Lolla's Posted Set Times Easily Defeat Coachella

[rstayton]

Lollapalooza manages to post set times weeks before their show. What gives, Coachella? Nice to have so folks know who they will and won't be able to see, i.e. who they should be listening to in the weeks leading up to the show.

[el chango]

and so..???

[Alchemy]

If you need more than a couple days to look over the set times, then your mind processes are too slow to attend Coachella in the first place.

[bartelby]

sniffle

[miseducation]

If you need more than a couple days to look over the set times, then your mind processes are too slow to attend Coachella in the first place.

"I'm so smart that I can divulge entire discographies in mere minutes!" is practically what you're getting at here.

I understand that you shouldn't need more than a few hours to really decide what you want to see (although I'm usually carrying a ragged print out and making calculations till the day of, and then it becomes a ragged little booklet of improvisation) but I think you're missing this guy's point.

It kinda sucks to get into a bunch of bands and blindly discover they'll all be playing at the same time. Mind you, we should really be thankful that we discovered all these great new bands in the first place - but it's frustrating.

It's like you're studying for the Coachella Final Exam but the Professor won't tell you what's gonna be on the test so you just study every damn thing you learned in that class. And while you get out learning more by studying like that - we'd probably all get better "grades" if we had these set times at least a little bit earlier.

(Grades: recognition of songs played/built up fatigue * actual performance value = enjoyment of set)

[brassneck]

I would think the set times were set when the contracts were signed, but maybe they do things differently at Golden Voice. "When you get to Indio, we'll let you know what time you go on."

[suprefan]

I would think the set times were set when the contracts were signed, but maybe they do things differently at Golden Voice. "When you get to Indio, we'll let you know what time you go on."

Oh yeah good one, so when Rage signed on the dotted line they were told "Hey guys, you will be playing at 10:00pm on Sunday night ok?" Give me a break, and yeah this can be a double edged sword you know. Lets say somebody cancels a few days before, how will they adjust the entire schedule that has been posted and that people have been memorizing? They do it this way to make sure there are no f**k ups, and how do you know they dont take OUR opinions into it either?




i.e. who they should be listening to in the weeks leading up to the show.

Set times SHOULD NOT DICTATE who you should be listening to leading up to the festival, thats unheard of logic. People should be listening to everyone so they can see what they really like and then pick.



I have a feeling this is going to turn into like the little fiasco the Roo kids had with us when the line up was not on the page when it was supposed to but we still had one anyway on here.

[Sexecutioner]

It's like you're studying for the Coachella Final Exam but the Professor won't tell you what's gonna be on the test so you just study every damn thing you learned in that class. And while you get out learning more by studying like that - we'd probably all get better "grades" if we had these set times at least a little bit earlier.

(Grades: recognition of songs played/built up fatigue * actual performance value = enjoyment of set)

haha, that was an awesome analogy. i totally agree.


Set times SHOULD NOT DICTATE who you should be listening to leading up to the festival, thats unheard of logic. People should be listening to everyone so they can see what they really like and then pick.


I agree we should be listening to everything to learn new music. Thats why Coachella is great, it turns me on to so many new artists every year. That being said, I still wish they would release the set times a little earlier then they do. I dont need it a month before, but at least a week would be nice.

To use the above analogy again: If set times were released a week ahead of time, then I could study all the material up until the last week, when I would get the study guide, and then use the last week to only cram whats on the study guide. 2 days is not enough time to put emphasis on whats on the study guide.

[conklin]

As long as we have the set times before we travel to Coachella, its fine by me. I will be travelling on the Wednesday and won't have access to a computer, and cell phone charges are ridiculous if you have a Canadian contract.

[ragingdave]

That's becasue Canadians are ridiculous.

[vinylmartyr]

http://www.icanhascheezburger.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/canada-cats-1.jpg

[bartelby]

meow

[suprefan]

As long as we have the set times before we travel to Coachella, its fine by me. I will be travelling on the Wednesday and won't have access to a computer, and cell phone charges are ridiculous if you have a Canadian contract.

If you are camping there will be computer access on the camp grounds. You could always find a cyber cafe too and look it up. Also there is "Whats Up Coach". You will get text messages with updates like set times and other things. Check the main page for that info.

[rkawar]

why are people defending GV on the set time issue? If someone drops fucking adjust it! There's NO reason not to release the set times way in advance! If you have any major conflicts you can spend the weeks figuring out what you're going to do. AND you can spend time getting to know the bands that are in timeslots you dont care about.

GV is going about this all wrong.

[psychic friend]

oh boo hoo, we are not like everyone else.

[rkawar]

maybe you should consider it, that way if a festival comes to california that isnt coachella, everyone wont choose that over this one.

[John Peel is My Co-pilot]

Set times SHOULD NOT DICTATE who you should be listening to leading up to the festival, thats unheard of logic. People should be listening to everyone so they can see what they really like and then pick.

Who has the free time to listen to the entire discography of over 100 bands?

[psychic friend]

i have nightmares about that. i worry

[HEADSTRUCK]

they do that cause they dont have line ups for each day when annouced like coachella......then people that only go for one day know what day to get their ticket for

[suprefan]

why are people defending GV on the set time issue? If someone drops fucking adjust it! There's NO reason not to release the set times way in advance! If you have any major conflicts you can spend the weeks figuring out what you're going to do. AND you can spend time getting to know the bands that are in timeslots you dont care about.

GV is going about this all wrong.

If they are going about it wrong why is it sold out this year?

[bartelby]

you guys are all such whiners....(the whiners, that is - not the rest of you)

[CrackTheLoveCode]

maybe you should consider it, that way if a festival comes to california that isnt coachella, everyone wont choose that over this one.

Because the first thing people look at when choosing a festival is when they release their set times? I admit I'm antsy to see who's playing when but I really don't need them until a couple of days before so I can plan accordingly.

[suprefan]

maybe you should consider it, that way if a festival comes to california that isnt coachella, everyone wont choose that over this one.

So what, Street Scene will beat out Coachella or something? I dont think you will be seeing another big promoter try and start a festival in California to try and compete with Coachella, thats kind of career suicide at this point. And why would they choose it over this? Seriously, give me your full detailed explanation on this.



::his answer:: "because set times came out 2 days after tickets went on sale so I'm going cause (insert band name here) is playing at 6pm and at coachella they played at 9 pm so I couldnt see them cause I was rocking out to Rage."

[fober]

who they should be listening to in the weeks leading up to the show.

WTF YOUVE HAD THREE MONTHS

[matsuolost]

"I'm so smart that I can divulge entire discographies in mere minutes!" is practically what you're getting at here.

I understand that you shouldn't need more than a few hours to really decide what you want to see (although I'm usually carrying a ragged print out and making calculations till the day of, and then it becomes a ragged little booklet of improvisation) but I think you're missing this guy's point.

It kinda sucks to get into a bunch of bands and blindly discover they'll all be playing at the same time. Mind you, we should really be thankful that we discovered all these great new bands in the first place - but it's frustrating.

It's like you're studying for the Coachella Final Exam but the Professor won't tell you what's gonna be on the test so you just study every damn thing you learned in that class. And while you get out learning more by studying like that - we'd probably all get better "grades" if we had these set times at least a little bit earlier.

(Grades: recognition of songs played/built up fatigue * actual performance value = enjoyment of set)
love the metaphore!

[brassneck]

i have nightmares about that. i worry

Pretty cocky. Remember, festivals come and go. You don't own the patent on So Cal rock fests.

Lolla vs Virgin is a good example. When the talent pool thins, both festivals suffer.

[nahuatldream]

they do that cause they dont have line ups for each day when annouced like coachella......then people that only go for one day know what day to get their ticket for

That is an excellent point, in regards to Lollapalooza. At least we know who's playing on a given day, WAY in advance. And in regards to the set times, as has been pointed out before, and alluded to by PF, that 'the powers that be' are continually checking our input (via the board and the microcommunity) in an effort to minimize conflicts. Update your microcommunity profiles, people. They're watching. I'm gonna go update, Of Montreal hadn't been added when I last updated.

[suprefan]

Pretty cocky. Remember, festivals come and go. You don't own the patent on So Cal rock fests.

Lolla vs Virgin is a good example. When the talent pool thins, both festivals suffer.

Well the talent pool hasnt suffered here now has it? And yeah I dont see Coachella OR Bonnaroo going anywhere any time soon for example, so quit your whining. Also Lolla signed a deal with the city for be there for 5 more years garaunteed. Coachella is the new Glastonbury DEAL WITH IT.

[summerkid]

i looked on the lolla site and i couldn't find the set times.

[grungysabbathemohater]

oh boo hoo, we are not like everyone else.
you're right....you're not like everyone else (other festivals). You are not as considerate and fan-friendly as the other festivals (such as Bonnaroo and Lollapalooza). However, you are snotty, elitist, and indifferent (towards any festival goers that question the way things are run by GV); as well as being overpriced.
There are some open-minded posters on this board (suprefan, rosetta stoned, patton), but mostly the Coachella fans on here seem like prissy, unfriendly, indie-snobs. This is a reflection of the vibe of your festival. "(You) are not like everyone else".

Everyone is friendly and optimistic about the bands on the Bonnaroo site. This is a reflection of their festival.

So long, indie snobs (fober and psychic friend definantly top the list)! I will go chat with the friendly and open-minded souls on the 'Roo board.

[brassneck]

And yeah I dont see Coachella OR Bonnaroo going anywhere any time soon for example, so quit your whining.

I would have said the same thing about Woodstock in '99. I don't care what industry you are in - shit even Bill Gates worries about competition. You never want to get to high on the horse.

Why don't you quit being a GV apologist? They're big boys and girls - they can take the feedback without you having to chastize people for making negative comments.

[ghettojournalist]

nice line for someone with "mohater" in their name.

[summerkid]

i still dont see the set times...


edit: oh they aren't out yet so why are we arguing about this then? Seems to me there is a trade off. Coachella announces which days the artists are playing right away lolla and the roo wait until they release set times which is earlier than when coachella releases the set times.

[Sexecutioner]

coachella has nothing to worry about for a while, but that doesnt mean they shouldnt keep trying to improve based on fans input. and supposedly they do, which is good, so hopefully they will listen to this and release set times a little earlier in the future. i think a week would be good, not too much to ask, is it? 2 days just seems a little short notice, especially when some people may be traveling during those times, etc.

[BeeII]

meow

did you just say meow?

[nahuatldream]

I know i'll be travelling. We're leaving Wednesday, on a 10-11 hour drive. I joked to my girlfriend that we can stop in front of a house and pop open the laptop (you gotta love people who don't secure their wireless networks)

[nahuatldream]

did you just say meow?

settle down, meow.

[suprefan]

you're right....you're not like everyone else (other festivals). You are not as considerate and fan-friendly as the other festivals (such as Bonnaroo and Lollapalooza). However, you are snotty, elitist, and indifferent (towards any festival goers that question the way things are run by GV); as well as being overpriced.
There are some open-minded posters on this board (suprefan, rosetta stoned, patton), but mostly the Coachella fans on here seem like prissy, unfriendly, indie-snobs. This is a reflection of the vibe of your festival. "(You) are not like everyone else".

Everyone is friendly and optimistic about the bands on the Bonnaroo site. This is a reflection of their festival.

So long, indie snobs (fober and psychic friend definantly top the list)! I will go chat with the friendly and open-minded souls on the 'Roo board.


Thanks for the compliment, I think there are more open minded posters than that, but I figure those came to mind when you were typing. I think the elitism kind of came with the territory based on bands fanbases and stuff, so you do what you do.



I would have said the same thing about Woodstock in '99. I don't care what industry you are in - shit even Bill Gates worries about competition. You never want to get to high on the horse.

Why don't you quit being a GV apologist? They're big boys and girls - they can take the feedback without you having to chastize people for making negative comments.



Woodstock 99 was put on for the sole purpose to capitalize on the brand and make as much money as possible, Coachella is not on that same boat. Dude, I speak my mind and if its in their defense so be it. They havent let me down really so what the hell should I complain about? Bad things happen, we speak and they do their best to fix it.

[BeeII]

i don't obsess about set times, but i'm a fly by the seat of my pants kind of guy.

[bartelby]

that'll be all meow

[suprefan]

i don't obsess about set times, but i'm a fly by the seat of my pants kind of guy.

I kind of do too, I look at who I want to see, plan accordingly but have other options available so its not this totally structured thing. Besides who actually sticks to their plan to the T?

[musicmatters7]

easy fix goldenvoice....just dont have that many good bands...should fix the conflict issue.. maybe just one or two per day...and less food stands also please.. dont want to run into the horrid churro or nachos conflict ever again!!!
do they have nachos at the 'roo? im so there!!!

...even if i do miss a band due to conflict i still come out winning, i got into a good new band, plus if i really want to see them i can catch them when the come around LA

[bauerctu75]

In reference to the person who said that the Bonnaroo and Lollapalooza fans are more positive people in general,you kinda had a point. Coachella is still fun. So is Lollapalooza, though they have their share of other problems. The set-time thing is lame, though. I don't expect it as early as Lollapalooza puts it out but a week before might be nice.

[ThomThom]

you're right....you're not like everyone else (other festivals). You are not as considerate and fan-friendly as the other festivals (such as Bonnaroo and Lollapalooza). However, you are snotty, elitist, and indifferent (towards any festival goers that question the way things are run by GV); as well as being overpriced.
There are some open-minded posters on this board (suprefan, rosetta stoned, patton), but mostly the Coachella fans on here seem like prissy, unfriendly, indie-snobs. This is a reflection of the vibe of your festival. "(You) are not like everyone else".

Everyone is friendly and optimistic about the bands on the Bonnaroo site. This is a reflection of their festival.

So long, indie snobs (fober and psychic friend definantly top the list)! I will go chat with the friendly and open-minded souls on the 'Roo board.

Talk about a "TAKE THAT!" approach, I understand and respect your feelings but you should give some others a shot, go to the Coachella Lounge, most of the worthless indie snob crap is in the Line Up section...

[suprefan]

Talk about a "TAKE THAT!" approach, I understand and respect your feelings but you should give some others a shot, go to the Coachella Lounge, most of the worthless indie snob crap is in the Line Up section...

Hahahaha, this is why I post EVERYWHERE.

[ThomThom]

Hahahaha, this is why I post EVERYWHERE.

And I have noticed that not many people on this board do that...new posters please EXPLORE the depths of the Coachella Message Board, you will learn a thing or two, many great threads not to be mistaken for some of the shit in the Line Up/Artists section

[shoegazer76]

I can't find the set times anywhere on the Lolla site, I must be blind.

[darthlaker]

WWWWWWWaaaaaaaaaa! Coachella doesn't post set times!!. Maybe because they have more additions or maybe cause they don't want too. Do us all a favor and don't go to coachella "the best festival in the world" Go to you Perry Farrelalooza! They did get Daft Punk but Coachella devirginized that b i t c h before anybody! So There!

[ThomThom]

WWWWWWWaaaaaaaaaa! Coachella doesn't post set times!!. Maybe because they have more additions or maybe cause they don't want too. Do us all a favor and don't go to coachella "the best festival in the world" Go to you Perry Farrelalooza! They did get Daft Punk but Coachella devirginized that b i t c h before anybody! So There!

Take That Fuckers!

[suprefan]

Go to you Perry Farrelalooza! They did get Daft Punk but Coachella devirginized that b i t c h before anybody! So There!

Best post of the thread.

[mchertron]

Coachellla is still in the process of adding some more bands and believe me you will see a different line up than the one on the poster , it happenes every year. Some bands will be missing and others will be added . so we really wont know untill the first day of coachella about times . we will see a lot of surpises and thats what they want to give us , especially this year .

[suprefan]

I'm still suprised nobody has "dropped out" yet. Will we actually have a Coachella with no cancellations?

[ThomThom]

I'm still suprised nobody has "dropped out" yet. Will we actually have a Coachella with no cancellations?

I'm sure the people who are going to drop out are not going to have enough balls to tell GV in advance and we will find out that day

[shoegazer76]

I'll play if there are any last miniute cancellations. I'll rock harder than Animal Collective I gurantee.

[Alchemy]

Look kids, here is what you do.

Listen to as much of the line up as you can when it comes out, because you should know how all the bands are anyways. Because if you just rely on seeing the bands you like, you'll get into the other bands later on and say, "Damn it, I wish I had known."

As you listen to all the bands, write down all the bands on a word document. (It's even easier to just copy and paste from the line up sections, each day, in 3 pages on the document.)

While you listen to each of them, you can switch their places on the lists around, like if it is a ladder. That way you are able to think of what you want to see the most of those certain days.

Soooo, when the set times come out, you DONT have to "divulge entire discographies" because you've been doing that for months now. You just look at the set times, and at each conflict see what band beats the bands in the conflict on your ladder (as in the band in the highest position always beats the lower ones). That way you can do the entire Coachella plan in the 3 days you have the set times, without looking at the entire collections. You can use those 3 days to make sure you are positive, or think of which sets you want to do half and half, which should not take long.

[fluxequalsrad]

Coachellla is still in the process of adding some more bands and believe me you will see a different line up than the one on the poster , it happenes every year. Some bands will be missing and others will be added . so we really wont know untill the first day of coachella about times . we will see a lot of surpises and thats what they want to give us , especially this year .

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[suprefan]

Its true, what?

[ThomThom]

Look kids, here is what you do.

Listen to as much of the line up as you can when it comes out, because you should know how all the bands are anyways. Because if you just rely on seeing the bands you like, you'll get into the other bands later on and say, "Damn it, I wish I had known."

As you listen to all the bands, write down all the bands on a word document. (It's even easier to just copy and paste from the line up sections, each day, in 3 pages on the document.)

While you listen to each of them, you can switch their places on the lists around, like if it is a ladder. That way you are able to think of what you want to see the most of those certain days.

Soooo, when the set times come out, you DONT have to "divulge entire discographies" because you've been doing that for months now. You just look at the set times, and at each conflict see what band beats the bands in the conflict on your ladder (as in the band in the highest position always beats the lower ones). That way you can do the entire Coachella plan in the 3 days you have the set times, without looking at the entire collections. You can use those 3 days to make sure you are positive, or think of which sets you want to do half and half, which should not take long.

Now THAT myfriend is fucking dedication...cool format nonetheless, I just can't do it, I'll feel like I'm at work or school or some shit

[Alchemy]

Now THAT myfriend is fucking dedication...cool format nonetheless, I just can't do it, I'll feel like I'm at work or school or some shit

Haha, other than set times and plans it really helps getting to know the bands. When the line up first came out I was kind of... eh, I could have cared less for the line up.

But now, after listening to like, all of it... I think this Coachella has potential of being the best Coachella I've ever been to.

[nahuatldream]

I've been listening to all these bands since the lineup came out, and I've already fallen in love with like 75% (to be conservative, it's probably higher) of the lineup with even the rest still making me feel like "I'll check em out if nothing's on". My girlfriend and I started getting a bunch of stuff by all these bands, at least one album each, and our mp3 players are currently only carrying Coachella bands. That way I'd hear nothing but Coachella for the last few months, and really see who I like and who I don't. So far, I have to say Coachella has made it really hard by having a quality lineup from top to bottom.

The way I'm going to approach possible conflicts and such, is by ranking each band from 1 to 10 ("10" being "there's no fucking way I'm missing them, you stupid son of a bitch!" and "1" being "oooh, there's another water bottle"). I might even throw in some negatives for people I want to actually avoid (e.g. jack's mannequin and circa survive).

[Boourns]

As much as I want the damn set times already (fuck! unbearable!), Lollapalooza isn't much of a festival if they try to pass off Ben Harper as a headliner. And Daft Punk should be headlining a nice, big dance tent in addition to there being a big main stage headliner that day.

[bballarl]

Lollapalooza is obviously better than Coachella because they post set times earlier.

[shoegazer76]

Yeah Ben Harper? What the fuck? Not Headliner worthy in my eyes. Lolla's just sticking to their recipe for headliners I guess.
Festival Recipe:
Add One College Frat Band
Add One Firery Hot Electronic Band
Add One Hippie Band
Stir on High Heat
&!!!!!!
Voillah!!!!Lollal!!!!!!!!!!!!

[suprefan]

Yeah Ben Harper? What the fuck? Not Headliner worthy in my eyes. Lolla's just sticking to their recipe for headliners I guess.
Festival Recipe:
Add One College Frat Band
Add One Fiery Hot Electronic Band
Add One Hippie Band
Stir on High Heat
&!!!!!!
Voillah!!!!Lollal!!!!!!!!!!!!

You forgot "Add festival creators Sucky Side Project"

[shoegazer76]

That's the side dish.

[suprefan]

True, so whats for desert? Oh yeah MUSE, always good and never dissapoints.

[shoegazer76]

Yeah kinda like chocolate mousse or cheescake. Oh shit now everybody is gonna be posting pictures of cheescake again. Damn it.

[Boourns]

Mmm...cheesecake. I had the best a couple months ago. It was a layer of cheesecake between two layers of chocolate fudge cake. Oh my God.

[shoegazer76]

You know whats great about cheescake? Its so versatile, you can eat it with anything & it comes in so many yummy flavors.

[Boourns]

Just like barbecue is the perfect food, cheesecake is the perfect dessert.

[suprefan]

Just like barbecue is the perfect food, cheesecake is the perfect dessert.

Yeah but we dont get stagecoach BBQ which sucks!! We need to petition for next years Coachella to have a BBQ cook off.

[Boourns]

Mmm, that will be nice. But there will be BBQ at Coachella, just not nearly as much of it. Well, just as long as what is there is great, I'm happy.

[Sexecutioner]

you know what i REALLY wish coachella would do regarding the set times?

ill accept the late notice if they would at least put it in a nice format. Seriously, the one they release is so hard to read. Its all about the excel spreadsheet that somebody makes each year. Last year there were some imitations, but the one that goes left to right (not up and down) is the shit!!

[suprefan]

THE RETURN OF COACHOOSER!!!!

[Sexecutioner]

THE RETURN OF COACHOOSER!!!!

haaha, sorry gv, but coachooser blows.

[Boourns]

Why do people need any kind of spreadsheet anyway? All you need to know is where bands are playing, and at what time. Or maybe I'm the only one smart enough to not need such visuals.

"Arcade Fire on the main stage at 7:30pm? I don't know what to do! I need a graph!"

[psychic friend]

haaha, sorry gv, but coachooser blows.

you havent seen what the grid looks like yet shmuck. wait till the times come out then you can bag on it.

[Boourns]

The Coachooser will feature exclusive Thomas Kinkade artwork.

[fasttrack]

haha. maybe goldenvoice just wants to give people something to bitch about. if people stopped complaining about who is/isn't playing, they might have released the set times by now.

p.s.
i'm not serious by the way.

[rkawar]

you havent seen what the grid looks like yet shmuck. wait till the times come out then you can bag on it.
why dont you fucking release the set times so that people who are planning on leaving around the set times can do it.

honestly if there isn't some huge addition on that list of times, coachella and GV may have completely lost my respect. i agree with the above statement about coachella fans and members thinking of themselves too highly. Despite the few cool people who are open and joke around and yadda yadda, this is a board where people go back and forth bashing on each other, and if this is any indication of what to expect from this festival, see you guys at lolla.

[suprefan]

, and if this is any indication of what to expect from this festival, see you guys at lolla.

Good riddance.

[shoegazer76]

Why does everbody have such a bug up their ass about the schedule? Its over a week away! You assholes are like little kids that can't wait for Christmas & wanna sneak around the house to find out what yr gettin. Chill the fuck out!

[suprefan]

Why does everbody have such a bug up their ass about the schedule? Its over a week away! You assholes are like little kids that can't wait for Christmas & wanna sneak around the house to find out what yr gettin. Chill the fuck out!

Hahahahahah yeah its true. I hope they release them on Thursday night to piss all the whiners off.

[fasttrack]

hahaha. more like, no schedule at all. surprise assholes! your favorite band is playing right now!

[suprefan]

Rage at noon would be awesome.

[psychic friend]

why dont you fucking release the set times

Because they are not fucking done yet.

[bballarl]

Because they are not fucking done yet.

PWND.

[rage patton]

Because they are not fucking done yet.

Hahaha. That made me laugh.

[darthlaker]

Because they are not fucking done yet.


See i told you so. And PF ignore the post of these idiots talking crap if i ever met you @ coachella i'd buy you a beer, water or nice chinese plate (my favorate @ coachella... mmmmm always hits the spot :)

[psychic friend]

would you buy me an $8 beer though?

[bballarl]

That's too much. $5 max.

[bballarl]

PS WHY THE FUCK IS WATER $2 WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS IS THE KENTUCKY DERBY IM NOT NICK LACHEY THESE AREN'T MINT FUCKING JULEPS I CANT AFFORD THIS SHIT FUCK THIS

[darthlaker]

you remembered that. you're good. even if it was a laker price @ $10 i would :)

[darthlaker]

PS WHY THE FUCK IS WATER $2 WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS IS THE KENTUCKY DERBY IM NOT NICK LACHEY THESE AREN'T MINT FUCKING JULEPS I CANT AFFORD THIS SHIT FUCK THIS!!!

dude seriously get a JOB!!!

[psychic friend]

you remembered that. you're good.

yes, yes i am. im a punkrocker yes i am.

[MarkO]

i have nightmares about that. i worry

Bonnaroo went from a damn hippie fest to a top class festival in <5yrs. They own their festival site and get bands just as big as Coachella.

Don't be so cocky. Lolla went to shit tres fast .......

[psychic friend]

dont make fun of my anxiety. :(

[bballarl]

Yeah, don't be so cocky.

[rage patton]

yes, yes i am. im a punkrocker yes i am.

PF likes Teddybears.

[psychic friend]

http://www.mille-soeren.dk/07_Clipart_JPG_GIF/02_dyr_funny/to_glade_teddybears_hug.gif

[suprefan]

Bonnaroo went from a damn hippie fest to a top class festival in <5yrs. They own their festival site and get bands just as big as Coachella.

Don't be so cocky. Lolla went to shit tres fast .......

They had to start booking bands like the ones that play Coachella so they could compete ya know. They recognized that if it was only jam bands and whatnot that it was not going to stay as successful as it is. They needed to attract another demographic to the festival so they got Radiohead and everyone else to join and thats that. You know Coachella responded to this by making a completely different festival thats called Stagecoach. Blame Perry for making Lolla go into the pits so fast.

[bballarl]

Coachella did Stagecoach so the dude wouldn't sell the Polo Grounds. According to the article from URB. Or rather, so it was financially viable for the owner to not sell the Polo Grounds to developers.

[Boourns]

What happens if Stagecoach flops this year? Will they try again next year?

[psychic friend]

what happened when coachella flopped in 99.

[Boourns]

It came back 18 months later, but was one day instead of two.

[psychic friend]

yep, it grew and grew

[wisconsinboozer]

yep, it grew and grew
and now look what it amounted to

[psychic friend]

super bestest fun

[darthlaker]

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/7656/huggingbearsib3.jpg

that 4 u

[wisconsinboozer]

never been to coachella so ill let you know if i agree on the 30th, im sure its the bestest though

[suprefan]

Coachella did Stagecoach so the dude wouldn't sell the Polo Grounds. According to the article from URB. Or rather, so it was financially viable for the owner to not sell the Polo Grounds to developers.

Yeah I know, but it was still a response any way you look at it. To keep it at the polo grounds, to present a completely different genre of music in the same model as Coachella, to show other festivals that they better keep improving or else.

[MarkO]

dont make fun of my anxiety. :(

I'm not. I've just seen many good things in many areas of life go to shit when there was no reason.

[MarkO]

.......... They needed to attract another demographic to the festival so they got Radiohead and everyone else to join and thats that. You know Coachella responded to this by making a completely different festival thats called Stagecoach. Blame Perry for making Lolla go into the pits so fast.

Maybe I missed the /sarcasm tags but I fail to see how Stagecoach is any sort of a response to 'Roo going mainstream.

I'm pretty open minded when it comes to music yet I honestly couldn't tell you the name of any artist playing at Stagecoach.

[Agent Orange]

How gives a fuck about the set times!!!!!!!! Isn't the whole point of coachella to experience something new???

[rage patton]

Maybe I missed the /sarcasm tags but I fail to see how Stagecoach is any sort of a response to 'Roo going mainstream.

I'm pretty open minded when it comes to music yet I honestly couldn't tell you the name of any artist playing at Stagecoach.

Willie Nelson? Neko Case?

[Sexecutioner]

you havent seen what the grid looks like yet shmuck. wait till the times come out then you can bag on it.

if its not just like the excel spreadsheet then it sucks!

jk, you know i love ya. ;)


but...will i love the coachooser???? i hope so!

[psychic friend]

ya so wait and see .... :)

[sydaud]

K-Mart...Cincinnati, Ohio...set-times...I'm an excellent driver...15 minutes to Judge Wapner....set-times.....Gotta get my boxer shorts at K-Mart.....set-times....QANTAS never crashed.....set-times.........

[Boourns]

GARTH BROOKS @ STAGECOACH 2012

[Alchemy]

I love the new, "Fuck this, I'm going to Lollapalooza!" arguement. As if nobody will gladly take their place for Coachella if Dani doesn't release the set times.

[MarkO]

How gives a fuck about the set times!!!!!!!! Isn't the whole point of coachella to experience something new???

Yes & No. There are bands at Coachella that I have tapes of, never mind cd's yet I never had the opportunity to see live. While it will be cool to see some new artists; I'm not coughing up a $1K+ for this just to 'experience something new'. Therefore, set times are important and there is no good reason why they are not released at this point.

[psychic friend]

there is no good reason why they are not released at this point.

they are not done yet. maybe they are not done because of all the surprise stuff. maybe the bands are fighting over who plays against who. maybe there are reasons you dont know or understand about because you dont work on it personally.

[rage patton]

Yes & No. There are bands at Coachella that I have tapes of, never mind cd's yet I never had the opportunity to see live. While it will be cool to see some new artists; I'm not coughing up a $1K+ for this just to 'experience something new'. Therefore, set times are important and there is no good reason why they are not released at this point.

Perhaps their IS a good reason set times aren't posted.
Argh... I want the set times now though.

Edit: ^^^^^ See... their IS a good reason set times havent been posted yet. I hope there are special surprises :) I also hope Rage and Infected Mushroom don't conflict. That would make me a sad panda if they do.

[Shyeviolett]

maybe they are not done because of all the surprise stuff.

*fingers crossed*

[djfk1]

I hate math. Is there a Coachella Cliff Notes available?

[ARBJORK]

I would think the set times were set when the contracts were signed, but maybe they do things differently at Golden Voice. "When you get to Indio, we'll let you know what time you go on."

i think that thing about set times is a little bit more complicated

[Sexecutioner]

i had a dream last night that set times were released. but then i went online to check them out and i couldnt find them, then i finally found them, but they were in some weird circular format that i couldnt really figure out. man did that suck. i guess it was more of a nightmare.