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    I am by no means a recent Spielberg fan, and the trailer for Lincoln looked god-awful (Gabe and I laughed at it when we saw The Master,) but I really loved the movie. There were a few moments of cheese, but by and large it was very well done and captivating. Not at all what I expected either, very much a political drama.
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    I haven't read the source material, but Minority Report is so much damn fun. It's great sci fi pulp. The scene with Peter Stormare is some of the best stuff Spielberg has ever done.
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    I haven't read the source material, but Minority Report is so much damn fun. It's great sci fi pulp. The scene with Peter Stormare is some of the best stuff Spielberg has ever done.
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    In "The Minority Report" Anderton is fat, old and balding. He is a typical Dickian protagonist in that he is half-incompetent and unsure of himself. In the film he is played by Tom Cruise and is a superhuman (though, to be fair, he is a divorced drug addict).

    In the short story two of the pre-cogs think Anderton will kill a General and one of them (the minority report) says that he will not; the fact that there is a minority report and that Anderton hears about the reports that drive the story. In Minority Report there is no actual minority report, the pre-cogs agree on what Anderton will do. The film is about the pre-cogs and pre-crime (or, rather, pre-muder) but they are not integral to the plot.

    In the Dick version the minority report is explained and Anderton kills the General, realizing that he must. Pre-crime is affirmed, even in such complicated situations. In Spielberg's version Anderton says, no, I have free will, I don't have to kill you. The pre-cogs don't actually see the future and pre-crime is a bad thing. His boss commits suicide and the system is shut down.

    Spielberg, et al took ideas from the source material and then attacked the premises and conclusions.


    I haven't seen it recently enough to remember what Stromare did but I will admit that the movie looked stylish and cool and that the computers and optical recognition systems were fantastic (though, again, because Spielberg is who he is there was no actual bite to the ads because they were real; actual businesses paid money to look futuristic and cool).

    I think Spielberg is a great technician, he is exceptionally proficient at what he does. I just hate what he does, what he wishes to present, the messages he wishes to share and promote.
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    The Master dvdrip is up on The Pirate Bay now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulb View Post
    The Master dvdrip is up on The Pirate Bay now!
    Dude. Wait for the Bluray for that one.
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    Dude. Wait for the Bluray for that one.
    This will likely be the first Bluray I buy.
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    I concur with the folks who said Lincoln was a very good film. It was definitely not a Best Picture, in my opinion, but the political intrigue and Lincoln's stories were super-entertaining.

    Personally I think film geeks bag on Spielberg way too much. Like Tarantino and Scorcese, he's a master of nailing SCENES. He may be too broad and grandiose in the stories he's telling, at times, but there are always some really, really fantastic scenes that stand out and make the film notable. Lincoln is no exception to this, nor is War Horse, Jurassic Park, etc. Crystal Skull may be, frankly I don't remember much about the movie except some flying monkeys and the retarded kid from "Transformers". And a refrigerator. I think the intro sequence with Indy was good, though.

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    War Horse was saccharine at times, although that may be part and parcel of the source material, but I thought it was a well made, entertaining film. Shoot me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmack86 View Post
    War Horse was saccharine at times, although that may be part and parcel of the source material
    Yeah, that happens when you adapt a children's novel.


    A number of people recommended seeing the play version solely because the horse puppetry was so impressive. They said that the story was cheesy and forgettable but see it anyway.
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    The play was absolutely stunning. Beyond the puppetry, it was exceptionally staged in a way i had never seen before - incredible use of minimalist props, lighting, sound effects, music, and jaw-dropping choreography.
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    Well, if the parts about using horses like machinery was true then there was a minor eye-opener for me, but other than that pretty standard cheesy war film fare. I just so happen to not hate cheese in a film if I expect it to be there from the outset, which I most certainly did.
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    Seen two films recently that I'd give a solid "A" grade. The Moroccan 'Ali Zaoua: Prince of the Streets', set in the run down port city of Casablanca, about child gangs and friendships was touching and true. Anyone who has dealt with Arab street kids should check it out for a different perspective. And 'Roman Holiday' is so much fun and really captured the feeling and sights of Rome. Audrey Hepburn is very beautiful along side Gregory Pecks' kindhearted tall, dark, and handsome romantic character. Liked the realism of the ending too.

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    This will likely be the first Bluray I buy.
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    so The Master loved Phoenix so much because he thought he could flip him, but turned sour and cold when those attempts appeared unsuccessful? That's real healthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomServo View Post
    Crystal Skull may be, frankly I don't remember much about the movie except some flying monkeys and the retarded kid from "Transformers". And a refrigerator. I think the intro sequence with Indy was good, though.
    pure and utter crap that movie was, no excuses.
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    I watched We Need to Talk About Kevin last night and I couldn't get it out of my mind afterwards. I absolutely loved Tilda Swinton's performance but the movie really left me rattled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lehorne View Post
    so The Master loved Phoenix so much because he thought he could flip him, but turned sour and cold when those attempts appeared unsuccessful? That's real healthy.
    What is this supposed to mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    I watched We Need to Talk About Kevin last night and I couldn't get it out of my mind afterwards. I absolutely loved Tilda Swinton's performance but the movie really left me rattled.
    I was bothered for weeks after I saw it. It's an great movie, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TallGuyCM View Post
    What is this supposed to mean?
    did you watch the movie? I was just commenting on the character of The Master with whole ultimatum at the end ("If you walk out of here you will be my enemy in this life and the next"). An unhealthy mentality to have. Wasn't about a loving relationship with Phoenix the man, no matter if they merrily rolled around in the grass together at times, but one of control and manipulation. Never about the person, all about the conquest. He referred to his "animal" behavior often, because he viewed him that way. Like a untrained dog. But, hey, that's The Master for ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    I watched We Need to Talk About Kevin last night and I couldn't get it out of my mind afterwards. I absolutely loved Tilda Swinton's performance but the movie really left me rattled.
    Yeah, that movie was chilling. Of course Johnny's score added to the overall freakiness of it. Tilda was amazing in it and I thought it was really well done. It seemed like it was overlooked somewhat when it came out. I'm not sure how many "Columbine" type movies the general public can handle so thats part of the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vasoline Groove View Post
    Yeah, that movie was chilling. Of course Johnny's score added to the overall freakiness of it. Tilda was amazing in it and I thought it was really well done. It seemed like it was overlooked somewhat when it came out. I'm not sure how many "Columbine" type movies the general public can handle so thats part of the problem.
    Interestingly, I read a review that speculated part of the reason she didn't receive a well deserved Oscar nomination was due to the movie's content, since the noms came out right after the incident at Sandy Hook.
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    Swinton was admittedly great, but she wasn't nominated this year because the movie was released in late 2011. And, to further be that guy, if you like the movie you should absolutely read Lionel Shriver's book. It was the first thing of hers I'd read, and it trumps the movie in virtually every way. And I love the movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roberto73 View Post
    Swinton was admittedly great, but she wasn't nominated this year because the movie was released in late 2011.
    I was going to say the same thing, but I looked it up and it actually didn't get theatrical release until January 2012, which is what determines the year of awards eligibility. It made the festival rounds in 2011, but that doesn't count as a release.
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    I thought about that, too, but IMDB has listed a December 9, 2011, New York non-festival release date. L.A.'s listed as January 20, 2012, but the New York release would trump that, right? I admit I don't know all the ins and outs of Oscar regulations, so I could be totally wrong. It's been known to happen.
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    You are correct. I have read a few different reports about the release dates. It did get a limited release in both NY and L.A. in December 2011.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drinkey McDrinkerstein View Post
    You are correct. I have read a few different reports about the release dates. It did get a limited release in both NY and L.A. in December 2011.
    However It was up for 2012 nominations - it also was included in 2012 Golden Globes noms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drinkey McDrinkerstein View Post
    You are correct. I have read a few different reports about the release dates. It did get a limited release in both NY and L.A. in December 2011.
    Its Oscar qualifying run was at Cinefamily.
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    on VHS. Good cast, average special effects.



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