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    Converting music CDs to audio files on a computer is unapproved and therefore illegal, the Recording Industry Association of America has said (PDF) in a brief ahead of a crucial Arizona lawsuit. Hoping to support the arguments from group member Atlantic Records in its complaint against the Howell family, the RIAA contends that ripping CDs leads to "viral" copyright infringement; a single disc can result in millions of copies if shared through a peer-to-peer service, the brief claims.

    The statement partly contradicts the RIAA's previous stance on the subject. Although the group is careful in the current case to make a separation between illegal file sharing and "space-shifting," or accessing a user's own songs to a different device for listening outside of a regular location, it argues that any transfer of songs that has not been explicitly approved is illegal. This appears to challenge a previous argument the RIAA itself made in front of the US Supreme Court when elaborating its position on legal use of digital music in a suit against the file sharing service Grokster.

    "It's perfectly lawful to take a CD that you've purchased, upload it onto your computer, [and] put it onto your iPod," music label representatives said at the time. "There is a very, very significant lawful commercial use for that device, going forward."

    The defendants, Jeffrey and Pamela Howell, have up to January 11th to respond to the brief ahead of a hearing on January 24th.
    I'm pretty sure I should be getting 700 years in jail or something.

    This is complete bullshit. The best way for them to solve this problem:
    the RIAA contends that ripping CDs leads to "viral" copyright infringement; a single disc can result in millions of copies if shared through a peer-to-peer service, the brief claims.
    maybe they should stop selling CDs
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    Wow, then I have broken the law over 400 times putting all my cds onto my mac....
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    Seriously, just wipe out the RIAA. They are obsolete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyface View Post
    Seriously, just wipe out the RIAA. They are obsolete.
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    Despite the fact that I steal music all the time...

    Sometimes I do make back up copies of albums onto blank discs so that I don't mess up the real copy.
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    So, they ar going to try and sue a few hundred million people then. Even their own employees would be guilty of this. I would love it if the president of the RIAA was given a subpeona over this.



    Alchemy, I do this too. And from what the digital rights bill thingy says, its perfectly legal to do that. So wtf?!?

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    balls
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    The RIAA is so stupid. So smaller artists might need to get real jobs to support their music hobbies. Most musicians need to get real jobs anyways.
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    this is almost comical.
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    Did EMI finally slash funding for RIAA?

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    crazzz2007 is going to be so happy about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canexplain View Post
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    Default Re: RIAA claims CD rips are piracy in lawsuit

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    The defendants, Jeffrey and Pamela Howell, have up to January 11th to respond to the brief ahead of a hearing on January 24th.
    what is the story behind them?

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    Default Re: RIAA claims CD rips are piracy in lawsuit

    Ill guess they are the ones who are even getting in trouble to start with? I wanna know how many cds they ripped.



    Edit: upon reading the PDF. Yeah they are being hosed for 11 songs, that a bot downloaded from them.
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    Default Re: RIAA claims CD rips are piracy in lawsuit

    same. also want to know the fine they'll have to pay, so i can estimate the fine i'll have to pay if i were to ever get caught.

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    Default Re: RIAA claims CD rips are piracy in lawsuit

    The irony of me breaking the law as I post this is not lost on me!
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    Default Re: RIAA claims CD rips are piracy in lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by J~$$$ View Post
    crazzz2007 is going to be so happy about this.
    what's your point? just because the RIAA made the argument does not make them correct. they are obviously wrong.

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