Breaking Bad

[Somewhat Damaged]

and tommy, i would have also preferred something subtle that came out of nowhere, but that was not how lisa simpson discovered that maggie simpson or "MS" shot mr. burns. there needed to be another connection in my mind for him to get the "WW" thing, other than just seeing the initials. not saying i wanted someone to rat him out or for hank to see him on a video camera or something, but SOMETHING else would have been better. i like the show, but i've only seen the episodes once and don't really know what would have been a better selection. i just know this made me cringe.

I wish I hadn't deleted the episode immediately after we watched it, but I was pretty sure the rest of the inscription said "G.B." at the end of it, meaning that it wasn't just the "W.W." that tipped Hank off but the fact that Gale Boeticher had used that abbreviation and now here it was again from one "G.B."

[heart cooks brain]

along with the walt whitman connection, yeah.

[frazzles]

It was the G.B. thing and also that he wrote "my other favorite W.W."

[chairmenmeow47]

well then i'm obviously missing something, because i have no idea what "GB" and "walt whitman" have to do with making meth.

OH, gale was the other chemist. i thought it was from his college friend. that makes a lot more sense then.

[heart cooks brain]

i think the book in the bathroom was from his college friend. initials also GB. the connection is that gale referenced a walt whitman poem when he wrote to WW in the notebook hank found during the murder investigation.

[Dogvolta]

i think the book in the bathroom was from his college friend. initials also GB. the connection is that gale referenced a walt whitman poem when he wrote to WW in the notebook hank found during the murder investigation.

Oh shit really? His college friend was also G.B. and a fan of Walt Whitman...?

I just assumed that the book was from Gale the chemist and he wrote that note in it for Walt.

[frazzles]

"To my other favorite W.W. It's been an honour working with you. Fondly, G.B."

With the other favorite W.W. and the flashback to before, I don't see how you can assume anything else.

[chairmenmeow47]

can someone please find a screenshot of the writing in the book? i can't at work.

[heart cooks brain]

Oh shit really? His college friend was also G.B. and a fan of Walt Whitman...?

I just assumed that the book was from Gale the chemist and he wrote that note in it for Walt.

actually, just to clarify, her name is Gretchen Schwartz. Schwartz is a variation of 'Black' in german (hence GB). It's the lady that he started Grey Matter with. (White x Black = Grey).

[frazzles]

[chairmenmeow47]

RED X, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, I'M ON THE EDGE OF MY SEA

[HotHamWater]

Ivy, it says:

To my other favorite
W.W.

It's an honour
working with you

Fondly

G.B.

[frazzles]

actually, just to clarify, her name is Gwen Schwartz. Schwartz is a variation of 'Black' in german (hence GB). It's the lady that he started Grey Matter with. (White x Black = Grey).

This sounds like you're overreaching like hell. Not to mention her name is Gretchen, but regardless, the book is from Gale.

[Dogvolta]

Holy shit, so Walter's past friend/co-worker, Gwen Schwartz, was a fan of Walt Whitman, and give that book to Walter White with that written note?

EDIT: Ok Frazzles that said contrary...I mean, at this point, it really doesn't matter, but now I am just curious for the sake of knowing, was it Gwen or Gale that gave Walter that book?

[heart cooks brain]

it's a theory that removes walt's stupidity in leaving the book on his toilet.

in the end, it doesn't matter where the book came from. the result is the same either way.

[chairmenmeow47]

thank you. i'm going to side with the others that the book is from the chemist gale, which again makes more sense.

[jackstraw94086]

Jesus fucking christ didn't they show Gale giving him that book in a previous episode?
Give it up.


They may as well have had Hank watching Gale's Major Tom karaoke video on Youtube and seeing Walt's "LOL, BRO!" comment under it.

[heart cooks brain]

possibly. i tend to get stoned as fuck before i watch each episode. If so, it hasn't been brought up in any other discussion i've had on the subject.

calm down dude. it's just television.

[HotHamWater]

Jesus fucking christ didn't they show Gale giving him that book in a previous episode?
Give it up.

I thought that this happened, too, but I couldn't remember the episode (or if I just "remembered" something that didn't happen).

If they write it as being a gift from Gretchen, then I would be a little disappointed.

[amyzzz]

I remember Hank poring over Gale's notebook and agonizing over those initials, so it makes sense to me that the idea would come to him while he was taking a dump.

edit: and obv. after reading the entry in the poetry book.

[HotHamWater]

I remember Hank poring over Gale's notebook and agonizing over those initials, so it makes sense to me that the idea would come to him while he was taking a dump.

Not following.

[jackstraw94086]

possibly. i tend to get stoned as fuck before i watch each episode. If so, it hasn't been brought up in any other discussion i've had on the subject.

calm down dude. it's just television.

If you can't read a message board post without inferring rage anytime someone types a cuss word then you need to cut down on your coffee and cigarettes.

btw, all this "gretchen brown/grey matter" bullshit seems to stem from one blog and has been washed through dozens more through a cursory search. It's hilarious how quickly it gets thrashed on them all.

[amyzzz]

Weren't the initials W.W. in Gale's notebook that Hank found in Gale's apartment?

[jackstraw94086]

I thought that this happened, too, but I couldn't remember the episode (or if I just "remembered" something that didn't happen).

If they write it as being a gift from Gretchen, then I would be a little disappointed.

I may have misremembered too. A quick search turns up others who remember Gale and Walt discussing Whitman at least in season 3.

I'm disappointed either way. Either Walt's stupid for dropping the book in his bathroom or it's an incredible reach with this whole "Schwarz/Black" crap. either way it's bad writing.

And I think Amy's right. I think Hank did see W.W. somewhere else in Gale's notebooks.

[heart cooks brain]

If you can't read a message board post without inferring rage anytime someone types a cuss word then you need to cut down on your coffee and cigarettes.

btw, all this "gretchen brown/grey matter" bullshit seems to stem from one blog and has been washed through dozens more through a cursory search. It's hilarious how quickly it gets thrashed on them all.

thanks for the advice. you roid out in every thread you touch. sorry for inferring your natural state in that post.

your google skills obviously outclass my don't really give a fuck skills on this. i was just presenting an alternate theory since people people were tepid at best on the gale theory.

[heart cooks brain]

could very well be.

[frazzles]

Not sure why you guys have to think Hank was wondering about the initials. They flashed to it immediately after they showed the inscription in the book.

[Dogvolta]

The W.W. initials WERE in the notebook from Gale (hence the flashback from the last episode. Honestly, how do you guys not remember that? Even in the flash back Hank says "Who do you think W.W. is?")

I guess everyone is just trying to remember whether or not Gale ALSO gave Walt the BOOK that Hank found. Like I said, it doesn't really mater at this point, but I am curious as hell about what the writers intended.

And jackstraw, you do roid out in every thread, so don't act all surprised and superior when someone reacts.

[RotationSlimWang]

... didn't he see it in the EXACT scene they flashed back to? How is this even a question?

[dorkfish]

Weren't the initials W.W. in Gale's notebook that Hank found in Gale's apartment?