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    Quote Originally Posted by Drinkey McDrinkerstein View Post
    Uh yes, several people have discussed on the last 2 pages of this thread.
    Sorry, I ran a search in this thread before asking and the results for "skin," brought up some movie entitled, Mysterious Skin.

    I'll flip back a few pages and read what was said.
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    Mysterious Skin is also a masterpiece, so you should see them both.
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    Yes, Mysterious Skin is amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schoolofruckus View Post
    only two major wipeouts (Noah and Joe).
    I thought Joe was pretty good. Nic Cage and the kid did a good job in their roles. Why did you not like it - you have big expectations going in b/c of DGG and the cast?
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    I haven't had big expectations for a David Gordon Green movie in many years, but this was the first one that I consider to be a genuine failure (even The Sitter was, at least, more amusing than its rep, even if it's no better than all the films Green used to savage back when he was a wunderkind artiste). Basically, I thought Joe was phony, visually dull (which, aside from The Sitter, has never been the case in Green's work before) and the opposite of cohesive. The first act with the guys in the field was pretty good, but almost none of those characters have any significance later in the film; the climax mainly revolves around two characters who have virtually no presence in the movie until well past the 90 minute mark. The father character is well-played, but his nature and actions make no sense from one scene to the next - not even in the context of his being an abusive drunk. The stuff with the hookers and the girl that foists herself onto Joe had no meaning. I liked Tye Sheridan's performance, but I thought Cage was terrible - he simply cannot play an authentic hard drinker (I don't give a fuck that the Oscars say otherwise), and he only got less convincing as the scenarios became more overwrought. Basically, the only way the film could hang together, for me, is looking at it as an intentional pastiche of all of DGG's previous movies - almost every one has some kind of connective tissue to what happens in Joe (though I couldn't find a match for All the Real Girls), but since I'm applying this thesis to one of the most disparate, what-the-fuck filmographies of the modern age, the result is a movie that seemed to have NO idea what the fuck it is. Plus, the photography is all drab standard film-school coverage, until the sudden voiceover montage in the middle (straight out of Green's early Malick-thieving) - so it doesn't even succeed as sensory experience.

    I acknowledge that this will probably be a minority opinion, much like my take on Short Term 12.
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    Mysterious Skin is pretty good but extremely overwrought. You can make the points Araki was trying to make without the excess. And that ending was terrible.
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    I finally made it through a listen of Sun Kil Moon - Benji and had put it on maybe 4 times til I could finally feel mentally like, "just fuck it just let this guy blabber on" while I'm doing paperwork .
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    I would throw you in prison if I could.
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    You really think he had to go to the point of having two children fist a man to tell a graphic story of pedophilia? And as a huge Sigur Ros fan yourself you didn't find that ending completely forced and laughably sappy? I didn't dislike the film, but if anyone's going to prison it's Gregg Araki, having been found guilty on 9 counts of sensationalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by getbetter View Post
    I finally made it through a listen of Sun Kil Moon - Benji and had put it on maybe 4 times til I could finally feel mentally like, "just fuck it just let this guy blabber on" while I'm doing paperwork .
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    You could not be more off-base. It's literally one of my favorite endings/movies of all time, and the bombastic style is essential to the film's (and Gordon-Levitt's) character. As for the first question, I have to flip it around - what is the purpose of asking films portraying violence or abuse to set boundaries and pull back on the harsher material?
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    Ahhh, now I remember, Mysterious Skin. I've dl'd it, but forgot I had it, cos I haven't been in the right frame of mind to watch it. Though, I'm not quite sure what the right frame of mind is that will assist me in watching this somewhat disturbing movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schoolofruckus View Post
    As for the first question, I have to flip it around - what is the purpose of asking films portraying violence or abuse to set boundaries and pull back on the harsher material?
    No one's asking films to pull back. It's more a matter of when the line between good intent and mere shock value is crossed.
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    I finally made it through a listen of Sun Kil Moon - Benji and had put it on maybe 4 times til I could finally feel mentally like, "just fuck it just let this guy blabber on" while I'm doing paperwork .
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    I feel like those scenes were done with as much tact as possible given the subject matter. It has been years since I've seen that movie, though.
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    Exactly. Chris, I don't know what movie you're thinking of, but it's not as though Araki photographed Mysterious Skin in some Mel Gibson-esque, lovingly slow motion close-ups of heinous violent shit - basically all of the sexual acts involving children occur outside the frame. Which makes your unnerved reaction (akin to those who swore they saw nudity and knife-into-flesh in Psycho only further proof of how expertly it was achieved.
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    Yes, I must side with Gabe on this. The extremities of the abuses to me are necessary to illustrate the psychological and emotional impact they had on the characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schoolofruckus View Post
    Exactly. Chris, I don't know what movie you're thinking of, but it's not as though Araki photographed Mysterious Skin in some Mel Gibson-esque, lovingly slow motion close-ups of heinous violent shit - basically all of the sexual acts involving children occur outside the frame. Which makes your unnerved reaction (akin to those who swore they saw nudity and knife-into-flesh in Psycho only further proof of how expertly it was achieved.
    It all comes down to subjectivity, of course, and I just don't have a high threshold for the topic in general. And what you and Andrew are saying isn't untrue, but what about when a young JGL is explaining to the boy what the coach has been doing while the boy is laying down, and the kid flat out plants his face in the kid's crotch? I dunno, man. A lot of it seemed to seek to desensitize the viewer with shocking acts like that.
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    You're right, it is subjective. For me, in this movie, I thought it all worked. Also, I hated the other Araki movies I have seen, so i am definitely not apologetic for him in general.
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    Shoot, I need to see that again. I don't remember any of that. I think I was too excited to hear (more) Curve music in another Araki soundtrack.
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    Well, I wouldn't say I do have a high threshold for watching depictions of child rape - it had the same horrifying effect on me. But it is a fact (not a subjective statement) that the child sex in Mysterious Skin occurs almost completely off-screen, and in conversations/narration that are graphic, but not substantially more so than many other movies (subjective), only more eloquent and nuanced than just about any of them (subjective).
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    Eat shit X-Men: Days of Futures Pederast...






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    Hahahaha. You guys are still debating the "five dollar game." JGL won fair and square. Time to move on.

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    You are referring to a conversation that hasn't been continued for 5 days.
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    Two really big 2013 releases recently added to Netflix Instant - Jia Zhangke's A Touch of Sin (finally!) and Claire Denis' massively disturbing Bastards.
    Watched this last night, really good. It's nice to see someone make a film involving four separate stories that don't all have to link together a la Babel or Amores Perros. The section involving the sauna worker was particularly great.
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    Adam Driver, Oscar Isaac and Max Von Sydow have been cast in the new Star Wars movie. Didn't recognize any of the other new cast members but I'm actually excited for this one.

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    now they just need to fire Abrams and hire anyone else and were set!

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    John Boyega played Moses in Attack The Block and it's about time he got part in something really big.
    Andy Serkis is known for his amazing mo-cap work - he has played Golem in all the Lord of the Rings films, King Kong is Jackon's version, Caeser in the Planet of the Apes prologues.
    Domhnall Gleeson is an irish actor whom has had a lot of small parts including one the Weasley brothers in the Harry Potter series. He was recently Levin in Ana Karenina and was great in it.
    Daisy Ridley thus far has only had small roles in several BBC shows.
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    I'm not a huge fan of Abrams but his two Star Trek movies were a lot of fun. I'm cautiously optimistic. I'm hoping that Oscar Isaac is the new lead. I also hope that Max Von Sydow manages to stay alive for the duration of the project. They could have cast him as an old man during the original Star Wars in the early 70s.

    EDIT: Fuck, I forgot about Serkis. Hopefully he just plays himself rather than voicing some stupid creature but the odds probably aren't high.

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    The odds are even more that he would do physical mocap of a character that someone else might voice.
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    I really hope they don't go the route all nerd movies are going now, and just make it bleak. I would like to see some of the whimsical charm stay, but with Abams at the helm I am skeptical.
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    You thought the last 2 Star Trek movies were bleak?
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    I guess dark is a better word. I'm just sick and annoyed that every comic/sci-fi/nerd movie since The Dark Knight has to be dark.
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