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    i want the sound quality of the 1200s without all the DJ shit.

    anyone know of anything that's really solid for an audiophile that doesn't go overboard? I don't care about automation. I just want something that sounds great.
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    Pro-Ject
    Music Hall
    Rega

    all good brands for Turntables that aren't considered "DJ Style (like Technics 1200)". Some audiophiles prefer the above brands to the technics.

    This is a decent player:

    http://www.musicdirect.com/product/73926

    My dad has a technics 1500 direct drive I think, and we have an Onkyo (but both are sitting in the garage right now).

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    i have three record players

    one is an 80s sony turntable. need new speakers for it.
    another is an rca portable plastic one from the 70s. plays, but will need a new needle soon.
    the last is a trav-ler portable tube one from about the 30s or 40s. needs a new needle which is hard to find, given its age.

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    After not much time looking, I am going to go on the cheap this round.

    I think I am going with this one. I know sound won't be super top notch, but frankly I don't want to be blowing a shit ton of money on this. Way too much to spend this year.

    Guess not... hahahaha. It has now been removed from their search results and is out of stock. Damn!
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    I've got a Crosley, it's a good turntable for a decent price.
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    Music Hall MMF 2.1 is pretty good.

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    The Onkyo is going bye bye.

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    I got a record player for Christmas. Its a studebaker. I like it.
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    i'm thinking about going with the mmf 2.1

    i'm nervous about the calibration, given I have no experience.

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    I'm going to get the MMF 2.2. Anyone have any suggestions on a good phono preamp... I'm tempted to seek out something tube, but I don't know what the fuck I'm doing...

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    the needles are probably the most important part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alias View Post
    the needles are probably the most important part.
    Well, I don't know a whole lot about this process, but I know that is definitely not true. There are a ton of potential bottlenecks.

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    technics 1200 mk3, the only way to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by alias View Post
    the needles are probably the most important part.
    no way, its good to have good needles but u need a good table to keep the speed correct. i use shure white lables though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmgaretjax View Post
    i want the sound quality of the 1200s without all the DJ shit.

    anyone know of anything that's really solid for an audiophile that doesn't go overboard? I don't care about automation. I just want something that sounds great.
    u could get stanton strait 8's. sound is good but they dont hold pitch nearly as well as a 1200

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    only have 1, and i don't spin


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    Music Hall's are good, a lot of audiophiles prefer them.

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    if you're just using it for playback, things like the platter torque and the stop/start skid, etc don't matter-
    go with a lower end turntable, and spend your money where it really counts- on the speakers, and on the CARTRIDGE.
    a tech 12 just plain old playing back a record with a stock stanton cartridge is going to sound, realistically, the same as a low end stanton with the same cartridge.
    replace the cartridge on the stanton with an ortofon concord, and it'll outshine the tech in a double blind.

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    If you're not a DJ, and don't plan on becoming a DJ, then you don't need a 1200. Pitch control and a direct-drive motor are good for DJs but if you just want to put on your Sufjan LP and relax then you don't need those things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by menikmati View Post
    Music Hall's are good, a lot of audiophiles prefer them.
    From the 3 stores I talked to in the area, this is definitely not true. First of all, Music Hall is just an importer of Pro-Ject tables. Buying Pro-ject will get you better warranty coverage, and better dealership coverage. That said, they are good tables, the audiophile distributors just laughed when I asked if they carried them and pointed at the Pro-Jects.

    I got talked into a Pro-Ject Xpression II. A little pricier than I had planned, but I'm pretty happy with my choice.

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    well its a matter of opinion and preference...I've talked to a lot of "audiophiles" who swear by them, and won't go near Technics. Then again, there are people who think 128kps MP3/AAC's sound good too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frozen pilgrim View Post
    if you're just using it for playback, things like the platter torque and the stop/start skid, etc don't matter-
    go with a lower end turntable, and spend your money where it really counts- on the speakers, and on the CARTRIDGE.
    a tech 12 just plain old playing back a record with a stock stanton cartridge is going to sound, realistically, the same as a low end stanton with the same cartridge.
    replace the cartridge on the stanton with an ortofon concord, and it'll outshine the tech in a double blind.
    I actually don't think this is true. Putting a good cartridge on a bad table can actually make things worse. It will help with frequency response of course, but many of the inherent problems in cheap record players revolve around tracking/speed/noise issues. It could end up ruining the tone-arm if it's not capable of handling nicer cartridges. It can even damage your records if the record platter isn't nice (even the MMF 2.2 has issues with this) and larger magnets will end up drawing the needle too deep.

    I'm not saying the cartridge doesn't matter, I'm just saying that there are multiple bottlenecks that need to be addressed. I'm only talking about listening here, I could give two shits about anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by menikmati View Post
    well its a matter of opinion and preference...I've talked to a lot of "audiophiles" who swear by them, and won't go near Technics. Then again, there are people who think 128kps MP3/AAC's sound good too.
    Yeah, I mean... The record player I got is also available under a Music Hall name, so it's not that they are bad quality. Just that it's a weird distributor issue.

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    So I have my Project Xpression II set up and calibrated and I'm in love with it. I opted for the standard project phono amp ($130) and will probably also nab the speed box (quartz motor regulation and easy non-belt 33/45 switching). The cartridge I have is the standard Sumiko Oyster, but I will eventually upgrade to something that is about as top tier as my tone arm can handle (probably in the $250 range). I don't have the best speakers (Audioengine B5As that I'm totally happy with) but the next time I have some spare money I'll start saving for something worthy of the turntable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmgaretjax View Post
    I actually don't think this is true. Putting a good cartridge on a bad table can actually make things worse. It will help with frequency response of course, but many of the inherent problems in cheap record players revolve around tracking/speed/noise issues. It could end up ruining the tone-arm if it's not capable of handling nicer cartridges. It can even damage your records if the record platter isn't nice (even the MMF 2.2 has issues with this) and larger magnets will end up drawing the needle too deep.

    I'm not saying the cartridge doesn't matter, I'm just saying that there are multiple bottlenecks that need to be addressed. I'm only talking about listening here, I could give two shits about anything else.
    you're right, if you're talking about the difference between a radioshack belt drive and a rega P2. I guess I meant when you're buying above a certain level of quality to begin with. let's call that level the shitfloor. as long as you're buying above the shitfloor, you should worry more about your cartridge when it comes to playback. and get a little inline tube preamp, expecially since a lot of new recievers don't have a decent phono ground (or any for that matter)

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    Man, I wish I could afford a decent Tube pre-amp. But after some tests, I'm really happy with the solid state project phonoamp I got, and it's like half the price of a decent tube pre-amp.

    I tried out the Rega P2 at the dealership I went to (really just some nuts house that is an absolute audiophile) but chose the xperience II based on intuitions and the advice of the expert.

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    So I added the speed box to my turntable and it actually made a pretty noticeable difference. I was already really satisfied with the table I bought (in fact, I'm totally blown away by it) but it brought out even more clarity in the mid range (I assume because it's less cloudy because of the lack of any PWM wavering in the motor).

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    Wooo! I just picked up a hard to find record that I've been after for a while:

    John Parish & Polly Jean Harvey Dance Hall at Louse Point


    Can't wait to play it.
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    nice. just so you know there is a CD/LP purchase thread too...

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