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    I don't understand your take on the word "modern" but this isn't about me.
    Thanks for the suggestions, John. "Modern" generally encompasses turn of the 20th century onward. Poe sneaks in under the wire because of his unusual genre contributions. I've thought about Kafka, too, but I feel like with Poe included I've cornered the market on morbidity. Borges, however, is an interesting thought. It's been a while since I've read him, and he's probably due for revisiting.
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    Borges and Barthelme should be on your list, methinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmgaretjax View Post
    It IS transparent. It's the kind of things you predict a few pages into the book. It's naive to pretend that complexity is automatically attributed because motivations are confused. It's a great start, but the problem is that it stops there. It doesn't extend any further, and so the characters end up as prop-ups for immature themes (some of which you listed above) that are also not fully explored. This is futile, unless I'm willing to go back after a year and re-read it to put together some more exact examples.

    What I will do instead is recommend another book:

    Wittgenstein's Mistress by David Markson is an incredibly book in the vein of James Joyce and Samuel Beckett. The pseudo-narrative revolves around a woman who believes herself to be the last person on earth. The novel are her memoirs tracing her experiences alone visiting historical locations, reflecting on artists and writers, and attempting to reconstruct some events in her life. She tells many of the stories many times, and you begin to question her as certain facts change and events begin to signify different meanings. Her sanity is called in question by these occurrences, and also personally in by her in her memoirs.

    The book is a fantastic deconstruction of personal memory, madness, and how culture and history inform these elements.

    Best book I have read this year.

    I am glad I avoided this discussion.

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    I have nothing new to add to this thread, except that I have been listening to the song "Put A Penny In The Slot" by Fionn Regan a lot lately, simply because it contains the following lyrics:

    'For the loneliness you foster
    I suggest Paul Auster
    And a book called Timbuktu'
    "The first time I heard the new single off the Bravery album, I actually cried, and I do not even remember the name of that damn song. It reminded me of this girl I am in love with." - kroqken

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    I finished All Over But the Shouting a week ago and have started in on Denis Johnson's Tree of Smoke. but as i mentioned in another thread I got Michael Chabon's Gentlemen of the Road for Christmas and it's really fun and hard to put down so I guess I'm reading two novels at once and trying not to get the plots and characters confused.

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    I am reading Barthelmes "The Dead Father." I love it.

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    I just got some used copies of All the Pretty Horses, and the Crossing by McCarthy. I'll be starting those soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmgaretjax View Post
    I am reading Barthelmes "The Dead Father." I love it.
    That was a great book.


    Also I really liked the one Denis Johnson book I read. I think it was called Resussication of a Hanged Man.


    I have been slowly moving through Judy Budnitz's first book of short stories. I think I may quit trying soon because each time I sit down to start I fall asleep before reading a word. I like her stories but the idea of reading them is not grabbing me at this time. I think I need to switch to a novel.

    Fortunately I got a couple for my birthday - Infinite Jest (DFW) and The Road (CM) and a couple for Christmas - Market Forces (RKM) and Terranesia (GE) so that's what I'm going to do.
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    I just read Freakonomics and will now be moving on to The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat.

    I have about 10 books I want to read over break and none of them are fiction. This makes me feel like a terrible person.

    I do have Franny and Zooey checked out from the library though.

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    Keriann I like your choices of books. Those are all books that I really enjoyed reading.

    I read Freakanomics recently followed by Hardboiled Wonderland and the End of the World. Now I am maybe starting The Omnivore's Dilemma, which I received as a Christmas present.

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    I'm reading The Year of Living Biblically, "One man's humble quest to follow the bible as literally as possible." It's by this guy A.J. Jacobs and he wrote a book about reading the entire encyclopedia A-Z. It's funny and interesting. He uses like 18 different versions/translations of the bible and gets advice from a plethora of religious people, Orthodox Jews, Secular Jews Creationists, Amish, Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics, Protestants, everybody bible related. He hasn't gotten to the new testament yet. The whole thing's written with a real sense of humor but it's also pretty enlightening.

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    He can't touch impure women!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    That sounds like a great read foi. I bought The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference.

    I also discovered that I cannot read through anything that is fictional, I get half way and just give up. I dont know why.

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    Just assign the characters the identities of real people in your life and pretend it's all really happening. Please make me the one that can fly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by full on idle View Post
    Just assign the characters the identities of real people in your life and pretend it's all really happening. Please make me the one that can fly.
    I can do that, but then as Im reading you are always going to be flying, and it will confuse the shit out of me because then I'll think I wonder if she has ever flown to the Bahamas? Does she have to look out for planes or birds? Does she follow FAA regulations? Does she ever get tired? what if she gets tired over water? ect ect ect

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    I just finished reading Brave New World for the first time. Very interesting. It is a good book. Read it if you have time to spare.
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    I try to be politically pc more than most here: As a dude, anyone who could put a shark up a gals pc body, is pretty creepy, different and interesting. Just saying big time ..... cr****

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    In the last month I've read the complete short stories of John Cheever, Flannery O'Connor, and Ernest Hemingway. I'm a couple hundred pages into William Faulkner's short stories. Still to come: Raymond Carver and Edgar Allan Poe. Exams in approximately seven weeks.
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    Yay Bill Faulkner.

    If you feel like writing things on Cheever and/or Carver so that I know who they are and if their works might interest me I would read these things you wrote. I will completely understand if this just makes it feel like you have another assignment and that this makes you want to slice open my liver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mountmccabe View Post
    Yay Bill Faulkner.

    If you feel like writing things on Cheever and/or Carver so that I know who they are and if their works might interest me I would read these things you wrote. I will completely understand if this just makes it feel like you have another assignment and that this makes you want to slice open my liver.
    I'm enjoying Faulkner quite a bit. I hadn't read many of his stories before, and they're pretty fantastic. I'll whip up a synopsis of Cheever and Carver a little later, when I'm not attempting to entertain my teenage cousins.
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    I'm reading Mutants: On Genetic Variety and the Human Body by Armand Leroi. It is incredibly interesting, and there are lots of fascinating case studies and photos.
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    I just read Freakonomics and will now be moving on to The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat.

    I have about 10 books I want to read over break and none of them are fiction. This makes me feel like a terrible person.

    I do have Franny and Zooey checked out from the library though.
    I loved Franny and Zooey. I'm about to start Chuck Klosterman IV and possibly Less Than Zero by Easton Ellis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by full on idle View Post
    I'm reading The Year of Living Biblically
    That sounds awesome.

    I like that people are talking about books. I want to join a book club. I am a nerd.

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    I like the idea behind book clubs but in practice it seems they seldom pan out.
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    Yeah I have never actually partaken of one so I don't really know. They have a few at the library though that I was thinking could potentially be cool but I doubt anyone in their 20s attends them. It is probably mostly 65 year olds. And I'm sure they have interesting things to say but I sure would like to meet some literate folk who are my age.

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    Did we try to do a book club here or am I thinking of something else?
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    It would be easy to find something available free as an etext and then see how that works and then maybe expand from there if it is good.
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    I like your ideas, John. Godspeed.
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    Maybe I am thinking of the bit where we sent books to randomly drawn people and Tom sent me an awful novel he didn't like and Greg didn't read the book he got from Valarie and Kristen liked the book I sent her.
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    We did discuss starting one. I think the consensus was generally that people don't really have enough time. I really only have time this month. Then it's back to the grind.

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    Then somebody should pick something from somewhere like Project Gutenberg (or wherever) quick so we can get going!

    Maybe I shouldn't pick because I'd pick something like The Queen of Spades by Pushkin but it is shorter than necessary and also I don't know if anyone else wants to read Pushkin as much as I do.
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