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    Should of been the biggest tour of all time, U2 at their best. But this tour is getting Ishtared, where people realize it wasn't as bad as they were being told along. Who remembers this tour?
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    Zoo TV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kronz420 View Post
    Zoo TV.
    Popmart did the impossible, by taking Zoo TV to the next level.
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    Bono's voice was in rough shape in that entire era and had surgery after. Album was never really finished and Discotheque was a buzz kill. Larry had wrist issues and was missing from the recording of the album.

    I like the Willie Williams comment in his diary from the tour, something about learning the hard way that irony doesn't travel between countries/cultures very well.

    BTW, still in my top 3 U2 albums. Vinyl can be had for $40-50 and smokes the cd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumblebee View Post
    Bono's voice was in rough shape in that entire era and had surgery after. Album was never really finished and Discotheque was a buzz kill. Larry had wrist issues and was missing from the recording of the album.

    I like the Willie Williams comment in his diary from the tour, something about learning the hard way that irony doesn't travel between countries/cultures very well.

    BTW, still in my top 3 U2 albums. Vinyl can be had for $40-50 and smokes the cd.
    Bono has sounded like shit since Zoo TV now that I think about it and never really got any better.

    Ever see the figures from this tour? Some shows drew less than 20,000 in a stadium. That's what I am talking about here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowMotionApocalypse View Post
    Bono has sounded like shit since Zoo TV now that I think about it and never really got any better.

    Ever see the figures from this tour? Some shows drew less than 20,000 in a stadium. That's what I am talking about here.
    Bono was hitting stuff in 2001, 2005 and 2006 that would have been unthinkable on Popmart.

    It was the 3rd or 4th biggest tour of all time by the time it ended - yes it had a half dozen or so soft selling show. You know who else has played to under 20,000 in a US stadiums - The Beatles!! Even shows on their first national US tour had several thousand unsold tickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumblebee View Post
    Bono's voice was in rough shape in that entire era and had surgery after. Album was never really finished and Discotheque was a buzz kill. Larry had wrist issues and was missing from the recording of the album.

    I like the Willie Williams comment in his diary from the tour, something about learning the hard way that irony doesn't travel between countries/cultures very well.

    BTW, still in my top 3 U2 albums. Vinyl can be had for $40-50 and smokes the cd.
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    The ZooTV tour video (forget the name) is so epic and I wish I could have been there. The 360 tour will have to suffice I guess but it really captured that early 90's feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xuclarockerx View Post
    The ZooTV tour video (forget the name) is so epic and I wish I could have been there. The 360 tour will have to suffice I guess but it really captured that early 90's feel.
    360 was kinda weak even before you start comparing to Zoo TV which was the greatest stadium tour of all time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumblebee View Post
    Bono was hitting stuff in 2001, 2005 and 2006 that would have been unthinkable on Popmart.

    It was the 3rd or 4th biggest tour of all time by the time it ended - yes it had a half dozen or so soft selling show. You know who else has played to under 20,000 in a US stadiums - The Beatles!! Even shows on their first national US tour had several thousand unsold tickets.
    The Beatles didn't do that on the downswing, they were the first stadium shows ever.

    And it was more than half a dozen softselling shows, there were at least a few dozen that were poorly attended and also many unused hold dates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowMotionApocalypse View Post
    360 was kinda weak even before you start comparing to Zoo TV which was the greatest stadium tour of all time.

    On the Vertigo tour they came out for the encore and opened with ZOO TV images/video. Kicked into Zoo Station. I've seen U2 6 times (Popmart, ATYCLB, Vertigo x 2, 360 x 2) and that was by far the most exciting moment for me. Can only imagine what ZOO TV was like.
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    This is a really random thread to start in April 2013, did I miss something?

    But anyway, I was there at Popmart. I thought it was really fun to be a part of live. Their opener was RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE!! That was really fucking cool to me, I moshed with my sister out by the corner risers, where it seemed all the Rage fans gathered. It was the first time I had seen either band and they both brought the intensity. U2 were having a great time on stage. It's weird people were so negative about the tour when it was a legendary show for people who went.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nationocean View Post
    But anyway, I was there at Popmart. I thought it was really fun to be apart of live. Their opener was RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE!!
    Lucky. Our opener was Fun Lovin' Criminals. Oof.
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    Popmart at The Colosseum was my first concert ever. I was about 15 years old and just getting over my Jr. High Black Flag Dead Kennedys Nirvana stage. Boy, War, Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby sounded perfect - sounded like the new me. I had that live ZooTV tape. Rattle and Hum. Red Rocks. The Unforgettable Fire documentary. I was obsessed.

    I was so excited to finally experience a fabled U2 concert and what I got was a stoned transvestite dancing in front of me, blocking my view and a transvestite Bono singing out of a lemon. It was weird

    Rage Against The Machine was awesome.

    To u2's credit, even though All That You Cant Leave Behind and Elevation were relatively crap albums, their live shows on those tours were fucking great and full of some of their best songs like Bullet, In Gods Country etc.

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    Popmart was also my first concert ever. I was invited to come with my buddy in high school without only limited knowledge of the band. The concert really changed my musical life. I loved how the band had embraced electronics to make something that sounded so different than other bands of the time. And I believe that really kicked into high gear initially with Zoo TV but the Pop era definately took that to another level. And the messages about media overload and mass consumerism really connected with me and I could see that this was a band that had something to say. U2 later opened my eyes not only to their rest of their wonderful catalogue of music but also to many new artists in different genres. I still say that the initial reason I got into dance music was for all the fabulous remixes they were putting out at that time with Paul Oakenfold and such.

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    1. Las Vegas April 25, 1997 Sam Boyd Stadium
    GROSS: $1,866,524 ATTENDANCE: 36,742

    2. San Diego April 28, 1997 Jack Murphy Stadium GROSS: $1,545,990 ATTENDANCE: 30,572

    3. Denver May 1, 1997 Mile High Stadium
    GROSS: $1,432,965 ATTENDANCE: 28,540

    4. Salt Lake City May 3, 1997 Rice Stadium
    GROSS: $1,692,732 ATTENDANCE: 33,277

    5. Eugene May 6, 1997 Autzen Stadium
    GROSS: $1,293,540 ATTENDANCE: 25,931

    6. Tempe May 9, 1997 Sun Devil Stadium
    GROSS: $1,673,317 ATTENDANCE: 33,539

    7. Dallas May 12, 1997 Cotton Bowl
    GROSS: $1,908,637 ATTENDANCE: 38,043

    8. Memphis May 14, 1997 Liberty Bowl
    GROSS: $1,131,570 ATTENDANCE: 22,734

    9. Clemson May 16, 1997 Frank Howard Memorial
    Stadium GROSS: $1,043,349 ATTENDANCE: 20,251

    10. Kansas May 19, 1997 Arrowhead Stadium
    GROSS: $1,201,035 ATTENDANCE: 23,709

    11. Pittsburgh May 22, 1997 Three Rivers Stadium GROSS: $1,376,317 ATTENDANCE: 27,785

    12. Columbus May 24, 1997 Ohio Stadium
    GROSS: $2,246,977 ATTENDANCE: 43,873

    13. Washington DC May 26, 1997 RFK Stadium
    GROSS: $2,149,432 ATTENDANCE: 42,295

    14, 15, 16. East Rutherford May 31-June 1,3, 1997 Giants Stadium 3 shows combined GROSS: $6,499,131 ATTENDANCE: 129,644

    17. Philadelphia June 8, 1997 Franklin Field
    GROSS: $2,549,610 ATTENDANCE: 49,944

    18. Winnipeg June 12, 1997 Winnipeg Stadium
    GROSS: $1,653,884 ATTENDANCE: 42,270

    19, 20. Edmonton June 14-15, 1997 Commonwealth Stadium 2 shows combined GROSS: $3,493,456 ATTENDANCE: 90,000

    21, 22. Oakland June 18-19, 1997 Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum 2 shows combined GROSS: $3,263,243 ATTENDANCE: 66,990

    23. Los Angeles June 21, 1997 Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum GROSS: $3,329,775 ATTENDANCE: 65,488

    24. Madison June 25, 1997 Camp Randall Stadium GROSS: $1,701,045 ATTENDANCE: 34,002

    25, 26, 27. Chicago June 27,28,29, 1997 Soldier Field 3 shows combined GROSS: $5,956,587 ATTENDANCE: 116,972

    28, 29. Foxboro July 1-2, 1997 Foxboro Stadium 2 shows combined GROSS: $4,789,124 ATTENDANCE: 93,946

    1ST LEG OF POPMART: 29 SHOWS
    GROSS: $53,798,240 ATTENDANCE: 1,096,547
    AVERAGE GROSS: $1,855,112 AVERAGE ATTENDANCE: 37,812




    POPMART TOUR 2ND LEG: EUROPE 32 SHOWS

    30, 31. Rotterdam July 18-19, 1997 Feyenoord Stadium 2 shows combined GROSS: $3,214,484 ATTENDANCE: 91,832

    32. Werchter July 25, 1997 Festival Grounds GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 38,000(unconfirmed estimate)

    33. Cologne July 27, 1997 Butzweiler Hof GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 29,000(unconfirmed estimate)

    34. Leipzig July 29, 1997 Festweise GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 18,500(unconfirmed estimate)

    35. Mannheim July 31, 1997 Maimarkt GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 25,000(unconfirmed estimate)

    36. Gouhenburg August 2, 1997 Ullevi Stadion GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 48,008(unconfirmed estimate)

    37. Copenhagen August 4, 1997 Parken Stadium GROSS: $2,079,137 ATTENDANCE: 42,734

    38. Oslo August 6, 1997 Vallehovin GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

    39. Helsinki August 9, 1997 Olympic Stadium GROSS: $2,198,978 ATTENDANCE: 50,943

    40. Warsaw August 12, 1997 Horse Race Track GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 70,000(unconfirmed estimate)

    41. Prague August 14, 1997 Strahov Stadium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 80,000(unconfirmed estimate)

    42. Vienna August 16, 1997 Former Airport Station GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 73,000(unconfirmed estimate)

    43. Nurnberg August 18, 1997 Zeppelinfield GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 35,000(unconfirmed estimate)

    44. Hannover August 20, 1997 Expo GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 38,500(unconfirmed estimate)

    45, 46. London August 22-23, 1997 Wembley Stadium two shows combined GROSS: $6,753,356 ATTENDANCE: 144,308

    47. Belfast August 26, 1997 Botanical Gardens
    GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 39,362

    48. Leeds August 28, 1997 Roundhay Park GROSS: $2,458,615 ATTENDANCE: 53,917

    49, 50. Dublin August 30-31, 1997 Landsdowne Park two shows combined GROSS: $3,441,268 ATTENDANCE: 85,046

    51. Edinburgh September 2, 1997 Murrayfield Stadium GROSS: $2,318,566 ATTENDANCE: 50,439

    52. Paris September 6, 1997 Parc des Princes GROSS: $2,501,742 ATTENDANCE: 53,519

    53. Madrid September 9, 1997 Vicente Calderon Stadium GROSS: $1,776,728 ATTENDANCE: 46,385

    54. Lisbon September 11, 1997 Alvalade Stadium GROSS: $2,045,906 ATTENDANCE: 62,114

    55. Barcelona September 13, 1997 Olympic Stadium GROSS: $2,281,165 ATTENDANCE: 60,096

    56. Montpelier September 15, 1997 Espace Grammont GROSS: $1,033,643 ATTENDANCE: 24,188

    57. Rome September 18, 1997 Hippodrome GROSS: $1,990,073 ATTENDANCE: 56,392

    58. Reggio Emilia September 20, 1997 Festival Site GROSS: $5,294,117 ATTENDANCE: 150,000

    59. Sarajevo September 23, 1997 Kosevo Stadium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 50,000(unconfirmed estimate)

    60. Thessaloniki September 26, 1997 Harbour Yard GROSS: $725,000 ATTENDANCE: 50,000

    61. Tel Aviv September 30, 1997 Hayarkon Park GROSS: $1,809,388 ATTENDANCE: 31,566

    2ND LEG: EUROPE POPMART TOTALS
    GROSS: $58,697,632 ATTENDANCE: 1,572,721
    AVERAGE GROSS: $1,834,301 AVERAGE ATTENDANCE: 49,148



    POPMART 3RD LEG: NORTH AMERICA 17 SHOWS

    62, 63. Toronto October 26-27, 1997 SkyDome 2 shows combined GROSS: $3,875,335 ATTENDANCE: 99,195

    64. Minneapolis October 29, 1997 Metrodome GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 30,000(unconfirmed estimate)

    65. Pontiac October 31, 1997 Pontiac Silverdome GROSS: $1,781,621 ATTENDANCE: 35,463

    66. Montreal November 2, 1997 Montreal Olympic Stadium GROSS: $1,905,108 ATTENDANCE: 48,855

    67. St. Louis November 8, 1997 Trans World Dome GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 30,000(unconfirmed estimate)

    68. Tampa November 10, 1997 Tampa Stadium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 20,000(unconfirmed estimate)

    69. Jacksonville November 12, 1997 Municipal Stadium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 15,000(unconfirmed estimate)

    70. Miami November 14, 1997 Pro Player Stadium GROSS: $2,158,988 ATTENDANCE: 42,778

    71. New Orleans November 21, 1997 Superdome GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

    72. San Antonio November 23, 1997 Alamodome GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

    73. Atlanta November 26, 1997 Georgia Dome GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

    74. Houston November 28, 1997 AstroDome GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

    75, 76. Mexico City December 2-3, 1997 Foro Sol 2 shows combined GROSS: $4,595,225 ATTENDANCE: 106,966

    77. Vancouver December 9, 1997 B.C. Place Stadium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 30,000(unconfirmed estimate)

    78. Seattle December 12, 1997 The Kingdome GROSS: $1,539,705 ATTENDANCE: 30,260

    POPMART 3RD LEG: NORTH AMERICA 17 SHOWS TOTALS GROSS: $26,036,837 ATTENDANCE: 575,742 AVERAGE GROSS: $1,531,579 AVERAGE ATTENDANCE: 33,867




    POPMART 4TH LEG: South America, Australia, Japan, South Africa. 15 SHOWS

    79. Rio De Janeiro January 27, 1998 Nelson Piquet Autodromo GROSS: $2,654,715 ATTENDANCE: 66,949

    80, 81. Sao Paulo January 30-31, 1998 Morumbi Stadium 2 shows combined GROSS: $6,103,065 ATTENDANCE: 154,056

    82, 83, 84. Buenos Aires February 5,6,7, 1998 River Plate Stadium 3 shows combined GROSS: $8,668,840 ATTENDANCE: 160,478

    85. Santiago February 11, 1998 Estadio Nacional GROSS: $2,171,112 ATTENDANCE: 67,633

    86. Perth February 17, 1998 Burswood Dome GROSS: $1,273,178 ATTENDANCE: 13,775

    87. Melbourne February 21, 1998 Waverly Park GROSS: $1,366,510 ATTENDANCE: 23,810

    88. Brisbane February 25, 1998 ANZ Stadium GROSS: $1,019,744 ATTENDANCE: 17,567

    89. Sydney February 28, 1998 Football Ground GROSS: $2,236,123 ATTENDANCE: 37,976

    90. Tokyo March 5, 1998 Tokyo Dome GROSS: $2,439,230 ATTENDANCE: 34,265

    91. Osaka March 11, 1998 Osaka Dome GROSS: $1,404,722 ATTENDANCE: 19,735

    92. Cape Town March 16, 1998 Green Point Stadium GROSS: $1,339,233 ATTENDANCE: 30,362

    93. Johannesburg March 21, 1998 Athletic Park GROSS: $2,467,843 ATTENDANCE: 64,320

    POPMART 4TH LEG: 15 SHOWS TOTALS
    GROSS: $33,144,315 ATTENDANCE: 690,926
    AVERAGE GROSS: $2,209,621 AVERAGE ATTENDANCE: 46,062





    The Totals for the Entire 93 date POPMART TOUR are GROSS: $171,677,024 ATTENDANCE: 3,935,936 AVERAGE GROSS: $1,845,989.5 AVERAGE ATTENDANCE: 42,322
    I have exact statistics for 71 of the 93 POPMART shows. I was able to come up with the totals for each leg of the tour and the entire tour itself because those figures were printed by Amusement Business back in 97-98.(Amusementbusiness.com)

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    I fucking LOVED this concert. One of the tops of all time. Even if you didn't like it, you've gotta appreciate the balls they had to put it all on.
    I'm a reasonable man, get off my case.

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