Beatles, Tool, Radiohead, Pink Floyd. Everyone else is... something else.
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How do i make this show on the thread?
2011 Wishlist: Soviet Soviet, Swans, Heroin and Your Veins, Lower Dens, The December Sound, Scarlet Youth, Faunts, Bad Lieutenant, The Besnard Lakes, The Raveonettes, Screen Vinyl Image, Sway
Beatles music is everywhere. It's on the radio, it's in stores, it's in ads, it's part of the cultural wallpaper. and since it is so pervasive it is very easy for people to just hear it as mere background, and not really take it seriously. especially when much of what you hear is Paul's lighterweight stuff.
I think it takes real effort to punch through that 'background' perception and hear the Beatles' music afresh, to hear Sgt Pepper as it would have been heard 40 years ago, for example. It takes forced, focused listening; otherwise it's too easy to just tune it out since it's already so familiar. That's why I suggested to Amy that she listen to the White Album. Of all the Beatles' music that album is probably the least present in the noise of popular culture and so may be easiest to hear outside of that context. Also it's really good.
i dont think anyone argues AGAINST the beatles...but ya...the only people who talk shit about avatars are, well just that one ass clown, ragingdave.
Ok here it goes these two are my favs.
The Beatles are fine, but I do not like Paul McCartney's solo catalogue.
Do you want to know why Radiohead sucks? Because they are 99% pretense and wankery. Rarely if ever do you hear an inventive chord progression. Rarely if ever do you hear a clever melody or harmony. Even within the slightly-adventurous Idioteque, Yorke utterly fails to capitalize on the somewhat promising foundation with an engaging melody, and instead he just whines out a mediocre one… disappointing the listener on one of the band's rare tunes that has an actual glimmer of hope.
And yet legions of hipsters fawn all over Radiohead like they are the Second Coming. It's downright bizarre. How is it even possible that so many people out there could be so musically naÔve? Oh right, because their brains have already dribbled out of their ears from listening to all of that tragically generic indie rock from the past 20 years.
The first time I heard Kid A, I was absolutely bored out of my mind. Sorry, but after listening extensively to virtually every genre of rock and jazz for decades, to then hear a few guys fiddle with a synthesizer and struggle to piece together simple musical ideas was a disappointment of colossal proportions. It's so bad that you actually begin to wonder if it's really just a big musical joke, or some ingenious experiment to see how many complete idiots will worship awful music just because they are desperately trying to conform to a subculture.
So if Radiohead is the best band from the late-90's/2000's era, then that must be why that era sucks so badly, and why rock music is all but dead.
Do you want to know why Diagoras sucks? Because he is 99% ignorance and bluster. Rarely if ever do you read an original thought. Rarely if ever do you read a logical or fact-based observation. Even within the slightly-adventurous Radiohead post, Diagoras utterly fails to capitalize on the somewhat promising foundation with an entertaining premise, and instead he just whines out the same old shit that countless others before him have whined about. He is a mediocre thinker and listener… disappointing the reader by resorting to baseless claims and assertions without bothering to try to support his positions with reason.
He claims that Radiohead's popularity is "downright bizarre" and that their fans are "musically naÔve" Apparently the musically naive includes New Yorker music critic Alex Ross. Essentially he repeats the same old tired cliche' that Radiohead fans are 'sheep' but is unable to offer one ounce of substance to give his stance any credibility -- other than the fact that he, himself, doens't like Radiohead's music.
And therein we see the real problem... the issue is not Radiohead, it is Diagoras. A failed, angry little twit who lashes out aimlessly at people he perceives as unworthy of accolades.. a classic Jungian phenomenon if there ever was one. Unable to make anything worthwhile with his own life, he disparages those who do, and then mocks others who see the merit. The mocking, however, is not genuine; it masks a longing, a bittersweet memory, a desire to be included not left out.
I know a few people like Diagoras. The calling card is not the "this band sucks" post (god knows I do that enough); it is the pseudointellectual, pseudoknowledgable, pseudocondescending attacks on the fans that shows him for what he is: a bitter douchebag.