ncaa college football 07

[C DUB YA]

Also - someone please remove Lou Holtz and Lee Corso from ESPN.

(my top 5)

1. Ohio State
2. Oregon
3. BC
4. ASU (if they pull it off tonight)
5. LSU

[TomAz]

Can we please remove USF from the top 25 now.

can we please remove all of the big east while we're at it.

[bballarl]

Someone abort Nate Longshore.

[TomAz]

if you haven't seen this its kinda fun... Div III game ends with a bazillion laterals.

[full on idle]

oooooh I want to watch the hold steady at teh Newport.

Ohio State has the best defense in the country.

[caco0283]

its not hard to have the best defense when all you play is high schooool teams

[DeltaSigChi4]

Pop Warner league teams*

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[DeltaSigChi4]

University of Hawai'i remains unbeaten.

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*hair*

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[full on idle]

[C DUB YA]

its not hard to have the best defense when all you play is high schooool teams

If you knew anything about football - you'd know how ridiculous that statement is - figures coming from your location.

[C DUB YA]

oooooh I want to watch the hold steady at teh Newport.

Ohio State has the best defense in the country.

I think I'm going to that - more for Art Brut though

[Cpt. Funkaho]

if you haven't seen this its kinda fun... Div III game ends with a bazillion laterals.

That play is ridiculous. I count a total of fifteen laterals from snap to touchdown. Imagine the nightmare of getting that all down if you were the statistician.

[bballarl]

That play is a pathetically bad sequence on the defense's part.

Also, the guy at the end apes Joe Starkey. Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

[TomAz]

its not hard to have the best defense when all you play is high schooool teams

If you knew anything about football - you'd know how ridiculous that statement is - figures coming from your location.

yeah c'mon Ronnie. They've played a killer Big 10 schedule featuring Northwestern and Minnesota, as well as tough non-conference powerhouses Youngstown State, Akron, and Kent State.

[full on idle]

You need a new hobby. This one's turned you bitter.

[TomAz]

i've been bitter since i was 10.

[C DUB YA]

yeah c'mon Ronnie. They've played a killer Big 10 schedule featuring Northwestern and Minnesota, as well as tough non-conference powerhouses Youngstown State, Akron, and Kent State.

You guys are funny.

We all know the 3 non conference games are just a tune up for the Bucks - so what? They're in state games and a lot of politics (and money) goes into scheduling those, way ahead of time I might add. The BCS is the last thing they are thinking about when Akron gets put on the schedule. It hurts us a little in public opinion but that's something you can win through, unless you are Michigan, who will always have the App State game on their backs this season. Too bad, cuz Michigan is a lot better than most people think they are.

Back to Ohio State. The fact is we've won our games. We've had a couple of opponents ranked, some not ranked. It's funny that no one says shit when Washington was suppossed to be a big test for us - then it was Penn State being a big test, next it will be Wisconsin, then Michigan. Blah, blah, blah... I'm so sick of it - OSU is fucking good - deal with it. Penn Sate is a tough team, esp at home, and we basically wiped our asses with all the white out shit they turned out last night. The Buckeyes fucking killed them, a top 25 team, no less. Funny how no one says shit about THAT. It's all we haven't played anyone. I say, shut the fuck up unless you are undefeated at this point, because it sounds like a bunch of spoiled crybabies who have lost their shot at the title. Blame the BCS system instead of blaming the Buckeyes schedule.

So, all the Pac 10 teams (or as I like to call it - the no defense league) go ahead keep saying we're not that good. It's pretty tired by now. Shit, USC plays fucking Stanford, and guess what - they got beat. Stanford would be a laughing stock in the Big Ten - maybe the Big East even. If you don't play in the SEC, then you shouldn't say shit about toughness, and even then, I think it would be smart to keep your trap shut. So are there more "Stanfords" in the Pac 10 than the Big 10? No, not this year. The Big 10 isn't as strong from top to bottom as it's been in years past, but that does not mean its not a tough conference. Going undefeated is a hard thing to do - no matter what conference you play in (except if you're Hawaii, cuz you truely don't play anyone).

Suck it - suck it hard and suck it long.

[C DUB YA]

Corso just said Oregon and LSU should be ranked 1 and 2, hahahaha - what a dumbass.

[TomAz]

Pac 10 > SEC this year.

Stated.

[TomAz]

also, Penn State is not very good. sorry.

[C DUB YA]

they're good enough (ranked 25 at the time), I mean to silence this we don't play anyone shit.

[TomAz]

beat michigan by more than oregon did, then we might be able to have a conversation.

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[C DUB YA]

beat michigan by more than oregon did, then we might be able to have a conversation.

Deal.

BUT - you really can't compare. You have to figure in how Mich and OSU play each other - they leave it all on the field for the biggest rivalry in college football. Oregon and Michigan was a bit of a mystery for both teams. In the end not only did michigan get outplayed - they got out coached and out scouted. If Ohio State went out and killed Oregon State, I wouldn't say they were automatically better than Oregon just because Oregon didn't beat them as bad. Does that make sense?

[arbouler]

^when did oregon state come into the conversation?

[dorkfish]

his point was that Oregon State and Oregon are rivals. And Michigan and Ohio State are rivals. You can't compare scores from game to game, and you really can't compare rivalry scores.

So if Ohio State beats Michigan by a score differential less impressive than Oregon's early-season thumping of Michigan, it holds no merit. Just as if Ohio State were to destroy the Oregon State Beavers on a level greater than what the Ducks do.

[caco0283]

If you knew anything about football - you'd know how ridiculous that statement is - figures coming from your location.

yeah i guess comeing from florida i would think the gators have the hardest schedule.....WAIT THEY DO.....the sec is the thoughest conference now....look at the amount of top 25 teams are in the sec

[TomAz]

Deal.

BUT - you really can't compare. You have to figure in how Mich and OSU play each other - they leave it all on the field for the biggest rivalry in college football. Oregon and Michigan was a bit of a mystery for both teams. In the end not only did michigan get outplayed - they got out coached and out scouted. If Ohio State went out and killed Oregon State, I wouldn't say they were automatically better than Oregon just because Oregon didn't beat them as bad. Does that make sense?

his point was that Oregon State and Oregon are rivals. And Michigan and Ohio State are rivals. You can't compare scores from game to game, and you really can't compare rivalry scores.

So if Ohio State beats Michigan by a score differential less impressive than Oregon's early-season thumping of Michigan, it holds no merit. Just as if Ohio State were to destroy the Oregon State Beavers on a level greater than what the Ducks do.

yeah. i wasn't serious when I made that comment. comparing scores is silly.

[TomAz]

yeah i guess comeing from florida i would think the gators have the hardest schedule.....WAIT THEY DO.....the sec is the thoughest conference now....look at the amount of top 25 teams are in the sec

actually Notre Dame has the hardest schedule.

Florida's strength of schedule is ranked sixth.

Ohio State's is ranked 67th.

[C DUB YA]

yeah i guess comeing from florida i would think the gators have the hardest schedule.....WAIT THEY DO....

they also have no shot at the title.