nu-metal (Korn, Limp Bizkit, ICP)
hair metal (Poison, Whitesnake, Ratt)
post-grunge (Creed, Hinder, Nickelback)
pop-punk (Green Day, Good Charlotte, etc)
eyeliner emo (Panic! at the Disco, MCR)
gangsta rap (50 Cent, Chingy)
Christian (P.O.D., Jars of Clay, Michael W Smith)
21st century post-punk ripoffs (Editors Want Interpol)
pop country (Faith Hill, Kenny Chesney)
other
after thinking about it some I probably should have voted gangster rap just because some of the rappers are smart enough to know that they are perpetuating negative black stereotypes to a largely white audience in order to make a buck. The modern black face way to go fuckers. Yeah, I'm looking at you 50.
The White Stripes 9/18
I chose the post-grunge option...although I hate christian rock (isn't creed chistian rock?) just as much. The reason I chose post-grunge is because I have heard more of it compared to christian rock. The only christian rock I have heard is on those infomercials for christian rock compilations.
If jesus ever came back to earth I would personally re-kill him.
you forgot christmas music
Creed is the Pearl Jam sound watered down into mildly grunge-flavored Clear Channel arena rock ballads, with pseudo-spiritual lyrics and crucifixion posturing in videos and on-stage. Scott Stapp tries to sing exactly like Eddie Vedder, as well. Bands like Nickelback, Hinder, Daughtry, Default, Finger 11, etc just follow the Creed model for bucks, but without Jesus.
Just because Scott Stapp did an Eddie Vedder impression doesn't make it post-grunge. It had nothing to do with grunge. Creed sounds more like Live than it does Pearl Jam, and Live isn't exactly grunge.
Also, why in the fuck wouldn't Creed be in Christian Rock? P.O.D. is nu-metal, to boot.
Creed and Nickelback can be considered post-post-grunge. I would say that Live is considered post-grunge, as is Bush. Grunge however is the genre with the least amount of bands that were HUGE.
List of grunge bands that were HUGE:
Nirvana
PJ
Soundgarden
Alice In Chains
STP (it's stretch to call them grunge)
Hole (maybe)
Core was definitely grunge, and most of Purple. They just also delved into other vibes--which I personally think was their better work.
Live can't really be post-grunge cause they were going on at the same time. They were just non-grunge rock of the era.
yeah I guess I just consider Live post-grunge because Throwing Copper, which was their seminal album, came out in 1994 as did Sixteen Stone and Bush is pretty much the definition of post-grunge.
I fucking hate bullshit sub-genre definitions. From wiki:
By 1993 some of the first post-grunge bands (notably Bush, Collective Soul, Everclear, Our Lady Peace and Live) had been signed to major labels and were beginning to garner mainstream attention.
This is horseshit. They were just other alternative rock in the case of Live and Bush. That other shit wasn't actually popular for another year or two at least.
Collective Soul still has a respectably large and dedicated fanbase. I agree though sub-genre shit is shit.
Missing options:
Boy-bands (Backstreet Boys, N'Sync, 98 Degrees)
nu-R&B - yes I just made that up for lack of a better name - (Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Beyonce, Rhianna)
The artists in your "nu-R&B" genre are at lest respectable.
I voted for other because there is something good that came out of each genre at one time or another.
And no one say anything bad about the Deftones. Chino is the man.
I love music, and I hate vowels.
the deftones are solid why are we hating on them
I see what you're saying. But.. it really seems like you'll go to any length to disagree with something. hahha.. seriously, comparing it to violence in movies?
The original arguement was about perpetuating stereotypes.
And maybe rap is only a part of it, but you cant deny..
well... shit like this:
What's the world coming to?
nu metal>>>eyeliner emo
post grunge>>>eyeliner emo
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I voted EMO. The Gangster Rap one is kind of weird, cause the artists that you chose are more like commercial club rap. When i think of Gangster rap, I think of rap from the 90's. Nu-Metal is waaaaay better than Emo, or pop country. God, I really hate almost all these groups.. Except for the Post-Punk Genre.
LOL.. She Wants Revenge and Interpol sound almost IDENTICAL. I don't get how you can like one and not the other.
OUTKAST 2014
Röyksopp, FC Kahuna, Télépopmusik, The Knife, RJD2, Futue Sound of London, The Avalanches, 808 State, Zero 7, Tycho, Mr. Scruff
Yeah, I remember my scene friends trying to tell me how Deftones were hardcore or whatever, and I don't buy that shit at all. They were what post-grunge should mean--that which followed and grew out of grunge. Sorry, I don't see the connection between Deftones and earlier hardcore acts the way it seems blatantly obvious that they grew up on grunge and then got a little older and started developing a form of music that took its aesthetics but upped the energy--a more alternative alternative to the alt-rock period of the early 90s. The guitar work was just speedier grunge licks, not an update of hardcore from what I ever heard.
Agreed. At least until White Pony he was.
I don't think anyone was. I just misunderstood this "post-grunge" thing. Seriously, how are Bush and Live "post-grunge?" They're listed examples in the wiki for it. They both came out like a year or two tops after the grunge explosion, grunge wasn't even over yet, so how can they be post-grunge? They were just alternative. Post-grunge is bullshit.
How is it remotely different from violence in movies? Why is the Sopranos any better than 50 Cent, exactly? I'm not just disagreeing for the fuck of it, but I think it's kinda silly for you to call gangsta rap out (about 15 years too late I might add) as socially irresponsible. Know what's actually socially irresponsible? Gangs. Do you think rap inspired gangs? No. The gangs came first. They permeated the world that (some) of these rappers grew up in. And I can tell you for a fact that in Compton, Inglewood, NY, Camden, Newark... it's not just hype. They started making music about it because art has always been the vehicle by which the disenfranchised make their voices heard. I'm sure you'd prefer that they all responded by making socially responsible Will Smith public service announcement raps, but frankly that's just neither good lyric material nor would it be reflective of the inner-city black culture's true desires. Every once in a while they'd come out with something that reflected on the evil of what they were doing... but at the end of the day it's still gangs that get respect, that act as a militia to represent patriotism for their neighborhoods, that have the power and money and women and that are therefore more desirable to the market rappers are targeting.
You should try thinking a little deeper and consider the fact that until NWA and The Chronic started showing up in white teenagers' stereos you didn't hear too much about just how serious street gang violence was/is, did you? Perhaps by frightening the middle-class by promoting the gang lifestyle they did a lot more to draw useful attention to the problem than any positive message music could have.
She Wants Revenge definitely tries to sound like Interpol as much as possible. But I can tell SWR just by the drum parts alone. They use a drum machine and the dumb cunts don't know how to program it.
SNARE IS NEVER ON 1 AND 3, DUMBSHITS. They have white people rhythm.