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[theklein25]

Avery Johnson fired.

unbelievable. Though I didn't see the Nets being 14-14 right now, 16-12 is probably what they should be. Joe Johnson looks burned out

[SepaGroove]

unbelievable. Though I didn't see the Nets being 14-14 right now, 16-12 is probably what they should be. Joe Johnson looks burned out

I've always thought Joe Johnson was overrated.

He shows up sometimes and has a great game, but most of the time he's mediocre.

[ods..]

I'd take Joe Johnson over Dwight most days. No jokes

[SepaGroove]

They play two completely different positions dude.

[heart cooks brain]

unbelievable. Though I didn't see the Nets being 14-14 right now, 16-12 is probably what they should be. Joe Johnson looks burned out

you don't spend a trillion dollars to move your team to brooklyn and go .500

[SepaGroove]

Avery Johnson makes me laugh when he speaks.

[fiopadp7791]

Ugh... yuck. What the fuck was that last night T-Pups? They haven't exactly set the world on fire since K-Love returned from injury.

[Gribbz]

Daron Williams: coach killa.

[fiopadp7791]

Daron Williams: coach killa.

He'll unsuccessfully deny til the day he dies that he forced Jerry Sloan outta Utah before forcing a trade outta Utah.

Derrick Williams- undaachieva

[Mr. Dylanja]

He's not even a top 5 PG.

[Neighborhood Creep]

Ugh... yuck. What the fuck was that last night T-Pups? They haven't exactly set the world on fire since K-Love returned from injury.

I'm happy we're at 500, truthfully. I don't see us competing with OKC for obvious reasons but we're only 1 game behind Denver who is second in our NW conference.

[unit300021]

He's not even a top 5 PG.

What 5 point guards are better then him? I know he is having a down year but I would still take him over Westbrook or Parker.

Also why does Dwayne Wade only get a one game suspension for purposely kicking Ramon Sessions in the groin but Rondo gets two for just hard shoving and intervening in a fight?

[Mr. Dylanja]

1. Chris Paul
2. Rajon Rondo
3. Russell Westbrook
4. Kyrie Irving
5. Stephen Curry
6-8. Nash/Parker/Williams

Not including D-Rose.

[fiopadp7791]

I'm happy we're at 500, truthfully. I don't see us competing with OKC for obvious reasons but we're only 1 game behind Denver who is second in our NW conference.

True, they overachieved without Rubio and Love. .500 for them right now is pretty good. I just hope they can get back in the swing of things and go on a run.

[theklein25]

5. Stephen Curry .

[Mr. Dylanja]

Stephen Curry #30 Guard..........Deron Williams
2012-13 Statistics...................2012-13 Statistics
PPG 20.3................................PPG 16.6
RPG 4.40................................RPG 3.10
APG 6.4.................................APG 8.0
SPG 1.6.................................SPG 0.9
TO 3.0.................................TO 3.0
EFF + 19.97...........................EFF + 16.74


EFFICIENCY = ((Points + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks) - ((Field Goals Att. - Field Goals Made) + (Free Throws Att. - Free Throws Made) + Turnovers))


And for reference, LBJ's EFF is +39.

[vulcandeathgrip]

You guys are severally underrating Parker

[stuporfly]

Relax, everyone: The Nets are going to hire Phil Jackson.

Undaunted by Phil Jackson's reported reluctance to coach their team, Brooklyn Nets officials have established Jackson as their top target in the wake of Avery Johnson's dismissal, according to NBA coaching sources.

Sources told ESPN.com on Thursday the Nets have Jackson atop their list of potential replacements for Johnson and will make a hard push for the 67-year-old, who appeared close to returning for a third stint with the Los Angeles Lakers in November before L.A. unexpectedly gave the job to Mike D'Antoni.

Jackson's longtime representative, Todd Musburger, told TNT's David Aldridge on Thursday that his client has "no interest in the Nets' job at this time." But a source told ESPN that Jackson would indeed entertain an approach from Brooklyn and that his flirtation with the Lakers after Mike Brown's dismissal five games into the season got him "thinking about coaching again."

Another source insisted Thursday night that the Lakers' presumed reluctance to give Jackson what he wanted, in terms of salary and say in basketball matters, would not be an issue with the Nets, thanks largely to the deep pockets and affinity for stars of billionaire owner Mikhail Prokhorov.

Luring the 11-time champion out of retirement would be a coup on a number of fronts for the Nets. Jackson would not only rank as an undeniably elite coach imported to reignite Deron Williams' career, but also would give Prokhorov the privilege of ramping up the Nets' rivalry with the storied New York Knicks by hiring a Knicks legend. Jackson was a top reserve on the Knicks' championship team as a player in 1973 and long has described famed Knicks coach Red Holzman as his mentor.

It's also worth noting that Williams, in his recent critique of Johnson's offense, described himself as "a system player." Jackson, with his triangle offense, is arguably the NBA's foremost system coach, provided he can be talked into one more job after the disappointment of losing out to D'Antoni after thinking he'd be getting the Lakers' job for a third time.

Specifically where the Nets would turn in the event Jackson ultimately passes is not immediately clear. There are a number of top coaching names available in addition to Jackson, but Stan Van Gundy said he has no interest in the job. Jerry Sloan would appear to be a serious long-shot candidate given the tension with Williams before Sloan's resignation in Utah in February 2011 and the Jazz's subsequent trade of Williams to the Nets even after Sloan stepped down.

One coaching source advised Thursday that an approach for Southern Methodist University's Larry Brown could not be ruled out, even with Brown in his first season at SMU, because of Brown's close relationship with Nets general manager Billy King. Other veteran coaches available include Nate McMillan, Mike Dunleavy and the ESPN duo of Jeff Van Gundy and Flip Saunders.

After head-coaching stops in Portland, Golden State and Seattle/Oklahoma City, P.J. Carlesimo was named Brooklyn's interim coach Thursday after Johnson's firing and was told by King to approach the job "like he's going to coach the team for the next 10 years."

ETA - We'll be at tonight's game at Barclays Center, so I'll bring a clipboard and see if they'll let me chime in on a few plays.

[Gribbz]

He's not even a top 5 PG.

Agreed. He's extremely overrated.

[GuyInTucson]

Why are you laughing? He's right. I'd take Curry over Williams right now. Look at how they're playing as individuals and look at their teams. It's not even a contest.

[GuyInTucson]

You guys are severally underrating Parker

This isn't 2007.

[theklein25]

Deron Williams is playing on a bad ankle that probably needs surgery when the seasons over. How many playoff games has curry been in? Warriors r a fluke which will have a miserable second half and get a 8th seed best

[theklein25]

Also he has joe Johnson, brook Lopez, and Gerald Wallace. I would hope he doesn't have to score 20 a night or something is seriously wrong

[unit300021]

Deron Williams is playing on a bad ankle that probably needs surgery when the seasons over. How many playoff games has curry been in? Warriors r a fluke which will have a miserable second half and get a 8th seed best

I don't like the warriors but they aren't a fluke. If you look at all the moves they have made it shows i.e. trading Ellis for a big man they needed. Signing Lee, making their bench super deep. Klay Thompson has been a great draft pick. These aren't fluke moves.

Also if Williams is playing on a bad ankle that only helps the case for Curry for Right Now, not overall, which is exactly what we are talking about. Plus the whole playoff argument it moot. This is only Curry's third or fourth season which one was spent injured and the other on a rebuilding team. Williams has had the luxuary of playing under Sloan who very rarely missed the playoffs and a Nets team this that is very under achieving at the moment. For the record I do think Williams is a better point guard but I do see the case for Curry.

[SmellyBath]

I'd take Joe Johnson over Dwight most days. No jokes

I can't completely agree with this specifically but I wanted to use it as a springboard to voice the thought that something is up with Dwight. Why does it seem like he never wants the ball on offense? He just stands around waiting to rebound, never demanding the ball. If things continue to go poorly for him and Kobe and the LA media hound him he's going to bounce to Brooklyn without a second thought.

Also, would any of you trade the 37 year old Nash and Pau for Rondo and a draft pick or roll player? It came up last night and I think it's actually a solid trade for the Lakers.

[unit300021]

Also, would any of you trade the 37 year old Nash and Pau for Rondo and a draft pick or roll player? It came up last night and I think it's actually a solid trade for the Lakers.

Depends on who the roll player was but probably not. As much as I would love to have Rondo if you are trading Pau you need to get another big in return and the only interesting one for me on the Celtics is Sullinger. However I'm not trading an unproven rookie for a top Power Forward in the league.

[SmellyBath]

Depends on who the roll player was but probably not. As much as I would love to have Rondo if you are trading Pau you need to get another big in return and the only interesting one for me on the Celtics is Sullinger. However I'm not trading an unproven rookie for a top Power Forward in the league.

But you would be receiving one of the best true point guards of the last 15 years and he is only 26. That's atleast another 5 years of top shelf production as opposed to Pau who has probably already seen his best days on top of the fact he is 32 and not getting any younger. A role playing big isn't that rare of a commodity in the league.

[Mr. Dylanja]

How many playoff games has curry been in?

How many teams has he ruined?

[unit300021]

But you would be receiving one of the best true point guards of the last 15 years and he is only 26. That's atleast another 5 years of top shelf production as opposed to Pau who has probably already seen his best days on top of the fact he is 32 and not getting any younger. A role playing big isn't that rare of a commodity in the league.

I get that but talking strictly between Celtics Lakers there isn't any role player on the Celtics that I would want. Add another team into the mix and I might go for it. However all the reasons you just pointed out are the reasons why the Celtics would never make that trade in the first place.

[Gribbz]

The Celtics don't need any more dinosaurs.