know how a head coach can recover from that.
And, he's a horrible, horrible talent evaluator. He finds guys he likes and sticks to them even though they suck. They drafted a mediocre WR with the #15 pick last year when the team had a crying need for an OT and there were good ones on the board.
The AFC is so bad that the Browns are only two back of the final wild card spot with three games to play. It most certainly won't happen but the fact that my team isn't mathematically eliminated at 5-8 is funny and I will grasp at any last straw I can to make the season more interesting for myself.
8-8 could get you in the playoffs in the AFC this year.
heard Carroll let Flynn throw the ball with little time left in the game. What an arse.
Also, as was pointed out, it was the Saints who lost to Seattle. The Bears beat Seattle the following week.
Chances are extremely slim considering Cleveland has to travel to play Denver on the road in week 16 and the Broncos are fighting for a first round bye. The Washington game this Saturday looks more winnable especially with RG3 potentially out (or banged up at the very least). That Steelers game in Pittsburgh in week 17 also looks much more winnable with the way Pittsburgh has played of late.
I could still see Cleveland losing out and finishing 5-11. It's more probable than them finishing 8-8. But this is the latest in the season the Browns have had any glimmer of hope since 2007 and I am going to suck it up as much as possible for at least one more week.
I think if the Cardinals decide to fire Whiz and get a new coach, I really hope they dont go with Ray Horton. We need a proven commodity like Gruden or Bill Cowher. If we hire Ray Horton just so that we don't lose him would be a big mistake. It sucks being an Arizona sports fan right now, the Cardinals suck, the Suns suck, and that means the the bandwagon fans are going to jump off.
Not Cowher, no. Gruden, eh, I dunno. The more I think about this I'd rather keep Whisenhunt, fire Graves (or change his duties) and bring in a guy who is a proven expert at player selection and talent evaluation. Put him in charge of the roster and just let Whisenhunt coach football.
This morning on ESPN they were speculating if Nick Saban would like another crack at the NFL. That would be very interesting.
The Cardinals were doing pretty well under Kolb. He got hurt and we have all seen what Skelton and Lindley have been able to do. Kolb's too injury prone to be relied on going forward though.
The thing is, blaming Whisenhunt's problems on not having a QB is kind of silly... since he and Graves have been the ones responsible for getting a QB in here when Warner retired. So the failure is his.
The Cardinals with Kolb at QB did look good. The problem with Kolb (though I hate this line because its hard to predict injuries yet believe it to be true) is that he is injury prone. It's very hard to justify paying a QB the money Kolb is getting when you know he's going to get hurt. Although if the Cardinals had the Suns training staff maybe it wouldn't be such a problem (hey fellas, you're both IN Arizona can we make this happen, maybe?).
Also, the blame is completely on Whisenhunt. As I stated before, it is his job to make his QB's successful. He does that by making them play in his system. That....just.....doesnt....work. Look at Alex Smith in SF....he was a subpar quarterback under Singletary, who people questioned whether he was an NFL QB or not. Harbaugh comes in and adjusts his system to Alex Smith strengths and look what happened...
I'm not saying Whisenhunt could make magic happen with the likes of Derek Anderson, Max Hall, and John Skelton but maybe he could've if he adjusted his system to something they would be successful under and not keeping the mindset, "well if Kurt Warner can do it and it works for him, then maybe it could work for everyone."
I will echo some things you said, Tom. Overall, I think Whiz is a good coach. I won't be at all surprised to see him have success elsewhere. I've met him, had lunch with him; he knows football. I think he was dealt a losing hand, BUT he also needs to take responsibility for some of the decisions he has made. Plus, like many coaches, he suffers from too much hubris; they tend to hang on to "bad decisions", or be too loyal because they can't believe they could be wrong...Derek Anderson, Mike Miller, Russ Grimm, John Skelton, Kevin Kolb, etc...the list goes on.
I agree that the only one worth keeping is Horton, and I won't be surprised if he ends up the head coach. Remember, the Bidwill's are cheap bastards. They will have to eat $5.5 mil to get rid of Whiz.