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    Actually randy, miscorrections was right, considering the context of what she said.
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    Carbohydrates, in the form we intake them, are giant polymers of various sugars. They can be broken down into smaller glycogen chains, or broken down to glucose, or fructose, or turned into fatty acids. It all depends what kind of situation you're in, but for the typical non-starved person they get converted to glycogen and fatty acids. So, while fatty acids aren't sugars, glycogen is the storage form of glucose (made from glucose 6-phosphate). Don't fuck with me, I just took metabolic biochem.
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    I love carbohydrates.

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    Great, you took metabolic biochem. So you want to tell me that high-fructose corn syrup and raw sugar are processed exactly the same as carbohydrates from fatty acid and grease? Are you sure about this?
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    Of course not, because sugars and fatty acids are different. Duh. Fries have both.

    Although, with the fatty acids, those'll be oxidized down to acetyl CoA and then, in a typical non-starved person, the acetyl CoA can be pushed through the citric acid cycle to fuel oxidative phosphorylation, just like a glucose molecule would do (although that has to get converted to pyruvate and then to acetyl CoA first).
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    there are not carbs in fatty acids/grease.
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    Right, but in what proportion? You're seriously trying to say that (besides diabetes) you can't envision any legitimate reason to not want to add heavily sugared soda into a value meal? Really?
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    If you're already flooding your system with shit I don't see that a soda is going to pose much more of a problem than you already have.
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    It is pretty absurd for someone to order a diet coke with a big mac value meal, but at the same time they are cutting down their sugar intake.
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    That's a brilliant position. You're going to do fantastic in biochem. So then smokers shouldn't bother trying not to smoke more either, right? I guess fat people should just get as fat as possible? Alcoholics might as well just get underneath the tap.

    How do you not see these corners you paint yourself into?
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    If I'm splurging, damnit, I'm splurging all the way. No namby-pamby diet nonsense for me.
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    Also I'm not doing biochem, so whatever. And your argument in no way reflects on my scholastic abilities in that field anyway.
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    How is 180 cal. gonna make a difference in 3,000+?

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    And if you have an obesity problem, you probably shouldn't be eating fast food anyway. Drinking a diet soda is not going to solve your problems.
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    Randy, is there no middle ground for you at all, ever?

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    Large coke: 310 calories 86 carbohydrates/sugars
    Large fries: 570 calories 70 carbohydrates 0 sugars
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    hey miscorrections, I have not thought about metaboolism for like 2 years. I do developmental genetics. Anyway, is the enzyme that converts pyruvate into A-CoA the rate limiting enzyme for entering the TCA cycle opposed to fatty acid biogenesis.
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    Large coke: 310 calories 86 carbohydrates/sugars
    Large fries: 570 calories 70 carbohydrates 0 sugars
    randy, fries have sugar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by algunz View Post
    How is 180 cal. gonna make a difference in 3,000+?
    How fucking retarded are you? Seriously? HOW THE FUCK DO YOU THINK THEY END UP WITH 3000 CALORIE DIETS, YOU GODDAMN IDIOT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kreutz2112 View Post
    randy, fries have sugar.
    ::sigh:: Processed sugar, Kreutz?
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    I like how you list the coke with carbohydrates/sugars but then with the fries they are two separate categories.

    Look up the definition of carbs if you don't think they're sugars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thelastgreatman View Post
    ::sigh:: Processed sugar, Kreutz?
    It's the difference of sucrose versus glucose/aldose/fructose/whatever. Much the same.
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    ::sigh:: Processed sugar, Kreutz?
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    There's a huge difference betweent the health value of processed sugar and the health value of naturally occurring sugar. We all know that every gram of processed sugar equals a gram of carbohydrates. Know what the figures are for a diet coke?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kreutz2112 View Post
    hey miscorrections, I have not thought about metaboolism for like 2 years. I do developmental genetics. Anyway, is the enzyme that converts pyruvate into A-CoA the rate limiting enzyme for entering the TCA cycle opposed to fatty acid biogenesis.
    The PDH complex? I don't really remember if it was rate limiting. But probably, because there are actually three complex subunits involved in that process. I'm sure it must take a while.
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    How fucking retarded are you? Seriously? HOW THE FUCK DO YOU THINK THEY END UP WITH 3000 CALORIE DIETS, YOU GODDAMN IDIOT?

    Relax. Maybe we should cut down on all the Taco Bell.

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    So then, you two's scientific position is that there's no measurable health difference between sugars that are found present in food naturally and processed sugar added through things like high-fructose corn syrup?
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    Quote Originally Posted by algunz View Post
    Relax. Maybe we should cut down on all the Taco Bell.
    Stop saying absolutely stupid things and I'll calm down. This argument is disgusting. You're all being incredibly dumb and you should cut it out.
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    There's a huge difference betweent the health value of processed sugar and the health value of naturally occurring sugar. We all know that every gram of processed sugar equals a gram of carbohydrates. Know what the figures are for a diet coke?
    No, but I'm sure water is better. If you truly want to be pointless in your calorie losses, just get a cup of water with your value meal. I'm sure it'll keep you nice and healthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thelastgreatman View Post
    So then, you two's scientific position is that there's no measurable health difference between sugars that are found present in food naturally and processed sugar added through things like high-fructose corn syrup?
    No, I'm not saying that. I just think that in the grand scheme of things, in a fast food meal, neither is doing you any favors.
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