Tool is not and has never been nu metal, you fuck.
At least in my mind, Nu-Metal is defined by dark, dirgey riffs, largely written in drop d, with introspective or darkly sarcastic lyrics. Sure, Tool could be called "alternative metal" but they were one of the forefathers of the Nu-Metal genre. Same with Rage. Just because the other bands that came after them made it suck doesn't mean that the classification isn't proper.
You guys would really rather lump Tool in with Dream Theater than Korn? At least Korn doesn't try to suck. It just comes naturally at this point.
To me, Prog is defined by bizarre song structures, instrumental wankery (not always in the pejorative) and clean, bright tones. Other than somewhat complex structures, that doesn't define Tool to me at all.
Well anyways just to report on ticket buying experience at Palladium box office today, I had gone to buy tickets for A$AP and Bassnectar. They had the A$AP no problem, but the guy said Bassnectar wasn't on sale ... *very confused* ... so I said well I thought any ticket available online on livenation for palladium, wiltern, avalon could be bought here?
Well...... apparently since they had more shows than usual on sale yesterday, the guy was nice enough to explain to me that they have to make a "J" type code for tickets to be sold at the box office with no service fees. And from what he let on theres only one girl that does this, and I guess she hadn't gotten to making Bassnectar a "J" type ticket. So he would have been able to sell me the ticket for full price that I would have paid online, which wouldn't have done anything for me anyways.
This kind of reinforces the point I was trying to make a couple days ago about buying at the box office there, and risking the show selling out already the day before, just in a seperate issue. If it is a show that has a high chance of selling out, or just something you really really can't miss go ahead and just buy in the regular on sale on Friday if you have the means, and take advantage of their 3 day return policy. Cause I learned today not only can it sell out before, but I guess its possible that they can't get to making the code on time either for god knows what reason.. you would think they have a whole week to do it from the time the on sale gets announced but oh well. Its not like they care I drove all the way from orange county haha.
Faith No More is the gay dad of nu-metal -- Rage Against the Machine, Tool and Deftones transcended; contemporary/alternative metal.
I definitely understand the animosity, since Nu-Metal is normally used as a negative term, but if it is intended to define a type of style rather than refer to crappy music in an insulting way, then I think it's fitting for FnM, Rage, Tool, etc. But then again, it's problematic because I could easily see Alice in Chains fitting into that category based on my qualifications as well, but they are one of the few bands that I truly think of as Grunge.
So basically, fuck genre. Deftones is just an awesome band, especially live.
Did it wrong.
Had a great time at the free Egyptian Lover/Arabian Prince concert in MacArthur Park tonight. And Dam Funk was the special guest opener. It was quite a funky evening.
Dirty Projectors were spot on tonight. It was my first time hearing all of the new songs, and they were good. I swear the first few minutes of Useful Chamber ione of my favorite bits of music ever. Was nice hanging out with boardies as well!
Dirty Projectors were really good tonight. The sequencing of the setlist was a bit of a head scratcher at first...I mean, I don't care how good or well-received your new album is, it is always a no no to start off a show with 5 new songs in a row (and especially opening with the slowest song on the new album?).
But after that the show picked up very quickly. The highlights were definitely what was no less than an apocalyptic version of "Useful Chamber", jaw-dropping and much more intense than it was on both the album and other times I'd seen it live, and "Beautiful Mother" from the Mount Wittenberg Orca EP. Completely mesmerizing. Olga fits in really well with the girls, and songs like that are borderline masturbatory they're so good.
Great meeting and hanging out with IceyHotShot! Cool kid, that one.
I haven't got chills like I did from Beautiful Mother in quite a while. Unto Caesar was a rather unexpected highlight as well, missing banter aside.
Really fun night, got a setlist and enjoyed meeting TallGuy, Icey, NMH, and Cutter!
EDIT: Only downside was watching the guy in front of me at merch get the last tour-only 7"..
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Pemberton (7/18-20) ~ FYF (8/22-23)
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Prostitutes, Black Hat @ f8 10/10/14
Treasure Island @ Treasure Island 10/18 & 10/19/14
Roman Flugel @ f8 10/22/14
Moodymann @ PW 10/25/14
Death From Above 1979 @ The Independent 11/17/14
The Drive by Truckers, Sturgill Simpson @ The Fillmore 11/20/14
Caribou @The Fillmore 03/01/14
Really loved Dirty Projectors last night!!! Such an awesome live band. The crowd was eating it up and the band was enjoying everyone. The girl singers were all very amazing, and really cute aswell. Thought Wye Oak was a good opener and they faired better in a room vs outdoors.
Totally agree on Wye Oak, I saw them at the Greek opening for the Decemberists and was fairly bored but loved their set last night. New songs sounded great as well.
Pemberton (7/18-20) ~ FYF (8/22-23)
Something to be on the look out for...
Sonar Festival is doing a branded tour through the US in October and November... Apparently going to hit the Shrine... From what I've seen so far there should be some solid EDM names on the lineup...
As a fairly avid nu-metal fan in my formative music years (I still frequent ThePRP.com) Tool has next-to-nothing to do with that genre.
I've actually been curious to know who coined the term 'nu-metal' in the first place. Wikipedia doesn't shed much light. I'd assume it was a pejorative term from a journalist or critic.
Nobody has one cause I think everyone is going to go even if theyre sick and dying.