Smashing Pumpkins U.S. Tour 2008/2009

[bballarl]

The version they did on the Mellon Collie tour where they jammed on it big time is pretty awesome. I can send you a bootleg when I am back in LA if you want.

[TallGuyCM]

So I was planning a Europe trip in the summer of '07, and really needed to save cash for it. But I happened to randomly pull up a ticket on Ticketmaster for the SP Santa Cruz show, and couldn't not go.

I was worried, because they had been playing some super obscure songs that I don't really care for, but I went anyway. Got there around 2:30, and unlike the Fillmore shows where people lined up from 5am on, there were only 20 people in line, and I ended up being two people from the stage.

And the setlist fucking KILLED:

Main Set :
United States
Bleeding the Orchid
Today
Starz
Zero
Drown
Hummer
Doomsday Clock
Lucky 13
Starla
Thirty-Three
Rocket
To Sheila
Tonight, Tonight
Tarantula
Stand Inside Your Love
Disarm
1979
Bullet with Butterfly Wings
That's the Way (My Love Is)
Heavy Metal Machine


Encore 1 :
Cherub Rock


Encore 2 :
Death from Above
Gossamer

[getbetter]

Drown live is would make me like any set.My personal favorite from the pumpkins.By any chance was it acoustic?

[bballarl]

I kind of liked "Gossamer." There is a version on Youtube where the dude from Scorpions (Uli John Roth?) came out and played a guitar with like eight strings.







Such wankery. Gotta love it.

[superfiction]

Adjusting for inflation, that's like $500 today.

i LOL'd hard

[seyrnon]

top three would probably be

1. Mayonaise
2. Geek U.S.A.
3. Tonight, Tonight

[patriotsftbll786]

1. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
2. Rhinoceros
3. Siva

[faxman75]

As far as newer Pumpkins songs go I like Doomsday Clock.

[TallGuyCM]

Drown live is would make me like any set.My personal favorite from the pumpkins.By any chance was it acoustic?

No, it was electric. Which is the only way I would want it, because if it was acoustic you wouldn't get the 4 or 5 minutes at the end of feedback and Billy fucking with the amps.

[obzen]

1. Rhinoceros
2. Eye
3. Here Is No Why

Honorable mention - Quiet/1979.

[TallGuyCM]

Hell yes, some more Here is No Why love. So so overlooked.

[MuseRadio]

hahaha Mellon Collie is just so damn good. Such a versatile album with so many different styles. No doubt in my top 5 albums of all time.

[superfiction]

you have got to be fucking kidding me

bassist Ginger Reyes has left the band. Today she issued a press release, which states, “Although I’ve been blessed beyond belief over the past few years through playing with the Pumpkins, my priority now is to keep our little family unit together, which includes my husband and my baby.”

but much like teenage drummer Mike Byrne, you could be a member lackey of the Pumpkins, too! In fact, if you get your application materials together — a YouTube video should suffice — and send ‘em to pumpkinsbass@gmail.com or pumpkinskeys@gmail.com by March 31st, you might just be the next person who Corgan orders around.

[ShyGuy75]

1. Silverfuck
2. Mayonaise
3. Siva

[rskapcat]

1. Drown
2. Soma
3. Rhinocerous

[faxman75]

you have got to be fucking kidding me

We've known the band was just Billy and the young drummer for a couple months now. Billy explained in an interview a while back that she was starting a family and wouldn't really be around. I think it was in the interview where he said he would be playing Coachella and beyond this year which was obviously him just trying to sound relevant. I don't think much media picked up on anything in that interview and it was really long and mostly boring but that's where Billy basically said it was him and the drummer in the studio and the other members of the last touring band were not going to be around.

Jim Dero talked about it today in his column as well amongst other things regarding the great pumpkins, it's an amusing read.

Jim Derogotis Chicago Sun Times

For many fans, the Smashing Pumpkins haven't really been the Smashing Pumpkins since bandleader Billy Corgan parted ways with drummer Jimmy Chamberlin, the last remaining original member.

And the sounds that Corgan has crafted in the new millennium have more or less marked him as the sadly spent but still wildly egotistical Dennis DeYoung of his generation.

Nevertheless, for those who still care or truly are desperate for work, the Great Pumpkin's publicists have announced that he will be holding open auditions for a new bassist and a keyboardist "who is a fan of--and can play in the prog-rock style of--Jon Lord and Rick Wakeman." (They were in Deep Purple and Yes, respectively, kids.)

The same methodology was used to find current drummer Mike Byrne last year. Current faux-Pumpkins bassist Ginger Pooley allegedly left the band to raise her new baby--but take that with a grain of salt. It now turns out that Corgan's last parting with Chamberlin was not nearly as amicable as portrayed by his hype merchants at the time.

In a controversial new interview with Rolling Stone, Corgan now claims he fired Chamberlin. He also whines that, "There's a lot of days where you feel forgotten" (though probably not as forgotten as D'Arcy Wretzky).

The full interview is not online, but Rolling Stone does have a hype blurb with some choice quotes up here. It notes:

In a soul-baring, wide-ranging interview, Corgan discusses the idiosyncratic spiritual beliefs that saved him from suicidal depression (including his association with a vintage hippie cult called Source Family); opens up for the first time about his 2009 split with drummer Jimmy Chamberlin (Corgan says he fired him); reveals his father's heroin addiction (his dad was arrested two years ago with a needle still in his arm); says that he "loves" Jessica Simpson; and much more...
Corgan on His Critics: "Do I belong in the conversation about the best artists in the world? My answer is yes, I do," he says. "I've been too productive for too long, and despite what anybody wants to strip away from me, I am influential. I am. So all the Pitchforks in the world can try to strip me of every ounce of dignity, but I belong."
On the Pumpkins' Breakup: "Rather than break up the band, what I should have done is chuck James [Iha] out," Corgan says. "I should have just said to Jimmy [Chamberlin], 'You go to rehab, and we'll continue, and James, get the f--- out of here.' Instead, I fell on my sword for James, for what I thought was a friend."
On His Spiritual Beliefs: Corgan subscribes to the fashionable idea that we're building to a cataclysm, or at least a major vibrational shift, in 2012; he wonders what was really in the H1N1 vaccine; he fears that the United States is headed toward a Soviet Union-style economic collapse... But when pressed on details, he backs off: "I don't want to be a dead hero," he says.

On "Loving" Jessica Simpson: "If I go, 'Oh, we're just friends,' then it's like, 'Did they go out, did he dump her or she dump him, what happened?' It has nothing to do with any of that. Sometimes people just like being around each other, and good things come out of that. My goal in life is to love whoever I think is worth loving, and I think if people knew her like I knew her, they would love her like I do. It's really simple."


Meanwhile, the music world yawns and prepares for three nights of "American Idol."

I've bolded the fun parts if you don't want to read it all.

[superfiction]

i already posted that interview a few pages back. and also i knew shed left already i was just pointing out he's trying to assemble a band of youtube losers. i just added the other bit for people who didnt know shed left

[shakermaker113]

i was just pointing out he's trying to assemble a band of youtube losers.

imagine if he came and tried to recruit here.

[faxman75]

i already posted that interview a few pages back. and also i knew shed left already i was just pointing out he's trying to assemble a band of youtube losers. i just added the other bit for people who didnt know shed left

Word, I wasn't trying to flame you or anything, like I said it was burried in that long interview about nonsense. It sounds like the Rolling Stone interview will be more of that nonsense.

The most fascinating part about Billy these days are his thoughts on the illuminaiti, his weird religious beliefs and thoughts on 2012 and conspiracy theories in general. It seems he's matured a little from his previous wrestling fandom.

[faxman75]

On "Loving" Jessica Simpson: "If I go, 'Oh, we're just friends,' then it's like, 'Did they go out, did he dump her or she dump him, what happened?' It has nothing to do with any of that. Sometimes people just like being around each other, and good things come out of that. My goal in life is to love whoever I think is worth loving, and I think if people knew her like I knew her, they would love her like I do. It's really simple."

This part reads like a high schooler who can't figure out if the chick likes him back so he's explaining what love means at age 14.

[TallGuyCM]

So did anyone catch their performance on Leno last night???

WHAT THE FUCK. I mean, I had low expectations. But the drummer looks like the kid from Two and a Half Men, they had what looked to be a very bored Christian kids choir singing, and I'd say half the reason I would ever see SP live again would be to drool over Ginger Reyes, but now SHE'S not even in the band?!???

And the song sucked, too. It was one of those first ones that was released a few months ago. Sounded like a kindergarten version of "Honestly", but worse.

[PJandBompton]

Reyes isn't in the band anymore? what the fuck?

[MuseRadio]

She just had a kid and wants to focus on her family.

[hawkingvsreeve]

Yeah, sorry guys. That was my bad.

[bballarl]

Boom.

[shakermaker113]

she's old enough to have a kid?

[hawkingvsreeve]

Yes, she is at least 12/13/14.

[kroqken]

Smashing Pumpkins is headlining the Sunset Strip Street Festival in a couple of months. I think there is also a tribute to Slash.

[skyismad]

They are playing the Viper Room tonight, if anyone cares.

I have no idea if anyone cares.

[menikmati]

no one does