At the very least it was an honest depiction of effects that a combat environment have on the psyche of men who have served. The movie ends with the main character basically admitting that he's no longer fit to be a husband and a father. That the military has ruined him, to a certain extent.
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Hurt Locker to me always felt like something more along the lines of Full Metal and Apocalypse Now but on a much smaller scale--a character piece about how to be effective in war a man has to lose his sanity. I really don't get the pro-troop angle of it you're portraying. I mean, it's not anti-troop but I don't really think it's about them being heroes--it's about how becoming a perfect soldier means giving up parts of the man you were back in the real world that you can never get back. That resonated with me a lot and a big part of why I enjoyed it was that I thought it didn't lose itself in trying to portray the soldiers as being great men. The main character is a fucking psycho by all accounts. He's not doing this because he believes in America or to defend his family or any of that shit. He's not even doing it because he cares who win. He's doing it because he's so fucked in the head he doesn't know how to be anything else anymore.
How that message can be said to be a pro-troop piece of jingoism is really odd to me.
i come in somewhere in the middle on hurt locker... there is a bit of combat as adrenaline-junky glorification there that bugs me, but for the most part lacks the hero worship of most military flicks. ZDT was way more problematic in my mind.
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In response to both Bobby and Randy.... I don't necessarily wish to get into a huge Hurt Locker debate either (especially because I haven't seen it in three years and it didn't stick with me at all) but this:
Gabe, did you ever make it out to Like Someone in Love?
Yeah but that's not the point. I wasn't comparing the quality of Hurt Locker to Full Metal Jacket, but there's a limited number of films you can use to try to demonstrate a thematic difference between war movies. It feels like the movie is getting indicted more by social factors going on during its release--my feelings watching Generation Kill (which was never anything but positive) is different now than it was when the series was released at the height of "this war is stupid" fervor. I focus more on character attributes now than I did then when it was a more current expose of the fucked up mess we were in as a country. Perhaps revisiting it now that there's some distance, now that we're no longer in the middle of all The Hurt Locker praise (I've noticed you tend to react pretty severely when movies are getting a lot of hype and you think they're just mediocre, Gabe) would clear things up.
There's just nothing about it that makes me say "this is supporting the military." I guess Lethal Weapon is kind of an accurate analogy except that LW definitely had to contrive the circumstances for the character's disposition a lot more. I mean, what the fuck kind of person would volunteer to disarm bombs in Iraq? Somebody apparently is, but I find it hard to imagine any of them being particularly emotionally stable. Is it really unfair to be portraying the story of those men as soldiers hooked on taking a chance with their lives? If anything I give it credit for not pumping out more of the "look at how heroic this guy is" angle and instead focusing more on how he doesn't even think about himself in those terms.
There are a lot of talented filmmakers who've made absolutely shitty, myopic depictions of war. See: Platoon. That was penned by somebody who was actually there in the war and still his take on it ended up feeling shallow and immature. Hurt Locker never really slipped off that cliff for me but it did ride kinda close to it at the end with the little kid bomb. I still think the ending did a really nice job of explaining the whole character with just a shot of him in the supermarket. It was well handled and subtle.
Whereas when Hurt Locker ended, I desired to become a rogue bad ass who did shit with reckless abandon and had an emotional side. To me much more of war cheerleader theme.
Zdt, at least the first half, led me to rethink military tactics and the miligramesque effects that being an interrogator has on people. Although I enjoyed hurt locker more, I would argue that Zdt is more due for the best picture because it is more thought provoking which is the what the Oscars seem to prefer.
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So I know I am a little bit late to the Compliance discussion but I finally got around to watching it last night. If I didn't know it was based off a true story I probably would have loved it. Unfortunately I just kept finding myself frustrated with it because it's hard for me to believe that the people in real life that this happened to actually let it happen. It really took a maintenance man a few hours later to realize something wasn't right? I get fast food workers aren't the smartest of people but really? Granted I don't know what was really said over the phone and only have the movie phone call and it probably was exaggerated for the movie. Overall though I wouldn't call the movie wonderful but it was pretty good.
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The difference here is that at least in III, the first third of the film is over the top on purpose to show us how far from reality Rocky is, until his defeat brings him to down to earth, and the rest of the film returns to a reality closer to where we had been before (though Rocky is still inexplicably smart). IV is pure cheese from frame one and never stops. The Cold War is fought and won by Stallone, but not before some pretty clichéd training montages, complete with that "Hearts on Fire" 80's relic blasting. Oh, and can we mention Paulie's new robot? Hate Part V all you want for almost ending the series on a slight downer, lame Don King-esque characters and all, but at least it didn't feel like a cartoon.
I also didn't love the movie, but it's very entertaining, and is one of the only occasions where I thought the movie was much, much better than the source material. I hate mark Millar, thought the book was garbage. James Gunn's Super is a far superior movie.
The Kick Ass 2 trailer was a lot of fun.
I'm so excited to see the Veronica Mars Movie kick starter at over $1.5 million in just a few hours!