An Open Letter To Paul Tollet

It's funny sometimes to see what happens when people start talking about ideas.

It's better when they talk about Radiohead.

Or Bonny Bear

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Originally Posted by algunz

Damn, I want to say stuff, but I just am not ready for another asshole.

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Damn, how cool would that be to be able to shit and talk out your ass at the same time?

I wouldn't know. Tell us about it.

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Originally Posted by blackchango

It's funny sometimes to see what happens when people start talking about ideas.

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Originally Posted by BROKENDOLL

Damn, how cool would that be to be able to shit and talk out your ass at the same time?

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Originally Posted by algunz

I wouldn't know. Tell us about it.

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One day you'll thank me for providing you the chance at delivering that CRUSHING BLOW...

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Originally Posted by algunz

Goat, has a point, but he hides it well with the way he parts his hair.

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Well done!

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Originally Posted by Goatchella

my whole crew bought tickets from craigslist...the wristbands are so advanced....you have to be an idiot to get scammed.

the only possible way is to buy a deactivated wristband that someone claimed they lost....even then they will usually send you to will call or somewhere to get a new wristband on site and your all good.

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The "chip" on the bracelet is the only thing that needs to be authentic.

If you have a "real" fabric bracelet with a fake chip you are not getting in.

If you have a photocopy of the bracelent and a real chip you're all but certain to get in all 3 days.

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Originally Posted by Bumblebee

The "chip" on the bracelet is the only thing that needs to be authentic.

If you have a "real" fabric bracelet with a fake chip you are not getting in.

If you have a photocopy of the bracelent and a real chip you're all but certain to get in all 3 days.

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missing the point.

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Originally Posted by nathanfairchild

missing the point.

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How do festival veterans that failed initial onsales thru no fault of their own, prove the authenticity of a wristband on the secondary market? Especially those travelling in who aren't sure stubhub can send it to them in time? Stubhub/Ebay only claim the return on your money.

Parking lot purchases may be very affordable but can also be a hotbed for scammers - especially if non-wristband wearers can't go within a mile of the gate.

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Originally Posted by algunz

It's better when they talk about Radiohead.

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So Thom Yorke and Johnny Greenwood performing selected tracks for 2013 yes?

It makes me thing I've made a mistake in my thinking somewhere, but it seems to me that Bumblebee has a valid point. The wristbands are advanced, yes, but this only prevents Goldenvoice from getting scammed. Unless you have an RFID reader and know which codes indicate valid passes, the 'advanced wristbands' do nothing to protect the consumer from buying a fraudulent ticket on the secondary market.

you could register them to see if they were good couldn't you? they should put a scanner so you can validate with cell phones.

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Originally Posted by TomAz

It makes me thing I've made a mistake in my thinking somewhere, but it seems to me that Bumblebee has a valid point. The wristbands are advanced, yes, but this only prevents Goldenvoice from getting scammed. Unless you have an RFID reader and know which codes indicate valid passes, the 'advanced wristbands' do nothing to protect the consumer from buying a fraudulent ticket on the secondary market.

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At a minimum, GV should hold the original buyer accountable. If a wristband is disabled and resold, the original account holder should be banned from purchasing from GV again.

Once for a Lakers game I re-printed my ticket because I misplaced it, found the other and accidently scanned the wrong one. I pretty much had to write a long essay to the Season Ticket office on what happened and how I won’t do it again or my privileges would be revoked. Just that one instance, and I had a 30 day probationary period where I couldn't sell, reprint, or forward tickets from my account.

The ultimate in first world problems.

Dear Paul Tollet.

This thread is my confirmation as to why I completely trust you and your staff to make my concert decisions.

Carry on and thank you.

Sincerely, and with an oxford comma,

FB

Dear Paul,

Can you make sure FB gets a pass for next year?

Thanks,
Somebody who deserves it more

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Originally Posted by Goatchella

you could register them to see if they were good couldn't you? they should put a scanner so you can validate with cell phones.

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I am going to do you a great favor right now and show you where you have gone wrong.

1. A seller is not going to allow a buyer to register them until he has received payment. A buyer who wants to validate by registration will not want to give money first. The only way this works is via an in-person transaction in the presence of a laptop and an wifi connection. This significantly reduces the potential market.

2. I don't think the registration number is physically connected to the RFID chip, is it? (I don't remember exactly). I thought it was printed on the wristband, not the actual chip itself? If so you could still have a valid code with an invalid/dummy chip inside. Or, alternatively, doesn't seem like it would be hard to counterfeit a duplicate registration number.

3. What they should do and what they actually do are two separate things. And it's what they actually do that matters.

it was on the chip, tom.

I think you can register the wristband on your smart phone too. At least I logged into that Coachella website on my phone a couple times.

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Originally Posted by Bumblebee

How do festival veterans that failed initial onsales thru no fault of their own, prove the authenticity of a wristband on the secondary market? Especially those travelling in who aren't sure stubhub can send it to them in time? Stubhub/Ebay only claim the return on your money.

Parking lot purchases may be very affordable but can also be a hotbed for scammers - especially if non-wristband wearers can't go within a mile of the gate.

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I helped a friend buy off a third party this past year. We found someone BEFORE the passes were being sent out. Used PayPal to give her money. In exchange, she emailed Frontgate with her order asking to have a name change. We also asked for access to her Frontgate account, in which we changed ALL her information to my friend's to ensure that the wristbands would be mailed to him and not the original purchaser.

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Originally Posted by JustSteve

it was on the chip, tom.

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Right, but, still, seems like an enterprising young criminal could counterfeit something that looked like a chip and had an ID code on it that was a copy from a known valid number?

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Originally Posted by fatbastard

Dear Paul Tollet.

This thread is my confirmation as to why I completely trust you and your staff to make my concert decisions.

Carry on and thank you.

Sincerely, and with an oxford comma,

FB

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100% my stance. These fucking tards can't do it better than their "leader". What an insult to even suggest otherwise. After all these years of making this place you all worship and your going to try to outsmart the creator of the festival or suggest they are doing it wrong. lol

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Originally Posted by TomAz

I am going to do you a great favor right now and show you where you have gone wrong.

1. A seller is not going to allow a buyer to register them until he has received payment. A buyer who wants to validate by registration will not want to give money first. The only way this works is via an in-person transaction in the presence of a laptop and an wifi connection. This significantly reduces the potential market.

2. I don't think the registration number is physically connected to the RFID chip, is it? (I don't remember exactly). I thought it was printed on the wristband, not the actual chip itself? If so you could still have a valid code with an invalid/dummy chip inside. Or, alternatively, doesn't seem like it would be hard to counterfeit a duplicate registration number.

3. What they should do and what they actually do are two separate things. And it's what they actually do that matters.

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yeah...ok

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Originally Posted by JustSteve

it was on the chip, tom.

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yes

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Originally Posted by amyzzz

I think you can register the wristband on your smart phone too. At least I logged into that Coachella website on my phone a couple times.

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yes

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Originally Posted by Robin

I helped a friend buy off a third party this past year. We found someone BEFORE the passes were being sent out. Used PayPal to give her money. In exchange, she emailed Frontgate with her order asking to have a name change. We also asked for access to her Frontgate account, in which we changed ALL her information to my friend's to ensure that the wristbands would be mailed to him and not the original purchaser.

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fuck yes!

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Originally Posted by Miroir Noir

The ultimate in first world problems.

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The entire message board is bitching about 1st world problems with 1 exception.......easy access to free water.

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Originally Posted by Robin

I helped a friend buy off a third party this past year. We found someone BEFORE the passes were being sent out. Used PayPal to give her money. In exchange, she emailed Frontgate with her order asking to have a name change. We also asked for access to her Frontgate account, in which we changed ALL her information to my friend's to ensure that the wristbands would be mailed to him and not the original purchaser.

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Does this involve having the ticket buyer(s) access to the 3rd party's CC numbers or other information that should remain private?

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Originally Posted by Bumblebee

Does this involve having the ticket buyer(s) access to the 3rd party's CC numbers or other information that should remain private?

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Nope. The seller deleted her CC info from her acct before giving him access.
Frontgate only shows the last 4 digits, anyways.

funny how whenever these genius board members are proven wrong, the thread dies all of a sudden and they don't want to play....wahhh

Not wanting to play and tiring of your inanity are two different things.

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Originally Posted by JustSteve

that's what is now wrong with this county. everyone is special, we all deserve the same, where's my participation trophy, i deserve my piece of the pie. look where we are now thanks to those thoughts.

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Originally Posted by TomAz

I am confused by what logic writing an open letter to a business leader constitutes "asshole sucking".

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Originally Posted by TomAz

I am confused why somebody wealthy enough to rent a boss hawg suite at La Quinta has to buy his tickets on layaway.

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Originally Posted by RotationSlimWang

I am confused why somebody who by his own admission is low man on the totem pole at some kind of weed growing operation is apparently so wealthy.

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Originally Posted by TomAz

I am going to do you a great favor right now and show you where you have gone wrong.

1. A seller is not going to allow a buyer to register them until he has received payment. A buyer who wants to validate by registration will not want to give money first. The only way this works is via an in-person transaction in the presence of a laptop and an wifi connection. This significantly reduces the potential market.

2. I don't think the registration number is physically connected to the RFID chip, is it? (I don't remember exactly). I thought it was printed on the wristband, not the actual chip itself? If so you could still have a valid code with an invalid/dummy chip inside. Or, alternatively, doesn't seem like it would be hard to counterfeit a duplicate registration number.

3. What they should do and what they actually do are two separate things. And it's what they actually do that matters.

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Originally Posted by JustSteve

it was on the chip, tom.

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Originally Posted by amyzzz

I think you can register the wristband on your smart phone too. At least I logged into that Coachella website on my phone a couple times.

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Originally Posted by Robin

I helped a friend buy off a third party this past year. We found someone BEFORE the passes were being sent out. Used PayPal to give her money. In exchange, she emailed Frontgate with her order asking to have a name change. We also asked for access to her Frontgate account, in which we changed ALL her information to my friend's to ensure that the wristbands would be mailed to him and not the original purchaser.

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Seems to be a lot of confusion and stupidity. Maybe your own stupid opinions have become inane????
If you fucks want to act as a rabid pack, you will all be grouped into one. Your leaders and self appointed message board deputies are dragging you down.

Separate yourself from the pack and anyone of you would be eaten alive. Strength in numbers. Power in prejudice.