Breaking Bad

[Somewhat Damaged]

First thing I thought of when I saw that they were watching Scarface was that gun that Walt bought.

Same here. I don't think the "Everybody dies" line is the foreshadowing as much as Tony Montana's eventual fate is in regards to Walt's end.

[heart cooks brain]

I think 'Everybody dies' was more a justification of skylar's fear than it was foreshadowing.

[gazercmh]

I really liked the episode but didn't care for the Scarface stuff. Seemed too much like product placement given the ads for the movie. Plus it seemed kinda ridiculous that Walt's idea of a nice family activity for freaked-out Skylar would be watching a movie about a crazed drug kingpin who dies.

[chairmenmeow47]

i didn't really care for the scarface thing either with mob week going on. other than that though, i'm enjoying this season so far. my favourite moment was honestly when they panned up from the keyboard and that one friend of jesse's was playing the piano. where the fuck did that come from?!

[vulcandeathgrip]

I've been wanting to repeatedly scream "SHUT UP" at Marie for 4 and a bit seasons now.

Great episode.

[HotHamWater]

You guys don't think the Scarface thing was a coincidence?

[Alchemy]

Yeah, I doubt that they were purposely advertising for mob week. Nonetheless, the timing of it made me think of mob week.

[HotHamWater]

I can see product placement during the show, but not for an AMC thing that they're advertising (for free) outside of the show anyway. It's highly more likely that Vince Gilligan and Co. were using Scarface as a metaphor, or foreshadowing, you cynical pricks.

[amyzzz]

I don't have AMC, so I wouldn't have known about the mob week ads it is showing if you all had not told me. Is Walt really so out of touch with his wife's feelings that he would not see how watching that would bother Skylar? Or he showing that he just does not care?

Also, last night's episode consolidated what would have been many weeks of work into one episode, what with all the preparations to be done for their new meth lab idea.

[Alchemy]

I think Walt is aware of what he's doing, but at the same time, I think he was surprised to learn about Skyler's breakdown. Despite the breakdown, I think Walt's purposely trying to reach the bottom at this point. It's not that he's unaware or that he doesn't care, but I think he wants Skyler to be afraid of him.

[HotHamWater]

In all fairness, he wasn't watching it with Skyler. He was watching it with Walt Jr., and Skyler walked in near the end of the movie. I'm not sure that it was anything deliberate against Skyler, though inviting her to stay for the end may have been.

[chairmenmeow47]

i honestly think he did all this to better his family, and for better or worse, he has financially helped some. now that the show is wrapping up, he's coming back home with his "winnings" (which really don't exist) and trying to make things normal again. he had said he was doing all this to pay the bills and support his family, so now he wants to go home. but skylar realizes he also wanted power and to express a darker side of himself, which he also done. unfortunate for walt that doesn't seem to be something skylar wants to come home to.

[jackstraw94086]

I think 'Everybody dies' was more a justification of skylar's fear than it was foreshadowing.

ding ding ding ding.

[jackstraw94086]

i didn't really care for the scarface thing either with mob week going on. other than that though, i'm enjoying this season so far. my favourite moment was honestly when they panned up from the keyboard and that one friend of jesse's was playing the piano. where the fuck did that come from?!

I liked that too. I'm generally not one to read too much into shit like that but everything seems very deliberate in this show. If nothing else it was comic relief. Badger and Skinny Pete are like the obligatory clowns in the Breaking Bad tragedy (remember when they went to the NA meeting to advertise the new meth on the street?). It's also another humanizing moment for Skinny Pete. He's shown a bit of restraint in the past pulling away from Jessie for fear of getting in trouble, now we see some wasted talent that might have taken him somewhere if not for getting mixed up in meth.

[xanman86]

If they kill off Walt Jr. I may cry like a little girl

[Alchemy]

i honestly think he did all this to better his family, and for better or worse, he has financially helped some. now that the show is wrapping up, he's coming back home with his "winnings" (which really don't exist) and trying to make things normal again. he had said he was doing all this to pay the bills and support his family, so now he wants to go home. but skylar realizes he also wanted power and to express a darker side of himself, which he also done. unfortunate for walt that doesn't seem to be something skylar wants to come home to.

I don't know... I think he is still trying to support his family, but at the same time, I feel like even if he had his winnings for them, he would still keep cooking. He believes that he can control the market for crystal meth, just like Gus, and now I think his desire to be the boss is overriding his desire to help his family.

[PotVsKtl]

He's a villain folks.

[Miroir Noir]

Yeah, not sure how anyone can watch that last episode (to say nothing of the last dozen or so) and not come away with the idea that Walt is an irredeemably bad person at this point.

[chairmenmeow47]

i'm not saying he's a good guy. i'm saying that he THINKS he's doing all of this for the right reasons, but skylar sees that's not the case. he's doing this for power and to unleash this darker side of himself he's kept in for so long. i just think it's a good point to wrap up with him trying to come home and bring things full-circle when clearly nothing will every be the same again.

a villain who acts evil for the sake of acting evil is boring. a villain who acts evil in the name of family could be anyone we know.

[amyzzz]

I think he is getting back at Skylar for emasculating him all these years.

[captncrzy]

I think he is getting back at Skylar for emasculating him all these years.

I actually think that too. In the flashbacks to his earlier days, he was vibrant and arrogant (due to his brilliance?).

[EastLos01]

i'm not saying he's a good guy. i'm saying that he THINKS he's doing all of this for the right reasons, but skylar sees that's not the case. he's doing this for power and to unleash this darker side of himself he's kept in for so long. i just think it's a good point to wrap up with him trying to come home and bring things full-circle when clearly nothing will every be the same again.

a villain who acts evil for the sake of acting evil is boring. a villain who acts evil in the name of family could be anyone we know.

I got this from Entertainment weekly. Great Article from beginning to end. You can read the entire interview here...

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20612797,00.html

Before Walter's journey concludes, is there one scene on Cranston's wish list? ''I like the complexity of the man,'' he answers. ''We are multifaceted people and we have the capability of feeling different things. I would love to see him do something heroic and save someone or something...'' Like a school bus of children? ''Let's call it a school bus of children. And then I have those children work for me in my meth lab,'' he continues with dark delight. ''They should be grateful. I just saved their lives. 'You're not going home until you finish!''' Gilligan sees that possibility and raises it: ''Maybe they work together to make the meth grape-flavored. You know, for the kids.''

[Alchemy]

The only thing keeping me off meth is that they haven't developed a good grape-flavor.

[captncrzy]

I would love it if Walt has some sort of redemption in the end. I think he's going to get much darker before it's over. Like I think Mike isn't long for this world, based on his Victor comments.

[chairmenmeow47]

i really liked the mike episode. i watched last week's and this week's last night, so i'm not sure which it was. but i love watching that guy.

i don't think walt can redeem himself. he tried to kill a child.

[Somewhat Damaged]

I don't think he intended to kill Brock. If so, he could've given him a lethal enough dose (or however the fuck the poisoning occurred) to have that happen. He just needed him hospitalized to put doubt in Jesse's mind about whether he should be loyal to Gus.

[chairmenmeow47]

well, i'm sure any doting parent will tell you that's just fine and dandy.

[amyzzz]

He poisoned a child. Whether or not his intention was to kill him is irrelevant.

[Alchemy]

It was ignoble and cowardly of Walt to poison Brock, but it was also a very desperate last resort. The choice was to either non-lethally poison Brock or let Gus murder his family, which includes the death of his "infant daughter," if we remember. Walt is a bad guy, but he hasn't reached the villainy of Gus yet. But I count on him making it there!

[nathanfairchild]

He poisoned a child. Whether or not his intention was to kill him is irrelevant.

i dont think he wanted to kill the kid, but whether or not the kid died was the least of his concerns. he did seem genuinely relieved that the kid didn't die at the end of season 4 though.